I do 37/34 lbs in my v7 blade 98 16x19. I need the utmost comfortable setup for my ailing arm. HG 1.25/GW 1.22 felt great. When my arm got worse I tried HGS 1.25/GW1.22 and HG1.20/GW1.22 at similar tensions and felt great, HGS being tad bit softer but HG providing a more crisp connected/controlled feel that gives the confidence to swing out. @Booger How would you compare HG or HGS to diadem solstice power in terms of power/comfort/feel/tension maintenance/durability?
Hybrid with Hyper g soft?
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Booger
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I would say they're close enough to try both. The biggest difference I notice is that Solstice feels more aggressively shaped and has more grab to it. Overall more spin.
HGS might feel a tad bit softer at lower tensions (similar to solstice black), but after that you're splitting hairs. Maintenance sucks on all of them.
Juggernauts
Rookie
Is HGS 18 soft on arm? Is it a powerful poly? I plan to hybrid with soft multi.
I find it to be very muted. It seems to absorb the shock of impact. I would not consider it to be powerful but decent pop. It can be strung at low tension because it doesn't get much more powerful with lower tension like most strings do. Most of the other polys I've used are too powerful below 52 pounds. This is fine in the upper 40s which makes it a softer alternative.
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I've never tried HGS at 18 gauge only 17 and 16L. 17 is noticeably softer than 16L.
Juggernauts
Rookie
I plan HGS 18 on main with 44-45 lbs and a choice of cross :
1. Babolat spiraltek 17
2. Gosen OG-Spin 16
Which one will be better?
I've not tried those strings. I did try OGSM as a cross and it badly and quickly notched HGS 17. I made the mistake of stringing the OGSM at higher tension by a couple pounds than the HGS. That probably worsened the notching.
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Juggernauts
Rookie
So what kinds of string characteristic that are safe for HGS ? I have never used a poly because of its stiffness (I have minor tricep issue)
Maybe just try a full bed at 44-45 lbs first and see if you like and can tolerate the HGS on its own. If you like the way it plays but still want softer, you can look to hybrid. Personally I think if 18 gauge at 44 lbs is too stiff for your arm, you should drop poly and go to a high quality, soft multifilament.
I'm using Triax now as the cross and it works well but I'm stringing at a bit higher tension. Also Triax is pricey. If you want to string at low tension, I think a full bed of HGS is the thing to try first. Also a full bed of Triax gives you much of the attractiveness of the poly control, spin while being low impact on the arm. It does sound a bit funny on impact though.
Juggernauts
Rookie
From what I read on TWU forum, cross tension with multi / syn gut should be higher by 1-2 lbs, shouldn't it?
Yes. That sounds right in general with most I've tried. With OGSM though, I found that approach too stiff. I'd match the poly or even go lower 1 or 2 lbs. I haven't found the qualities so many profess for OGSM in these chats. To me, you get what you pay for with it. It does seem quite durable though.
what do you see as benefit to soft copoly cross with HGS ? Is it about going softer or more snapback or power or ??
versus full bead of HGS that is.
Holdfast44ID
Semi-Pro
I'm testing out HGS in the mains with Cream in the crosses. I like it on everything so far. Comfortable with excellent spin, control, power with some added depth and shots dip in near the baseline, very good kick and pace on serves. It was only my first time trying this combo but so far so good. I strung at 52/52 in a Pure Aero. Might play with tension as needed. I have some Triax sets (and like it) but think Cream might be a better cross to go with HGS.
at similar gauge, should I consider GW as softer or firmer than HGS ? Wondering if I should string it as cross at same tension of HGS or lower. I string 17g HGS on main around 48-50 lbs.
ive actually never tried HGS full bed but I just automatically string crosses 2-3 lbs lower to promote snapback/more elastic feeling string bed. Note: I use 37/34 lbs. I think 50/47 would be a good starting point if youre scared of trampoline string bed but still want something soft. The thing with low(er) tension string beds is to keep in mind that ball will launch much more easily off your string bed so you can’t hit as flat if you hit hard BUT if you apply enough spin, the ball will stay in and EXPLODE off the court
Thanks for the suggestions. I have a tough time altering my game to more trampoline at low tension. Deader polys are helpful in that way.
Juggernauts
Rookie
I put HGS 18 on cross at 45 with Babolat Spiraltek 17 on main at 48. It is quite soft on my arm. However, the main snapped after 5 hours 
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I expect it will last at least 10 hours since I am not a hard hitter or heavy spinner. Since HGS at cross is still good, can I just change the main string? Thanks for advice.
. I expect it will last at least 10 hours since I am not a hard hitter or heavy spinner. Since HGS at cross is still good, can I just change the main string? Thanks for advice.
I’m down to 32/30 lbs HG 1.25/GW 1.22 in my v7 blade 98 16x19 and it feels wonderful. The main problem with low tension is when you’re late getting your racquet into position, the ball instantly sails way way out. Low tension is best suited for control oriented polys that have good tension maintenance. HG fits the bill for me.
Juggernauts
Rookie
Thanks for the advice.
Since, I won't change the string in one or two days, should I also cut the cross to prevent the racket from deforming ?
yes, always cut string so it doesn’t put unnecessary stress on frame.
I played with Hyper g Soft 16 mains/Diadem Flash 16L crosses at 50# today in my ProKennex Q+5 Pro for 1.5 hours. This is a nice soft, spinny setup, indistinguishable from Regular Hyper G 16/Diadem Flash 16L hybrid in my other racquet (Pro Kennex Ki 5 315). Perfect blend of power, control and spin for me.
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
I like the HGS/GW setup. Much softer than HG FB. Retains great qualities of HG.
g4driver
Legend
PPC 1.40'mm because it is thicker than every other multi made. Girth counts
1.40mm >! 1.35mm > 1.30mm multi
PPC if you want the most durable multi
WacTennis2017
Rookie
PPC 1.40'mm because it is thicker than every other multi made. Girth counts
1.40mm >! 1.35mm > 1.30mm multi
PPC if you want the most durable multi
Thanks! I am still battling some tennis elbow so might try PPC mains, GW crosses (maybe even 18 gauge GW…..not sure)
Right now using X1 mains , GW crosses
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
PPC 1.40'mm because it is thicker than every other multi made. Girth counts
1.40mm >! 1.35mm > 1.30mm multi
PPC if you want the most durable multi
Prince Premier Control? Does a poly main stick to PPC crosses or does it slide?
g4driver
Legend
slick smooth polys will slide more easily. edged, square, 5 or 6-sided polys or rough polys will bite and lock more quickly.
daman sidhu
Rookie
+1, I have the same setup in my VCore 95 at 55/45. The HyperG Soft goes very well with VS Gut mains.
g4driver
Legend
Element works like GW.
MSRP packs: $18 Element vs $10 GW
MSRP reels: $281 Element vs $134 GW
Now consider an Element Reel at a non-MSRP Price $164 per reel vs GhostWire MSRP Price of $134. Can you get GW cheaper? Yep if you buy four reels of strings from Tier One/ year, their reels drop to $65 per reel and $4.60 per pack. That is an outstanding deal for people like me and I am grateful to Tier One for offering that price.
98%+ frames I string are 16Mx19/20X between 95 to 100 square inches. I get some rare one-off frames like a 135 Weed, 115 Head Ti S6, 120 Wilson Cizero frames, and more in the 105 to 110 rangee. When I am using Ghostwire or Head Velocity as a cross, 16.5 feet work for pretty much every sub-104-inch 16x19/20 frame I string.
For the 104-plus inch 16x19/20 and 18x20 frames, I just grab half a pack of GW, saving my GW 1.27 and 1.22mm reels for only crosses. It is just a way for me to string quickly without my standard cross measurement of three wingspans of 5.5 feet. (3 of my wingspans @5.5 feet each = 16.5 feet of crosses). When I cut a pack of 40' string in half, I don't come up short on an 18x20. I am often short on time trying to knock out 3 to 4 frames in a short window, and I don't want to come up short on a cross, and half packs erase that possibility.
660 feet of string in the Luxilion and GW reels / 16.5 feet = 40 sets of crosses
If you can feel the difference between Element and GW, more power to you. I don't see the value of Element at the extra price. Even when I get 40 sets of crosses out of an Element Reel at $164 per reel which drops the price of those 16.5' lengths to $4.10 per Element cross, vs $3.35 MSRP per GW cross. Furthermore, my arm tells me Ghostwire 1.22mm holds tension better than Element 1.25mm
@TierOneSportsOfficial could probably give you more data on stiffness and tension loss of Ghostwire vs Element
And finally, IMO, GW also looks much better in a hybrid with multiple colors. Black, white and gray strings blend with other mains well. Element comes in green and dark burnt orange.
my .02, try both Element 1.25mm and GW 1.22 mm as a cross with HGS and pick what you prefer. If you think Element is better, just use it. I've had HGS 1.25mm/ GW 1.22mm in my frames since the TW HGS playtest ended.
So the answer probably , after all this financial comparison , is yes it can be a good , right? I can find way better price in element so its my go to cross string, i m struggling with my main.After 2 weeks i ll come back to review this combo!
g4driver
Legend
@billfoc
If Element and Ghostwire cost me the same per reel, same per cross string, I would still pick GW as my cross. Everyone is different so I tell players to pick what they like. $4.10 per Element cross is a good deal, but I didn't find it to be any better than GW and I honestly think GW holds tension better at a lower cost.
If Element and Ghostwire cost me the same per reel, same per cross string, I would still pick GW as my cross. Everyone is different so I tell players to pick what they like. $4.10 per Element cross is a good deal, but I didn't find it to be any better than GW and I honestly think GW holds tension better at a lower cost.
Snipe
Rookie
Reviving an old thread, but is the Tier One 4 spool / $65 per spool deal still at thing? If so, how do you get that?
g4driver
Legend
Possibly. But this coupon code is good for orders place by April 21 tomorrow for 25% off
Europe2023
Will send you a PM
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
Still using VS mains/HGS crosses 3 years later at 47/44lbs on the Pure Strike Tour.
