I could see Sinner getting double digit slams. If he doesn't get injured

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
At this point it appears Djokovic will hold off to pass the mantle to his son. The next little 3 will be the fedalovic kids. :p

Stefan looking good with his Rafa forehand finish at an early age - will win RG 2034 :D

Have not heard anything about Leo yet. Perhaps he prefers skiing and Lindt chocolate, just like daddy?
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
More talented than Alcaraz?! LOOOOOOOL. I get the annoyance of coverage, but c’mon. Carlos is the real deal.

They're both talented, but I don't think either is the "real deal" until (1) winning a Slam and/or (2) taking out Novak or Rafa during a deep Slam run.

If we're merely talking about whether they're going to be great tour players who are in the Top 10, make some nice Slam runs, win some big non-Slam tourneys, then, yeah, they're already the "real deal." But, if we're predicting multiple Slams for them, then neither has really shown they're the "real deal." We're talking about a whole different level than simply being "very good."
 

Aabye5

G.O.A.T.
They're both talented, but I don't think either is the "real deal" until (1) winning a Slam and/or (2) taking out Novak or Rafa during a deep Slam run.

If we're merely talking about whether they're going to be great tour players who are in the Top 10, make some nice Slam runs, win some big non-Slam tourneys, then, yeah, they're already the "real deal." But, if we're predicting multiple Slams for them, then neither has really shown they're the "real deal." We're talking about a whole different level than simply being "very good."

Do you put everyone in this category, except for Medvedev?
 
Stefan looking good with his Rafa forehand finish at an early age - will win RG 2034 :D

Have not heard anything about Leo yet. Perhaps he prefers skiing and Lindt chocolate, just like daddy?
.. and last heard a while ago the Agassi kids were preferring baseball. Not sure about Sampras, his wife was an actor, so that's a different route.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
Do you think all young players are not "the real deal" until they either beat Nadal/Djokovic or win a Slam?

It's harsh, but essentially. The Big 3 era is just so odd. Generations used to overlap, bleed into each other in terms both generations playing championship level tennis at the same time (e.g., Agassi, Courier, Sampras winning Slams while Becker,Lendl, Edberg were still winning Slams), or at least the younger generation announcing themselves before winning a Slam and the other generation retiring - e.g., Fed beating Sampras at Wimbledon in 2001, Sampras going on to win a Slam after that (showing he was still champion caliber when Fed beat him), and then Fed winning his first Slam in 2003 after Sampras had retired. Players have almost always served notice of potential ATG status in these ways.

Again, if we're just surmising that they're going to be "great" players and have very successful careers, maybe including a Slam or two (or maybe not), then it's probably already fair to say they are "the real deal." But, in the context people are talking about Sinner and Alcaraz - they're going to win 5, 6, 8 or "double digit" Slams and become ATGs, then yeah, I expect more to pronounce them the "real deal."
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
Anyone can get double-digit slams, after Djokovic and Nadal retire.

Anyone even marginally better than the other top 10 clowns can dominate by winning 3 slams per year.
 
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