All this Just adds to djokovic legacy. Strange how fedal have remerged now djokovic struggling. Couldnt be that last three years fjokovic mobed the vame on to heughts neither nafal or federer could match? Does make one wonder......
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
He's not awful these days, he's making many finals and on hc again! He hasn't done that in a few years.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Not from what I saw. He still mostly relied on the high fh to Fed's bh and didn't really have a solid go-to plan B. If he continues to go to Fed's bh primarily he will be thrashed. He has to try to go to Fed's fh more, especially out wide to Fed's fh but will that be enough?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
It does nothing of the sort. The only thing which will add to Djokovic's legacy is winning more slams.
federer wins this ,I m very sure of it.His level is clearly higher than nadals..and I doubt he ll be "tired" ,he wasn t in AO after he player 2 setters and another one in the final.He has a day of rest ,and I don t think the ralies in the kyrgios match were that grueling for him.I think he s gonna start quick like he did all week take an early advantage and build his win on that ,IW style.
Well is federer winning as its a weak era?
This fascinating. If i were nadals coach id be telling him steeer clear of that forehand at all costs
Jaitock1991
Hall of Fame
Couldn't agree more. This is Rafa's to lose, and to me it feels like the pkaying conditions will favour him a lot more than in their last meetings too.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Huh? The only thing which matters at the end of the day are achievements and in particular things like slam count, weeks @ #1, YE #1, etc. If Djokovic wants to expand his legacy he has to win more slams.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Good thing you're not Nadal's coach then. Nadal was picking at Fed's bh at the AO and IW and it didn't work. He needs to come up with a different game plan.
Not accusing u of anything but for three years people were saying djokovix was winning because its a weak era. So im just wondering if this weak era still apllies?
He wasnt. He was much more even in his attack. Will be interestijg to see what he does.
pame
Hall of Fame
Your source for this?
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
It has been a weak era since 2014. Djokovic took advantage during that time and now Federer is but the bottom line is at the end of the day slams make a tennis legacy. It doesn't matter how they are won. Every era has its pros and cons.
Can't agree at all. Nadal is making head court finals. Nadal would have to be the favourite going into the final given that the court very much favours Nadal over Federer
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Well, Brad Gilbert disagrees. This is what Gilbert said Nadal needs to do to try and beat Federer:
https://twitter.com/bgtennisnation/status/848204177151057921
AngryBirds
Semi-Pro
Attacking Fed's forehand will only make it worse. Fed's backhand is prone to breaking down much more han his forehand. Sure, his backhand was on fire in their last two matches, but he can't hit his backhand like that every time. We saw how Berdych and Kyrgios attacking Fed's backhand to great success. Nadal could do that a lot better than those guys.
Exactly this. I mean, since when does the own struggling ADD to someone’s legacy? When Federer (or to a lesser extent Nadal) has more Slams than Djokovic and doesn’t struggle at 35 but rather dominates the field, then he is superior. If we didn’t know it better, we would have to think Djokovic is the far older man if we consider an argument like the one from DrLexus.
Furthermore, I don’t understand those fans who believe legacy only has to do with a mythical “peak”. With the same logic Cilic fans could say he is GOAT because nobody could beat him during his peak 2014 US Open run, and Djokovic only could shine when this run was over.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
This year it's entirely possible and that is novel. It would be three before hitting clay and that, I would presume, is novel as well.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
I'm not sure I agree with that these days. You need to get Federer out wide on his fh. Let's see what Nadal comes up with.
The_18th_Slam
Hall of Fame
You think Nadal is making a peace offering of goat meat to the GOAT?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Yes it is still a weak era. The fact that two 30+ year olds are the only relevant players this season so far is pure evidence of that.
No younger players stepping up also points to this being a weak era.
Gazelle
G.O.A.T.
Wawrinka has also been relevant this season, don't forget him.
Yes, the peak argument is weak. A player's entire career is what matters. Pre-prime and post-prime years are just as important as prime years if they generate significant results. It is a credit to a player to maintain a level closer to their prime than others are capable of in their 30s, as Federer seems to be doing unlike anyone since Jimmy Connors.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Three 30+ year olds being more relevant than any young gun is already ridiculous.
Gazelle
G.O.A.T.
Bender
G.O.A.T.
Called it.
You were right. It was quick
D
Deleted member 21996
Guest
damn you are a clueless loser....
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Lol.
Can you please start a thread about Roger not winning the 2017 CYGS? Because the opposite of what you say is guaranteed.
Sir Weed
Hall of Fame
Hi.
TheMaestro1990
Hall of Fame
So... how did it work out for you "this time"?
Charlemagne
Hall of Fame
Ye of so little faith...Fed has no chance. I wish it were otherwise, but I have to be realistic
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