I'm not a Fed Lover but You Have to Admit

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kenshireen

Professional
that making 23 consecutive semis in the GS is amazing.
Think of all the matches he had to win over this span... You would think that over the past 6 years on the GS that he would have an "off" day (or an injury)or possibly one of his opponents would have an "amazing" day. I don't think anyone will ever reach 23 consecutive GS and furthermore he's still counting..

To me the most durable, consistent tennis player of all time...and the most fluid
 
MichaelChang

MichaelChang

Hall of Fame
yeah I mean it is like every time a slam starts, you could just start Federer directly from the semi and ignore everyone in his quarter.

and 18 of the last 19 slam finals, which is even more scary. it's like whoever in Federer's half, can pretty much forget about getting into the final.
 
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raiden031

Legend
kenshireen said:
that making 23 consecutive semis in the GS is amazing.
Think of all the matches he had to win over this span... You would think that over the past 6 years on the GS that he would have an "off" day (or an injury)or possibly one of his opponents would have an "amazing" day. I don't think anyone will ever reach 23 consecutive GS and furthermore he's still counting..

To me the most durable, consistent tennis player of all time...and the most fluid
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Him losing to Djoker in AO '08, or going into 5-setters with guys like Tipsarevic and Haas are his 'off' days.
 
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BTURNER

Legend
Not taking away from Fed at all and recognizing that the men's tour and womens were very different in depth but just a reminder Evert: 52-56 lifetime including a stretch of 48 of 49 entered. here's what consistency looks like: 71,72,72,73,73,73,74,74,74,74,75,75,75,76,76,77,77,78,78,79,79
79,80,80,80,81,81,81,81,82,82,82,82,83,OOPS JORDAN 4TH RD,83,84,84 84,84,85,85,85,85,86,86,86,87,87,OOPS McNEIL QF,88,OOPS SANCHEZ 3RD RD
88,88,89,OOPS GARRISON QF. What is astounding is those early 'learning' immature years when you get your hard knocks, before becoming number one with three of four slams are on your bad surface.
 
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kenshireen

Professional
BTURNER said:
Not taking away from Fed at all and recognizing that the men's tour and womens were very different in depth but just a reminder Evert: 52-56 lifetime including a stretch of 48 of 49 entered. here's what consistency looks like: 71,72,72,73,73,73,74,74,74,74,75,75,75,76,76,77,77,78,78,79,79
79,80,80,80,81,81,81,81,82,82,82,82,83,OOPS JORDAN 4TH RD,83,84,84 84,84,85,85,85,85,86,86,86,87,87,OOPS McNEIL QF,88,OOPS SANCHEZ 3RD RD
88,88,89,OOPS GARRISON QF. What is astounding is those early 'learning' immature years when you get your hard knocks, before becoming number one with three of four slams are on your bad surface.
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She reached 48 out of 49 semis.... You are correct... All I remember from the 70's and 80's are her and Martina..
When did Court win her 24 GS
 
hoodjem

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
Does anyone know Fed's winning percentage in majors?

I just heard on ESPN that Fed won his first Wimbledon in his 17th entry into a major. Is this true? So how many has he entered in total?

Where's he at now?
 
hoodjem

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
raiden031 said:
37%. That is ridiculous considering most players have a 0% percentage!
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Yes, I agree. Look at the current crop of players. (To overlook Nadal for the moment), who else has even one slam win?

Djokovic, del Potro, and Roddick. (Is JC Ferrero still playing?)

Hewitt has two. Did I forget anyone?
 
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hoodjem

hoodjem

G.O.A.T.
I believe that this is a truly impressive number: 22 finals/43 entries = 51%

He gets to the finals of over half of the slams he has ever entered!
 
pc1

pc1

G.O.A.T.
I watched the final today and Murray was a nervous wreck. I know he has a lot of pressure but I'm beginning to wonder about this man's mental approach to the game.

Only Nadal seems to come in with the attitude that he should win against Federer and his body language shows it. Murray's body language was that he was upset and this no doubt was something Federer fed on. No pun intended.

With Nadal injured, it would seem that Federer has an excellent chance to win the French.
 
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DunlopMax200G

Rookie
His GS tally is going to be near impossible to break. His consecutive semis record will never ever be broken. It is not humanly possible to be healthy and in peak performance for almost six years in a row.
 
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Ossric

Semi-Pro
DunlopMax200G said:
. It is not humanly possible to be healthy and in peak performance for almost six years in a row.
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Except...he did it...so it's possible.

This never crap is kinda sad.

I love Federer. He's my favorite player. But records are made to be broken. It wont' be any time soon, but one day his records will be broken.
 
Ambivalent

Ambivalent

Hall of Fame
BTURNER said:
Not taking away from Fed at all and recognizing that the men's tour and womens were very different in depth but just a reminder Evert: 52-56 lifetime including a stretch of 48 of 49 entered. here's what consistency looks like: 71,72,72,73,73,73,74,74,74,74,75,75,75,76,76,77,77,78,78,79,79
79,80,80,80,81,81,81,81,82,82,82,82,83,OOPS JORDAN 4TH RD,83,84,84 84,84,85,85,85,85,86,86,86,87,87,OOPS McNEIL QF,88,OOPS SANCHEZ 3RD RD
88,88,89,OOPS GARRISON QF. What is astounding is those early 'learning' immature years when you get your hard knocks, before becoming number one with three of four slams are on your bad surface.
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Not to take credit away from women, but the WTA is completely different from the ATP. Clijster's win at the USO and Henin's final appearance at the AO from prolonged retirements tells you that much.
 
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joeri888

G.O.A.T.
hoodjem said:
Yes, I agree. Look at the current crop of players. (To overlook Nadal for the moment), who else has even one slam win?

Djokovic, del Potro, and Roddick. (Is JC Ferrero still playing?)

Hewitt has two. Did I forget anyone?
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Moya. 10 chars
 
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joeri888

G.O.A.T.
Ossric said:
Except...he did it...so it's possible.

This never crap is kinda sad.

I love Federer. He's my favorite player. But records are made to be broken. It wont' be any time soon, but one day his records will be broken.
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"records are meant to be broken" is the same crap. If in the past 100 years there wasn't one who made so many Slam semis, why will there be in the next 100 years? And who says tennis is still played in 100 years.
 
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newmark401

Professional
BTURNER said:
Not taking away from Fed at all and recognizing that the men's tour and womens were very different in depth but just a reminder Evert: 52-56 lifetime including a stretch of 48 of 49 entered. here's what consistency looks like: 71,72,72,73,73,73,74,74,74,74,75,75,75,76,76,77,77,78,78,79,79
79,80,80,80,81,81,81,81,82,82,82,82,83,OOPS JORDAN 4TH RD,83,84,84 84,84,85,85,85,85,86,86,86,87,87,OOPS McNEIL QF,88,OOPS SANCHEZ 3RD RD
88,88,89,OOPS GARRISON QF. What is astounding is those early 'learning' immature years when you get your hard knocks, before becoming number one with three of four slams are on your bad surface.
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Chris Evert's sustained level of consistency is amazing, but she herself has said that she had played in a lot of tournaments even before she took part in her first major, the 1971 US Open. She had an impressive streak for a 16-year-old even before she lost to Billie Jean King in the semi-finals of Forest Hills that year.
 
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OrangeOne

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joeri888 said:
"records are meant to be broken" is the same crap. If in the past 100 years there wasn't one who made so many Slam semis, why will there be in the next 100 years? And who says tennis is still played in 100 years.
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^^Exactly what i was going to say.

Records are records. They are not 'made to be broken'.
 
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aprilfool

Guest
Ossric said:
Except...he did it...so it's possible.

This never crap is kinda sad.

I love Federer. He's my favorite player. But records are made to be broken. It wont' be any time soon, but one day his records will be broken.
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Has anyone topped Michelangelo?
 
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dh003i

Legend
The idea that records are "made to be broken" is silly. They just are. Given enough time, it is very likely that every record will eventually be broken, no matter how unlikely it may seem over any given time period. It is just a matter of probability.

If you flip a coin enough times, eventually you'll flip 1,000; 10,000; 100,000 heads in a row.
 
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Turbo

New User
dh003i said:
The idea that records are "made to be broken" is silly. They just are. Given enough time, it is very likely that every record will eventually be broken, no matter how unlikely it may seem over any given time period. It is just a matter of probability.

If you flip a coin enough times, eventually you'll flip 1,000; 10,000; 100,000 heads in a row.
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Yeah, but you're assuming that whoever wins is decided on randomness. And don't forget that we have no idea how much longer tennis is played, so maybe in 10,000 years someone will break it - but then again maybe only 100,000 will exist in the world. It's certainly possible, but we have no idea how probable.

Of every professional tennis player that will ever exist, there will be one that is better than everyone else. Why couldn't it be someone now? Like Federer?
 
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bruce38

Banned
BTURNER said:
Not taking away from Fed at all and recognizing that the men's tour and womens were very different in depth but just a reminder Evert: 52-56 lifetime including a stretch of 48 of 49 entered. here's what consistency looks like: 71,72,72,73,73,73,74,74,74,74,75,75,75,76,76,77,77,78,78,79,79
79,80,80,80,81,81,81,81,82,82,82,82,83,OOPS JORDAN 4TH RD,83,84,84 84,84,85,85,85,85,86,86,86,87,87,OOPS McNEIL QF,88,OOPS SANCHEZ 3RD RD
88,88,89,OOPS GARRISON QF. What is astounding is those early 'learning' immature years when you get your hard knocks, before becoming number one with three of four slams are on your bad surface.
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Evert didn't play every slam consecutively. Fed did. That's a huge difference.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Why do people keep on comparing atp to wta, it's not exactly apple to apple.

Women plays only 3 set formats while the men plays 5. Plus, tennis in the oldies are physically less stressful than today. This is where it separate the men and the boy. So please, don't compare Federer to a wuss WTA.
 
borg number one

borg number one

Legend
Yes, the sf streak is amazing consistency. The guy just doesn't give away bad losses easily, which also is much like Borg was.

I'll throw Borg in the mix here. He played 27 GS tourneys and made the finals of 16 of them.

So, his 27 GS tourneys ever played involved 1 AO, then lots of Wimbledon, FO, and US Open tourneys. He made 6 FO finals, 6 Wimbledon finals, and 4 US Open finals during an abbreviated career. That's "not bad" for the "big 3" slams during his era.

That's 59.2% for Borg vs. 51% for Federer as far as GS finals percentage. Both are very impressive numbers and likely the two highest percentages ever.

Would his % have gone down by 26? by 27? 28 or 30? Who knows? Maybe, maybe not. If you do the math, with just a few more years of play, say 12 more GS tourneys over 4 more years, if he made 4 of 12 finals during yearsb26-30, he would have ended up with the same % as Federer. 51%.
 
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Spider

Hall of Fame
Yeah, this is one of the greatest records which will last for a very long time. His consistency at the highest level is incredible, and people calling him the greatest player of all time have every right to do so with stats like most slam titles, record consecutive weeks at number one, career slam, this one, most slam finals in a row, and many more other records.
 
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Anaconda

Hall of Fame
hoodjem said:
Yes, I agree. Look at the current crop of players. (To overlook Nadal for the moment), who else has even one slam win?

Djokovic, del Potro, and Roddick. (Is JC Ferrero still playing?)

Hewitt has two. Did I forget anyone?
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Gaudio. 10 char
 
Cup8489

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
something else i just noticed: Sampras has a record for winning 8 consecutive grand slam finals, which remains unbroken. Federer came within 1 win of tying this record, but was stopped by Nadal in the 2006 French Open final. he'd won his first 7 major finals, without a single loss to that point in a Final.
 
Cantankersore

Cantankersore

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Cup8489 said:
something else i just noticed: Sampras has a record for winning 8 consecutive grand slam finals, which remains unbroken. Federer came within 1 win of tying this record, but was stopped by Nadal in the 2006 French Open final. he'd won his first 7 major finals, without a single loss to that point in a Final.
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I don't really see how that is the same sort of record. I mean, you could say Federer has him beat in consecutive non French Open wins, but that is still rubbish. Sampras couldn't make the finals of the FO (where he likely would have lost), so I don't see why people should say it is a greater accomplishment when Federer would have beaten his record by losing in the semifinals.
 
Cup8489

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
Cantankersore said:
I don't really see how that is the same sort of record. I mean, you could say Federer has him beat in consecutive non French Open wins, but that is still rubbish. Sampras couldn't make the finals of the FO (where he likely would have lost), so I don't see why people should say it is a greater accomplishment when Federer would have beaten his record by losing in the semifinals.
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8 straight slam wins is impressive. don't take away from it.
 
Antonio Puente

Antonio Puente

Hall of Fame
KAndersonFan said:
LOL, all right? I agree with your latter sentiment because it is hard to argue for the first two.
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Well, you know, there is a difference between being dominant, scaring the hell out of the opposition when you're on the court, and being consistent. Fed is more consistent than dominant. And I don't think you can be the most dominant player ever when the only other great player from your era owns you. But all of that aside, Fed is the most consistent player ever. His consistency is amazing.
 
FlamEnemY

FlamEnemY

Hall of Fame
Cup8489 said:
8 straight slam wins is impressive. don't take away from it.
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Agreed. It is indeed a great achievement. It just isn't as unique as it sometimes sounds to be.
8 straight slam wins implies that a player won the FO too, although I read your previous post and know you mean the finals.
 
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KAndersonFan

Semi-Pro
Antonio Puente said:
Well, you know, there is a difference between being dominant, scaring the hell out of the opposition when you're on the court, and being consistent. Fed is more consistent than dominant. And I don't think you can be the most dominant player ever when the only other great player from your era owns you. But all of that aside, Fed is the most consistent player ever. His consistency is amazing.
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:roll: So you're saying Fed's opponents in 2004 were scared of the all-mighty Federer and his one grand slam title? Yeah OK. Lleyton Hewitt, who was 7-5 against Federer in his career prior to their US Open final match in 2004, must have been terrified before he got double bagelled. Sure, he may have some Slam wins on reputation alone but what great player doesn't? And the "owned by another great player" thing is nonsense if you have twice as many grand slams as they do since they started winning majors.
 
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zagor

zagor

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Antonio Puente said:
Fed may not be the best or most dominant player ever, but he is the most consistent.
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Actually Fed is one of if not even the most dominant player ever.Whether he's best or not is up to a debate of course but his dominance over the game is almost unmatched,at his peak he was barely losing matches at all.
 
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