Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
Not sure what some people expect from a 19/20-year old sometimes, she's certainly not that bad on court
Jelena Ostapenko
- Thread starter Big_Dangerous
- Start date
Not sure what some people expect from a 19/20-year old sometimes, she's certainly not that bad on court
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
And it's WTA, drama is more than guaranteed there.
racket king
Banned
The sooner that Halep gets knocked out the better. Every time she hits the ball it's like listening to the love child of a gorilla and Sharapova....
racket king
Banned
Agreed. If it was one of the guys do that, people would be exclaiming 'What passion!' and 'What a will to win!'
She's exciting to watch.
bitcoinoperated
Professional
Is that just for this match? The problem with WTA is there are plenty of bashers that just clobber the ball fast and flat but this doesn't win consistently because not everyone can be 'on' very single match in every tournament. Even today she had 45 UEs.
That second serve too...
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, no kidding. Remember when Serena threatened that lines woman at the U.S. Open some years ago? And then remember Zvonareva was on the verge of getting double bageled by Stosur and she absolutely destroyed her racket?
noobforehand20
Professional
i dont like timea as a player but as a person and thats why i wanted her to win
sportmac
Hall of Fame
Racket smashes? I don't have any statistics but I'm going to go out on a limb and say the women can't hold a candle to the men when it comes to number of smashed rackets or the frequency.
The men have had some high drama moments. Few as egregious as Serena's but McEnroe calling an umpire, a dentist in his other life, a jerk, and calling another the pits of the world then swearing at the tournament referee can't be ignored, Troiki calling one an idiot, the worst ever, Nalbandian's kick, Krygios and Tomic going at it with fans...
sportmac
Hall of Fame
Why is that a problem with the WTA? It's how they play the game. I like it.
Big_Dangerous
Talk Tennis Guru
Umm okay, I wasn't talking about the ATP at all. I was just piggybacking off of the comment made by @Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil that "drama is more than guaranteed on the WTA tour." I certainly wasn't turning or trying to turn this into a Men vs. Women debate.. However, it seems as though that is clearly your intention. So I'll just say this: if you aren't here to talk about Jelena Ostapenko and/or the WTA tour, then please see your way out of this thread.
TheAssassin
Legend
She could become the first WTA player (to my knowledge) to win her first career title at a Slam. What an announcement of a youngster to the tennis world would that be!
ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
Is that her dog?
sportmac
Hall of Fame
Just piggy backing off you that drama ain't WTA exclusive. Thanks for the invitation but I'll stay. It's moving that you care though. I'm gettin' all misty.
sportmac
Hall of Fame
I haven't found anything on that either.
sportmac
Hall of Fame
oops, wrong reply...
Last edited:
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
sportmac
Hall of Fame
Going through this there doesn't appear to be any first title winners:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...champions_in_Open_Era_with_age_of_first_title
Last edited:
bitcoinoperated
Professional
I'd worry the FO curse would get her and she is a one slam wonder disappearing down the rankings for years
bitcoinoperated
Professional
Maybe some like it but mindless bashing doesn't do it for me and another reason no one cares much about the WTA anymore.
TheAssassin
Legend
Do you consider some of the past FO champions one Slam wonders? I don't think I know what the FO curse is about.
I think she could be one of the best of her generation but nowadays you never know what will happen in WTA. We'll see, there is so much time ahead of her.
racket king
Banned
From RG (official average FH speeds):
Thiem 84mph
Wawrinka 81mph
Nadal 79mph
Ostapenko 76mph
Murray 73mph.
Thiem 84mph
Wawrinka 81mph
Nadal 79mph
Ostapenko 76mph
Murray 73mph.
sportmac
Hall of Fame
"...no one..."?
Yeah, I think you meant "...another reason why I don't care...".
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Well then you better be prepared to hit the Mute control when watching the Saturday final. Jelena is vocal as well. Not quite as loud but no less annoying.
Last edited:
airchallenge2
Hall of Fame
Ostapenko hurts my eyes.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Becoming a big fan of Ostapenko! Only 20 years old and has an excellent chance of winning agains Halep!
Don't diss my twin like that!
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Well now that she's 20, perhaps she's more mature (less bratty) now.
Last edited:
smalahove
Hall of Fame
I really like Ostapenkos game: ultra-aggressive and willing to go to the net.
That being said, to me, that list just goes to show how different the average gamestyle is between the men and women.
The WTA pros play very flat, whilst the ATP pros vary their game much, much more with regards to spin and pace - meaning they often take down the pace deliberately.
What is not apparent in the list below, is the spin rate. Without knowing Ostapenkos average spin rate on those FHs, Patrick Moratouglou in his "The Coach" section on Game, Set and Mats said Thiem had an average spin rate on his FH of 3577 (iirc), a little above Nadal. My guess is that Ostapenkos averages somewhere between 1000 and 1500, most likely around 1000.
racket king
Banned
Ostapenko speed/spin (left) -v- Halep speed/spin (right)
Don't think the low spin numbers matter if she can get the ball past her opponent.
The other stats which I thought were interesting for Ostapanko were:
- only 4% of her shots are in the middle of the court
- 41% of her shots land within 1m of the lines.
Fedinkum
Legend
That is just sexie...
FiReFTW
Legend
Ostapenko speed/spin (left) -v- Halep speed/spin (right)
Don't think the low spin numbers matter if she can get the ball past her opponent.
The other stats which I thought were interesting for Ostapanko were:
- only 4% of her shots are in the middle of the court
- 41% of her shots land within 1m of the lines.
Link to this video?
racket king
Banned
Wow, great 1st game.....
Come on Ostapenko, put the grunting gorilla out of her misery!!!
Come on Ostapenko, put the grunting gorilla out of her misery!!!
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
She did it She won 
noobforehand20
Professional
imagine if gulbis had won that RG semi in 2014, latvia could be very well on their way to become the next tennis powerhouse
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Jelena Ostapenko, came from nowhere to be French Open Champion like a Hollywood script! Jelena has the game to win against "any" opponent, mentally tough like Justine Henin, powerful groundstrokes like that of Kim Cluster and now, lots of confidence to become number one in time! She just has to keep winning and can easily take the number one spot! The lady has come to win it all, her way! She has "game"!
Last edited:
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Touch the small up arrow at the top left hand corner!
FiReFTW
Legend
lol what are u talking about.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Another sure thing!
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
The small blue up arrow jump you to the post that the quote was taken from. All you have to do is click or touch on it.
smalahove
Hall of Fame
The weak points in her game are her second serve and her net/volley skills.
If she improves those, which should be feasible, she will be very hard to beat.
ibbi
G.O.A.T.
She reminds me so much of Monica Seles. She has the same cute as a button quality that Seles did when she dominated here, and she hits it hard as ****, wears her heart on her sleeve, and doesn't seem fazed by anything.
Similar threads
