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"l'Enfant Prodige" Lorenzo Musetti's Racquet mystery (HEAD)
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Adam233789
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I don't know his exact racquet, but is backhand is a thing of beauty!
dr325i
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The TK348 is the extreme tour mold
The MP/Pro have different mold
stephenclown
Professional
Damn, as I suspected haha. Any idea what was under the paint? Instinct layups/57a? Or was it very similar to retail?
dr325i
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It is not the PT57A layup.
I’ll get more details
I don’t think it is far from the TGK348 layup
johndajohn
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The PT348.1 is the TGK348.1 (retail) and TGT348.1 (pro stock) with a special layup.
i own one of Musettis and one belonging to another player as a test frame. Both beautiful frames!
chrischris
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Kennelbach, Austria.
vsbabolat
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Therefore, could it be said that being a PT layout it is more flexible than the retail frame?
Thanks
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dr325i
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It is different. The layup is not only about the Flex but weight distribution, etc.
CiscoPC600
Hall of Fame
Is it lynx tour in the crosses?
One Handed Dynasty
Semi-Pro
What would you say the most notable differences are?
dr325i
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I have not tried the PT348.
One Handed Dynasty
Semi-Pro
That is by far the most surprising fact in this thread!
Down_the_line
Legend
Bump.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
~340g strung, 345SW PT348.1Did someone share the specs ?
galapagos
Hall of Fame
thank you, do you maybe know the balance ?
dr325i
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32.3cm strung
2nd Serve Ace
Hall of Fame
I'll keep the Q&A going: leather or synthetic grip?
So time for a little advert for the TW customization tool...
I guess that should be pretty similar to his racket... Aaaand I'm considering buying one now
Or maybe the layup is totally different?...
Unforced Winner
New User
I like Musetti backhand grip. It has somewhat of an oldschool feeling with his thumb next to the index finger (like Kuerten or Sampras) instead of the thumb in between index and the middle finger (like Fed and all the others).
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jmacdaununder2
Legend
Thiem does the same thing; apparently in his case it's been suggested it's something of a legacy from originally being a two hander. It actually makes Thiem's backhand follow through sometimes appear a bit punchy a la Boris Becker's sledgehammer. Becker eventually changed to a more conventional grip with the index finger spread which it was noted at the time enabled him to follow through more fully and more around the outside of the ball, adding to more consistency on rally balls. Given Thiem's 'sideswipe' backhand is something of a signature shot, for better or worse, it would be an interesting change. I'll have to watch Musetti more closely, but his follow through in the videos I've seen looks kinda Gasquetesque; similar grip too, re index finger and thumb.
Unforced Winner
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Interesting input, thanks!
Not sure if all these guys that use such grip had a two hander backhand before (Kuerten?). I personnally been using this grip for 30+ years and have no idea how to hit a two hander.
The oddness in Thiem's backhand, IMHO, comes from his straight arm preparation, which makes his swing look like a wooden stick rotating around his shoulder.
Not sure if all these guys that use such grip had a two hander backhand before (Kuerten?). I personnally been using this grip for 30+ years and have no idea how to hit a two hander
.The oddness in Thiem's backhand, IMHO, comes from his straight arm preparation, which makes his swing look like a wooden stick rotating around his shoulder.
Indeed Gasquetesque... interesting thing is:
While the backswings and set-ups are similar, the end results differ.
If we look at cross-court shots only, (my benchmark for a good 1HBH) Gasquet put most of his effort on upward lifting/brushing, while Musetti put WAYY more on pace, which results in a MUCH more powerful shot.
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Interesting input, thanks!
Not sure if all these guys that use such grip had a two hander backhand before (Kuerten?). I personnally been using this grip for 30+ years and have no idea how to hit a two hander
The oddness in Thiem's backhand, IMHO, comes from his straight arm preparation, which makes his swing look like a wooden stick rotating around his shoulder.
Thiem practiced a lot with Wawrinka, and picked up his "open-chest" across-the-body FULL follow-thru swing.
It can be done with straight-armed prep/set-ups or not (like Wawrinka himself without straight-armed set-up).
Another sample who was heavily influenced by the Waw / Thiem style -- Shapovalov, adding THE JUMP.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Was only referring specifically to Thiem re grip legacy; it was just something I'd read about him a while back.Interesting input, thanks!
Not sure if all these guys that use such grip had a two hander backhand before (Kuerten?). I personnally been using this grip for 30+ years and have no idea how to hit a two hander
The oddness in Thiem's backhand, IMHO, comes from his straight arm preparation, which makes his swing look like a wooden stick rotating around his shoulder.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Agree Gasquet often goes for revs over pace; that 103 mph backhand he hit at the 2013 Sony Open with the mini pirouette on the end was certainly something else though.
datsveryinterestin
Professional
Musetti racquet length? Looks extended to me.
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2nd Serve Ace
Hall of Fame
Excellent point. Going to hold that hand/forearm angle better with this grip.I like Musetti backhand grip. It has somewhat of an oldschool feeling with his thumb next to the index finger (like Kuerten or Sampras) instead of the thumb in between index and the middle finger (like Fed and all the others).
dr325i
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McEncock
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Hey!I guess that should be pretty similar to his racket... Aaaand I'm considering buying one now
Or maybe the layup is totally different?...
According to the infos @dr325i shared with us, yes it is a different lay-up BUT the chinese one is used by more and more atp players, like Cerundolo little brother.
I think you can go for it eyes closed.
dr325i
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I now have both, the retail and the PT348.1Hey!
According to the infos @dr325i shared with us, yes it is a different lay-up BUT the chinese one is used by more and more atp players, like Cerundolo little brother.
I think you can go for it eyes closed.
Very slight differences in layup. The PT348.1 is slightly softer and lower power, and more feedback, but very slight differences.
The retail (TGK/TGT) layup is wonderful on this stick.
Aaaaaand bought
thx Dr325i!
And the grip size please
dr325i
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TK82, L3And the grip size please
vsbabolat
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There’s Pros that use TK82S pallets. It comes down personal preference. I have no idea what the breakdown I know off the top of my head that Robin Haase and Ivashka use TK82S pallets
wouu! how do you know they use TK82s?
Seth
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Anything @vsbabolat or @dr325i say about HEAD racquets and pros can be taken as the gospel. I’m not trying to be rude, but I see that you’re classified as a “new user” and may not know that yet.
dr325i
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To add to VS’s comment - yes, quite a few of pro stocks I got in latest PJs came with the TK82S pallets...
dr325i
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That is an interesting question.
Gravity Pro was the first one I tried and was impressed. Did not need any customization, stable, right amount of power, spin, great layup, excellent feel, thin beam cuts through the air. The head shape and PJ was something I could not get used to. I tried Gravity Tour but was not impressed by it except excellent layup and feel
From the extreme line I only tried Extreme Tour and still have it in my bag. Such an easy to use layup and great combo of power, spin, control...
Radical pro was a bit underpowered for me. Radical MP way overpowered. Again, great feeling layups.
Prestige MP is a classic feel, buttery soft (a few I had all came at 56RA strung. However, the launch angle was to low for me and needed too much work (vs. my standard 16x19 95 sq in). But the feel was such an improvement over previous versions.
The speed MP I tried was too powerful for me.
So, if I had to rank them, Id go with Gravity Pro, Extreme Tour, Radical Pro, Prestige MP. All 4 are very different though.
thanks for the feedbak, always good to read something from those who really know about rackets and the brand
