Li Na victory is huge for Asian tennis.

[Amelie Mauresmo]

Chris Evert and Cliff Drysdale are correct Li Na influence in Asia is huge. Li Na faces enormous pressure from the Chinese media. I don't think people realize how much pressure she has to deal with.This second grand slam title at the AO proves Li is a real champion. I wonder if people realize how brave Li Na is to challenge the Chinese tennis authorities for getting a larger portion of her prize money and being able to pick her own coaches. Li Na is a brave young woman and she proved tonight she's a real champion. In the first set Li played nervous tennis but once she won the first set the match is over. I hope this victory gives Li the confidence to challenge Serena.

 

[realplayer]

and she's really funny.

 

[Deleted member 120290]

and rich.

10 yuans

 

[*Sparkle*]

I love Li Na.

Everyone should watch her acceptance speech. If you've already watched it, watch it again!

 

[Kerouac]

Does this mean there are going to be even more soulless, empty seated Asian swing tournaments replacing the historical European ones?

 

[Sentinel]

Her win is big for Chinese tennis. Not sure what you mean by "Asian tennis". Could you explain ?

e.g. i don't see it affecting tennis in India.

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

Does this mean there are going to be even more soulless, empty seated Asian swing tournaments replacing the historical European ones?

^^^
This +100. Spot on 'Jack'

(nothing against Li Na - congrats to her)

 

[OTMPut]

Does this mean there are going to be even more soulless, empty seated Asian swing tournaments replacing the historical European ones?

What does historical mean here? Do dead people get up from grave to come and watch tennis?

 

[Kerouac]

What does historical mean here? Do dead people get up from grave to come and watch tennis?

Ones with years of history on the WTA tour, which most of the best players have won. The European indoor section has gone, great tournaments like Filderstadt and Zurich have gone, Moscow has been limited to Tier II status. The WTA were going to get rid of the Tokyo PPO to be replaced by another China tournament, however they will now be replacing San Diego instead.

 

[syke]

East Asia... Not Asia... The Indian subcontinent wouldn't care one bit what is happening on the East Asian corridor. Vice versa...

Would love to see some aspiring individuals from North Korea.. hahaha...

 

[jones101]

Its great for the WTA, and their ever expanding Asian Market

 

[ScentOfDefeat]

Do any of you think Li Na's husband chose the name 'Dennis' because it's similar to 'tennis'?

 

[Mainad]

It will be interesting to see if Li's latest Slam victory can finally kickstart some interest in the men's game in China. There are already several Chinese women on the tour but I can't think of a single Chinese guy apart from the veteran Yen-Hsun Lu who is actually Taiwanese and not from China proper!

Does anyone think the men's game in China will finally get a boost from Li winning her second Slam, or is it likely to make no difference?

 

[Amelie Mauresmo]

Her win is big for Chinese tennis. Not sure what you mean by "Asian tennis". Could you explain ?

e.g. i don't see it affecting tennis in India.

It isn't rocket science women tennis is very North American and Eurocentric. When Asian kids SEE Li Na win her second slam it inspires them to pick up a tennis racket. The gender issue is also a factor a lot of Asian cultures are patriarchal and Li Na success can help young Asian women have an opportunity for a better life. Women tennis is the most lucrative women sport on earth. I know some people don't care but for me personally it is wonderful to see another woman of colour win a grand slam. Li Na is having the effect in Asia the same way the Williams Sisters success inspired black kids to pick up a tennis racket.

 

[monfed]

As an asian (BTW Asian doesn't only mean chinese and japs :lol: ) this is a proud moment. Though it would be great if some Indian like Sania Mirza could win a slam, or have a first time male singles slam winner. Too bad Somdev picked Ralph as his idol than Fed, makes Simon look like a ball basher. :lol:

 

[syke]

Do any of you think Li Na's husband chose the name 'Dennis' because it's similar to 'tennis'?

Better than being called Pennis..

 

[dominikk1985]

Chris Evert and Cliff Drysdale are correct Li Na influence in Asia is huge. Li Na faces enormous pressure from the Chinese media. I don't think people realize how much pressure she has to deal with.This second grand slam title at the AO proves Li is a real champion. I wonder if people realize how brave Li Na is to challenge the Chinese tennis authorities for getting a larger portion of her prize money and being able to pick her own coaches. Li Na is a brave young woman and she proved tonight she's a real champion. In the first set Li played nervous tennis but once she won the first set the match is over. I hope this victory gives Li the confidence to challenge Serena.

I agree with that. chinese authorities don't exactly appreciate if you disagree with them so standing up against them was a brave act.

she had to suceed though if she had failed the chinese tennis authorities sure wouldn't have picked her up. if you open your mouth you have to follow-up with performing and she did that. the pressure was huge and in the past often got to her but this time she came through.

 

[dominikk1985]

It will be interesting to see if Li's latest Slam victory can finally kickstart some interest in the men's game in China. There are already several Chinese women on the tour but I can't think of a single Chinese guy apart from the veteran Yen-Hsun Lu who is actually Taiwanese and not from China proper!

Does anyone think the men's game in China will finally get a boost from Li winning her second Slam, or is it likely to make no difference?

taiwan had a lot of good juniors in the last years but apart from lu they did not really come through.

 

[heftylefty]

Nice original post A.M. I agree that Li Na could be and should be a very strong challenger to Serena, and that go for tennis and Serena.

 

[syke]

It will be interesting to see if Li's latest Slam victory can finally kickstart some interest in the men's game in China. There are already several Chinese women on the tour but I can't think of a single Chinese guy apart from the veteran Yen-Hsun Lu who is actually Taiwanese and not from China proper!

Does anyone think the men's game in China will finally get a boost from Li winning her second Slam, or is it likely to make no difference?

There is a reason why Chinese men have such a lacklustre presence on the international sports scene. Just take a look at the Olympics, its always the women in the limelight.

.......

 

[dpli2010]

It will be interesting to see if Li's latest Slam victory can finally kickstart some interest in the men's game in China. There are already several Chinese women on the tour but I can't think of a single Chinese guy apart from the veteran Yen-Hsun Lu who is actually Taiwanese and not from China proper!

Does anyone think the men's game in China will finally get a boost from Li winning her second Slam, or is it likely to make no difference?

I do, Mainad. To me, the appearance of Ze Zhang in the main draw of this AO and his first set win over Verdasco has indicated the impact of Li Na's last victory in RG on the man side, and this second GS, you will see...

 

[dpli2010]

Chris Evert and Cliff Drysdale are correct Li Na influence in Asia is huge. Li Na faces enormous pressure from the Chinese media. I don't think people realize how much pressure she has to deal with.This second grand slam title at the AO proves Li is a real champion. I wonder if people realize how brave Li Na is to challenge the Chinese tennis authorities for getting a larger portion of her prize money and being able to pick her own coaches. Li Na is a brave young woman and she proved tonight she's a real champion. In the first set Li played nervous tennis but once she won the first set the match is over. I hope this victory gives Li the confidence to challenge Serena.

I see the challenge is valid in RG, but not quite in London or Flushing Meadows. I almost smell Li Na's third GS there, to be honest...

 

[dpli2010]

Her win is big for Chinese tennis. Not sure what you mean by "Asian tennis". Could you explain ?

e.g. i don't see it affecting tennis in India.

I would say so too, it's China, not Japan, Korea, Thailand, India...

 

[Ironwood]

Just heard Li Na's win announced on local TV by a newscaster (not a sportscaster) as China's Lina (That's how the name appeared on screen and she pronounced it 'Leena' as one word) wins AO women's title. Really bugs me when news readers mispronounce athlete's names, whatever sport. Even worse when the try to make some comment that quickly suggests they know nothing about the sport!

 

[JJGUY]

the argument b/t Li and Chinese Tennis Association was not about prize money (I heard that a lot on ESPN but they were wrong on this). Chinese tennis players like Li Na, Zheng Jie or Peng they were recruited by the association at young ages, the association spent about US$ 0.5M~1M on each player each year, that includes everything from apparels, equipments, traveling, to coaching, physio and treatments etc. Li also received monthly stipend from the government. When Li Na finally broke free from the association, she knew it's not easy to be on tour "alone", she had prepared for the worst - her savings account could quickly drop to zero. Li mentioned in the interviews and also in her bio, she needed to find sponsors, and "small" things like booking a hotel room and airline tickets became her job. In the past all these tings were taken care of by the association, all she had to do is to bring her racket and play a match on court. The total of 65% cut of prize money taken by the association may sound a lot, but in reality, it's really nothing when compared the investment spent on those players, and most of them never won any significant prize money on tour.

You are right about Li choosing her own coach. The association had some very rigid rules on who can coach whom, and they also had very tight control on player's schedule. They would force the players to withdraw from tournaments or grand slams to play at national games or Asian games if there are some conflicting schedules. And these are the main reasons Li Na left the association.

Chris Evert and Cliff Drysdale are correct Li Na influence in Asia is huge. Li Na faces enormous pressure from the Chinese media. I don't think people realize how much pressure she has to deal with.This second grand slam title at the AO proves Li is a real champion. I wonder if people realize how brave Li Na is to challenge the Chinese tennis authorities for getting a larger portion of her prize money and being able to pick her own coaches. Li Na is a brave young woman and she proved tonight she's a real champion. In the first set Li played nervous tennis but once she won the first set the match is over. I hope this victory gives Li the confidence to challenge Serena.

 

[Amelie Mauresmo]

the argument b/t Li and Chinese Tennis Association was not about prize money (I heard that a lot on ESPN but they were wrong on this). Chinese tennis players like Li Na, Zheng Jie or Peng they were recruited by the association at young ages, the association spent about US$ 0.5M~1M on each player each year, that includes everything from apparels, equipments, traveling, to coaching, physio and treatments etc. Li also received monthly stipend from the government. When Li Na finally broke free from the association, she knew it's not easy to be on tour "alone", she had prepared for the worst - her savings account could quickly drop to zero. Li mentioned in the interviews and also in her bio, she needed to find sponsors, and "small" things like booking a hotel room and airline tickets became her job. In the past all these tings were taken care of by the association, all she had to do is to bring her racket and play a match on court. The total of 65% cut of prize money taken by the association may sound a lot, but in reality, it's really nothing when compared the investment spent on those players, and most of them never won any significant prize money on tour.

You are right about Li choosing her own coach. The association had some very rigid rules on who can coach whom, and they also had very tight control on player's schedule. They would force the players to withdraw from tournaments or grand slams to play at national games or Asian games if there are some conflicting schedules. And these are the main reasons Li Na left the association.

The Chinese authorities did do a lot for Li Na, Zheng Jie, Pung Shuai, ect but taking 65% of their prize money is cruel and unfair. I hear now the Chinese government only takes 8% of their money even that seems unfair to me. Li Na success means a lot for tennis in China she has opened doors for women to find a lucrative career. Also the other Chinese women on the WTA are very proud of Li Na.

 

[martini1]

Generalization. With the policitical climate in east Asia today, for example the Japanese press is not exactly raving about Li Na as their women's tennis role model, let alone an idol/icon status.

 

[martini1]

I would say so too, it's China, not Japan, Korea, Thailand, India...

Exactly. Asia is the biggest continent in the world with the most population. The middle east is part of Asia, a big chunk of Russia is in Asia, etc. People really need to stop using the Asian term and try to specify a particular country.

 

[JJGUY]

For outsiders, the agreement of 65% cut is "cruel and unfair" almost amounted to exploitation. But for the people in the system, there was nothing "unfair" and it only became an issue when Li and Zheng started to regularly win some matches on tour, but that did not happen overnight. It took the association almost 10 years to get them on track. That 10 years of investment did not come cheap, it's a tremendous amount of money and resource poured into the sport and spent on those athletes. Li and Zheng thrived under the new management agreement, they can support themselves financially on their own, but for hundreds of other unknown players, the state run system is only way they can survive in their athlete career.

The Chinese authorities did do a lot for Li Na, Zheng Jie, Pung Shuai, ect but taking 65% of their prize money is cruel and unfair. I hear now the Chinese government only takes 8% of their money even that seems unfair to me. Li Na success means a lot for tennis in China she has opened doors for women to find a lucrative career. Also the other Chinese women on the WTA are very proud of Li Na.

 

[JJGUY]

For outsiders, the agreement of 65% cut was "cruel and unfair" almost amounted to exploitation. But for the people in the system, there was nothing "wrong" and it only became an issue when Li and Zheng started to regularly win some matches on tour, but that did not happen overnight. It took the association almost 10 years to get them on track. That 10 years of investment did not come cheap, it's a tremendous amount of money and resource poured into the sport and spent on those athletes. Li and Zheng thrived under the new management agreement, they can support themselves financially on their own, but for hundreds of other unknown players, the state run system is only way they can survive in their athlete career.

The Chinese authorities did do a lot for Li Na, Zheng Jie, Pung Shuai, ect but taking 65% of their prize money is cruel and unfair. I hear now the Chinese government only takes 8% of their money even that seems unfair to me. Li Na success means a lot for tennis in China she has opened doors for women to find a lucrative career. Also the other Chinese women on the WTA are very proud of Li Na.

 

[JJGUY]

actually it's very complicated. The regions of China, Korea and Japan or Taiwan always tangled in the political disputes, but that doesn't mean the people in those countries hate each other to the bone. On the contrary, they work together. If you tune in a tv drama series in China, be prepared for an ensemble cast of K-pop, J-pop and Chinese pop stars. It's a trend started in the region about two decades ago, the entertainment industry took the cue first and now it's really nothing new. Celebrities and some star athletes like skaters enjoy the immense popularity across the region. And in the last decade, Shanghai past Los Angles and became the no. 1 destination for Japanese expats. Yes, it's very puzzling the governments fight each other teeth to teeth but the business and culture grow closer than ever.

Generalization. With the policitical climate in east Asia today, for example the Japanese press is not exactly raving about Li Na as their women's tennis role model, let alone an idol/icon status.

 

[martini1]

actually it's very complicated. The regions of China, Korea and Japan or Taiwan always tangled in the political disputes, but that doesn't mean the people in those countries hate each other to the bone. On the contrary, they work together. If you tune in a tv drama series in China, be prepared for an ensemble cast of K-pop, J-pop and Chinese pop stars. It's a trend started in the region about two decades ago, the entertainment industry took the cue first and now it's really nothing new. Celebrities and some star athletes like skaters enjoy the immense popularity across the region. And in the last decade, Shanghai past Los Angles and became the no. 1 destination for Japanese expats. Yes, it's very puzzling the governments fight each other teeth to teeth but the business and culture grow closer than ever.

You are correct on the people level vs government level. You will even see Chinese cheering for Korean or even Japanese national teams in the world cup in some occasions. However seeing your neighbor winning the big one is not the same as seeing your countryman / woman winning it. Let me say since Abe returned as pm of Japan, the vibe between China and Japan is not the same.

 

[Sentinel]

It isn't rocket science women tennis is very North American and Eurocentric. When Asian kids SEE Li Na win her second slam it inspires them to pick up a tennis racket. The gender issue is also a factor a lot of Asian cultures are patriarchal and Li Na success can help young Asian women have an opportunity for a better life. Women tennis is the most lucrative women sport on earth. I know some people don't care but for me personally it is wonderful to see another woman of colour win a grand slam. Li Na is having the effect in Asia the same way the Williams Sisters success inspired black kids to pick up a tennis racket.

Thanks for clarifying. As a European, I didn't know China was in Asia.

 

[dpli2010]

actually it's very complicated. The regions of China, Korea and Japan or Taiwan always tangled in the political disputes, but that doesn't mean the people in those countries hate each other to the bone. On the contrary, they work together. If you tune in a tv drama series in China, be prepared for an ensemble cast of K-pop, J-pop and Chinese pop stars. It's a trend started in the region about two decades ago, the entertainment industry took the cue first and now it's really nothing new. Celebrities and some star athletes like skaters enjoy the immense popularity across the region. And in the last decade, Shanghai past Los Angles and became the no. 1 destination for Japanese expats. Yes, it's very puzzling the governments fight each other teeth to teeth but the business and culture grow closer than ever.

As Chinese, I personally don't see the impact of Li Na's success goes beyond China, but am certainly happy if it would do something to all Asian women...

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

As an asian (BTW Asian doesn't only mean chinese

and japs :lol: )

"As an asian ....doesn't only mean chinese and _____?!"

That's so Fedfanboy of you, you low rent, denigrating bigot.

 

[jussumman]

Do any of you think Li Na's husband chose the name 'Dennis' because it's similar to 'tennis'?

idk but that's kinda funny. Li Na is married to both Tennis and Dennis.

You guys really think Na is that funny? I think she's going out of her way to make jabs at the fact that being a female she's better than the man (her husband). He's so lucky to fix her racquets and fetch her balls. What a nice guy.

 

[Goosehead]

Do any of you think Li Na's husband chose the name 'Dennis' because it's similar to 'tennis'?

ooooooohh yeah.

 

[Vanhool]

idk but that's kinda funny. Li Na is married to both Tennis and Dennis.

You guys really think Na is that funny? I think she's going out of her way to make jabs at the fact that being a female she's better than the man (her husband). He's so lucky to fix her racquets and fetch her balls. What a nice guy.

He has said he picked Dennis for his English name because it rhymes with tennis. Chinese like wordplay...bats are lucky because the word for bat contains the word for luck; the number 4 is unlucky because it sounds like the word for death.

I lived there for a little while (2005). I don't purport to know everything, but from my observations, I think Li and her husband are doing fine. First off, Chinese are not as obsessed with masculinity as some other cultures (they don't worry about being manly, they just are manly), and the models for what is valued in manhood are somewhat different than America. I don't think sensitivity or machoness were the main criteria. And even if I am wrong, the more important thing is that he was laughing his arse off during the whole thing (and all the way to the bank). You know how he always wears a baseball cap with the Crown hotel logo? That's his sponsor. How many tennis spouses have their own sponsorship deals. That's how popular their schtick is back home. He is a full on celebrity because of it.

I think a lot of guys think that because it would bother them, it must bother Dennis. I don't think it does. I think her attitude during matches and practice may have. She has said having a new coach and taking Dennis out of that position) has been super helpful for their marriage.

 

[WildVolley]

There is a reason why Chinese men have such a lacklustre presence on the international sports scene. Just take a look at the Olympics, its always the women in the limelight.

.......

China did have that really good 110m hurdler.

I think that lack of courts in China is what holds the country back in terms of tennis. I had a number of Chinese nationals on my tennis team when I was coaching, but most obviously hadn't spent much time on court. In the big cities, where most people live, it seems you have to have money to play, which is less the case in the US.

Height might be an issue, but I expect that the men are growing taller as the country becomes wealthier. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a Chinese man in the top 20 within five years.

Congratulations to Li Na. Two grandslam titles is legitimate.

Does anyone know how much of her winnings she gets to keep? Are the taxes really much higher in China these days than in the West, where governments will often take over 50% in taxes?

 

[bluetrain4]

China did have that really good 110m hurdler.

I think that lack of courts in China is what holds the country back in terms of tennis. I had a number of Chinese nationals on my tennis team when I was coaching, but most obviously hadn't spent much time on court. In the big cities, where most people live, it seems you have to have money to play, which is less the case in the US.

Height might be an issue, but I expect that the men are growing taller as the country becomes wealthier. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a Chinese man in the top 20 within five years.

Congratulations to Li Na. Two grandslam titles is legitimate.

Does anyone know how much of her winnings she gets to keep? Are the taxes really much higher in China these days than in the West, where governments will often take over 50% in taxes?

I think is the biggest misperception about Chinese athletes.

Surely, statistically, it would be shown that Chinese people are actually shorter than their counterparts in many other countries. But, that's just a statistical average. China has 1.3 or so billion people and far more men (and women) over six feet tall than nearly every other country. And, when talking about elite athletic competition, top athletes are generally going to be from the percentage of the population who are more physically gifted - stronger, more endurance, taller, whatever, depending on the sport.

It's not that China doesn't have the taller male athletes to compete in tennis - they have plenty in terms of pure numbers. But, maybe somewhat like the U.S. at this point, it's an issue of whether the best athletes are going to play tennis rather than a different sport.

 

[jm1980]

There is a reason why Chinese men have such a lacklustre presence on the international sports scene. Just take a look at the Olympics, its always the women in the limelight.

.......

Lackluster?

2008 Beijing Olympics: 24 Gold medals won by Chinese men; 27 by women
2012 London Olympics: 18 Gold from the men; 20 from the women

This means if the Chinese only brought their men and everybody else brought their entire mixed delegation, they would have finished:

- 2nd place in Beijing (2008) behind the US.
- 3rd place in London (2008) behind the US and Great Britain (host nation)

I wouldn't exactly call that lackluster.

 

[slice bh compliment]

Thanks for clarifying. As a European, I didn't know China was in Asia.

Love how like international tennis is....love the geography lessons we get here. Wei better than we get in the 'Mercan publix skule system! Totes thaaanx!

It isn't rocket science women tennis is very North American and Eurocentric. When Asian kids SEE Li Na win her second slam it inspires them to pick up a tennis racket. The gender issue is also a factor a lot of Asian cultures are patriarchal and Li Na success can help young Asian women have an opportunity for a better life. Women tennis is the most lucrative women sport on earth. I know some people don't care but for me personally it is wonderful to see another woman of colour win a grand slam. Li Na is having the effect in Asia the same way the Williams Sisters success inspired black kids to pick up a tennis racket.

Is it kosher to call her Na Li? Na is a cool first name. I knew a girl in junior tennis named Shana. It would be great if they played dubs together.
And went by their first names. Shana-Na.

 

[mcenroefan]

Li Na is awesome.....really happy to see her win this one after the unfortunate mishap at last year's Aussie Open.

 

[JJGUY]

the tax rate for prize money is about 30% in China, but that only applies to the sports events happened in China. In Li Na's case, AO is in Australia and the prize money she earned is subject to Australian tax (close to 40%), she will not have to pay any additional tax in China. This is one of the benefits for being an athlete in China, most countries do not have such tax exemption for prize money earned in foreign lands.

In the "Fly-Alone" agreement she signed with Tennis Association, Li (or Zheng and Peng) would have to pay 8% of their prize money to the association. But after 2012, they were no longer required to pay any. In other words, they now can keep all their prize money after the tax charged by the event organizer.

China did have that really good 110m hurdler.

I think that lack of courts in China is what holds the country back in terms of tennis. I had a number of Chinese nationals on my tennis team when I was coaching, but most obviously hadn't spent much time on court. In the big cities, where most people live, it seems you have to have money to play, which is less the case in the US.

Height might be an issue, but I expect that the men are growing taller as the country becomes wealthier. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a Chinese man in the top 20 within five years.

Congratulations to Li Na. Two grandslam titles is legitimate.

Does anyone know how much of her winnings she gets to keep? Are the taxes really much higher in China these days than in the West, where governments will often take over 50% in taxes?

 

[WildVolley]

the tax rate for prize money is about 30% in China, but that only applies to the sports events happened in China. In Li Na's case, AO is in Australia and the prize money she earned is subject to Australian tax (close to 40%), she will not have to pay any additional tax in China. This is one of the benefits for being an athlete in China, most countries do not have such tax exemption for prize money earned in foreign lands.

In the "Fly-Alone" agreement she signed with Tennis Association, Li (or Zheng and Peng) would have to pay 8% of their prize money to the association. But after 2012, they were no longer required to pay any. In other words, they now can keep all their prize money after the tax charged by the event organizer.

Thanks for the info. I thought that it might be the case that she pays less in taxes than many in the West.

Most professional tennis players in the US can choose to have a residence in a state with no state-income tax, which can reduce the burden. Still, the top federal marginal rate in the US is now 39.8%.

Professional tennis players who receive prizes in different countries must have unbelievably complex tax filing requirements.

Now that France has marginal rates as high as 75%, the French-Open prize must be a lot less in real terms.

 

[JJGUY]

I believe FO is about 40% tax, the Wembley is the highest 50% tax. And most counties do charge income tax for prize money earned in other countries. Rafa complained last year he had to pay an additional 56% tax back to Spain for his USO paycheck. That's why a lot of athletes choose Monte Carlo as their residence because of the zero income tax there.

Thanks for the info. I thought that it might be the case that she pays less in taxes than many in the West.

Most professional tennis players in the US can choose to have a residence in a state with no state-income tax, which can reduce the burden. Still, the top federal marginal rate in the US is now 39.8%.

Professional tennis players who receive prizes in different countries must have unbelievably complex tax filing requirements.

Now that France has marginal rates as high as 75%, the French-Open prize must be a lot less in real terms.

 

[martini1]

I believe FO is about 40% tax, the Wembley is the highest 50% tax. And most counties do charge income tax for prize money earned in other countries. Rafa complained last year he had to pay an additional 56% tax back to Spain for his USO paycheck. That's why a lot of athletes choose Monte Carlo as their residence because of the zero income tax there.

Is that right? I thought the US is one of the few countries in the world that does global taxation. For example, countries like Canada (and the UK and Australia too I believe), only require citizens to pay taxes on domestic income. If you make millions off shore it is not taxed.

If Rafa pays 40% tax on his USO check and then 56% tax to Spain, that's 96% of the pot, assuming no foreign tax deduction. But even with a deduction that's quite a lot of money for taxes.

 

[WildVolley]

Is that right? I thought the US is one of the few countries in the world that does global taxation. For example, countries like Canada (and the UK and Australia too I believe), only require citizens to pay taxes on domestic income. If you make millions off shore it is not taxed.

If Rafa pays 40% tax on his USO check and then 56% tax to Spain, that's 96% of the pot, assuming no foreign tax deduction. But even with a deduction that's quite a lot of money for taxes.

That seems high, but usually there are loopholes so lawyers get their cut.

As JJGUY notes, there's a reason so many professional tennis players reside in Monte Carlo.

I know France now has 75% marginal rates on anything above a million euros, but I don't know if it applies to all sports. By doing that, they've essentially run all the good football players out of the country and famous actors.

 

[1477aces]

Is that right? I thought the US is one of the few countries in the world that does global taxation. For example, countries like Canada (and the UK and Australia too I believe), only require citizens to pay taxes on domestic income. If you make millions off shore it is not taxed.

If Rafa pays 40% tax on his USO check and then 56% tax to Spain, that's 96% of the pot, assuming no foreign tax deduction. But even with a deduction that's quite a lot of money for taxes.

no it's 56% on the remaining 60%, still very high rate of taxation obviously.

 

[Nostradamus]

This Li Na winning won't do a Thing for Asian Men's tennis. that is too bad. it isn't cause tennis isn't popular in Asia. They just don't have the Talent.....................LOL........