Like him I'd rather use my first serve twice
After all I'm only using one FH from the baseline (don't also use a slice one etc).
But you don't hit every FH flat, like a first serve, do you? Even if you don't use slice [what happens when you get pulled way wide? The squash shot comes very much in handy.], surely you use varying amounts of TS.
Then there are moonballs, drop shots, blocks, etc.
Wait, you guys have two serves..?
I honestly wonder why Kyrgios hasn't improved his underhand serve to this level. He just dinks it!
Too much of a take back. Can be seen quicker.I honestly wonder why Kyrgios hasn't improved his underhand serve to this level. He just dinks it!
He can still create that excellent slice with a shorter take back.Too much of a take back. Can be seen quicker.
6'2"Are you 6'6" tall?
Yeah, but why waste time learning another serve well?My first serve isn't so fast that I can feed people a steady diet of them.. Got to mix it up. Often I hit slice as first serve especially on deuce side. A good slice serve should see almost like flat serve but pull the guy off the court.
Honestly not too often, as I've pulled out of ladder matches over the last few years and I mainly rally (better workout anyhow) with a few chosen partners (most, if not all, decent baseline players).Wait, you get to serve?
Usually yes, but when I look at how much room for improvement my ground game has, I rather do that.Variety is the spice of life
Like him I'd rather use my first serve twice
I honestly wonder why Kyrgios hasn't improved his underhand serve to this level. He just dinks it!
Except that I'm also an alpha male and I don't like when people pound my second serve.You probably should do your second serve twice, and get a realistic data on how many points did you really lose ONLY because of your serve being too weak.
I watched his match today on tv, and the radar reported 124 km/h (77mph) for his underhand serve - that kind of surpriced me.
I tense on the second serve
Except that I'm also an alpha male and I don't like when people pound my second serve
I don't believe in first serves. I prefer to hit my second serve twice. But the first of these 2 second serves has less spin (and more forward ball velocity).Like him I'd rather use my first serve twice
After all I'm only using one FH from the baseline (don't also use a slice one etc).
How about you?
Wait, you (we) get to ask questions about serves?Wait, you get to serve?
When his 2nd serve in ON, it can be quite effective. A blessing. But all too often, his 2nd serve inconsistency is a curse.Like him I'd rather use my first serve twice
After all I'm only using one FH from the baseline (don't also use a slice one etc).
How about you?
Flat FHs, similar enough, imho.No Fh lobs? Drop shots? Same ball speed on all Fh shots? Same net clearance? Perhaps all your forehand swingpaths are not the same after all.
I understand that: 25% would be pretty bad.Most rec players do more than they can handle on their first serve, which keeps the first serve percentage really low (lower than 25% is very common at low rec levels).
Then I would say that it's time to add some variety to your Fh/game. Some opponents might thrive on your flat, unchanging FHs. It would be like a baseball pitcher who only throws one type of pitch. A lot of batters would lock on to that... even if it was a 95 mph fast ball. Same for the tennis serve... need the variety to keep the returner from becoming too comfortable -- knowing what would be comingFlat FHs, similar enough, imho.
Thanks and I do the above. Serve just doesn't feel natural to me and it was frustraiting to learn, especially due to the lack of good progress in terms of power (by contrast to the FH and even the 1HBH). All starts with an inconsistent toss.Changes can include ball speed, amount of spin, trajectory / height over the net, directional changes or patterns of play.
2 first serves? That'd get me df's 70% of the time.
Typically, my 1st serve is about 20% matchplay, maybe 40% in practice.
Yeah, but why waste time learning another serve well?
Like Federer I'd rather keep practicing the things I do well so that I don't forget them (such as my groundstrokes from the BL)...
Except that I'm also an alpha male and I don't like when people pound my second serve.
Joke aside, what I hate most, is when I tense on the second serve and end up swinging too slow and netting it in a DF.
Yeah, but why waste time learning another serve well?
Like Federer I'd rather keep practicing the things I do well so that I don't forget them (such as my groundstrokes from the BL)...
Nick was working on it yesterday. Still nowhere near as good as this guy though.
There really isn’t anything natural about tennis. But a good serve takes time to develop. In the plus side it’s easier to practice soloThanks and I do the above. Serve just doesn't feel natural to me and it was frustraiting to learn, especially due to the lack of good progress in terms of power (by contrast to the FH and even the 1HBH). All starts with an inconsistent toss.