I was just wondering how any of you guys would handle this situation. I was playing in the semis of a local tournament on clay and in the 2nd set when the other guy was serving I called his ace out. He challenged the call and I couldn't find the spot on the clay. He was so adament about it I gave him the point since I had a tiny bit of doubt that I was 100% correct. On the very next serve I say that he hit the ball wide and again he challenged the point, once again I showed him the spot but wasn't sure whether that was the actual spot the ball landed. After arguing about it for 3-4 minutes we agreed to replay the point. Anyhow, i'm very discuraged because after winning the 1st set I was up 4-1 in the 2nd and this totally blew my concentration and I lost 4-6! Anyone on here had a similar experience?? This is the 1st time something like this has happend to me since college. Let me take that back the last time I played this same guy I had match point and I called his 2nd serve out to win and he challenged the spot and it had landed half out so we played the point over and he won it and the match!! I can't believe this has happend to me twice and ironically to the same guy, what should I do just play it safe and not call balls that I see out in??????
Line call dispute cost me the match!
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yea, this happens alot in high school tennis cuz theres no line judges. we were playing the other teams no1 doubles in a tie-break. score was 6-5 with my partner serving. he served a down-the-line ace and they called it out. i was 110% sure it was in because it landed inside the line, didnt even touch it. and htye called it out. we were so angry we lost our concentration and lost the next 2 points and the match >=(. next time, im not going to settle with a re-do
You should not call a ball unless you are *certain*. You were not certain, and while your opponent seems asinine from this description, who's to know you don't have bad eyes or bad calls, especially if you still aren't certain? No offense, you should just only make calls if you are 100%, and stand firmly unless you are proven wrong 100%.
Steady Eddy
Legend
You say that this hasn't happened since college. So was this a league match? Were you in a tournament? Or was an impromptu match against someone you know socially? If it's the last, what did you lose by losing this match? Those are just practice matches.
steveq81
Rookie
WBF sums things up quite well with regard to your most recent match. The guy does seem like a bit of a jerk, but if you aren't 100 percent sure the ball is out, it's in. Period.
Also, with regard to your previous match with this same player you state:
"I had match point and I called his 2nd serve out to win and he challenged the spot and it had landed half out so we played the point over and he won it and the match!!"
If a ball lands "half out" as you say, it must also be "half in." Any shot that lands "half in" is in. If you described that situation correctly, your call was wrong and your opponent was correct.
Also, with regard to your previous match with this same player you state:
"I had match point and I called his 2nd serve out to win and he challenged the spot and it had landed half out so we played the point over and he won it and the match!!"
If a ball lands "half out" as you say, it must also be "half in." Any shot that lands "half in" is in. If you described that situation correctly, your call was wrong and your opponent was correct.
Bodacious DVT
Semi-Pro
it wasnt the line call that cost you, it was your lack of mental toughness.
Tennis_Monk
Hall of Fame
If you won 1 set and you lost 2 set 6-4 how did you loose the match?.
Bad calls are part and parcel of Tennis. Outside Pro levels you will not have cameras. Even line judges make mistakes. One should accept that and play along. In my opinion, there are no negotiations in Tennis. Ball is either IN or OUT. if you are sure its OUT, then there is no discussion. Its OUT .
Bad calls are part and parcel of Tennis. Outside Pro levels you will not have cameras. Even line judges make mistakes. One should accept that and play along. In my opinion, there are no negotiations in Tennis. Ball is either IN or OUT. if you are sure its OUT, then there is no discussion. Its OUT .
Sorry I meant to say he won the 1st set
I was up 4-1 in the second set, but I had lost the 1st set
I was up 4-1 in the second set, but I had lost the 1st set
This was a tounrnament!!!!!!!!!!
I was playing the semi's of a tournament!!! it wasn't a friendly match
I was playing the semi's of a tournament!!! it wasn't a friendly match
so what would you do??
If you had a guy ranting a raving about the call and I couldn't find the mark on the clay, would you just tell him to screw off? I don't know I figured by playing it over I was being fair. Anyhow, it just sucked cause I totally didn't get over it and I stopped thinking about the match and the rest of the games!!! When he won that game it was still 4-2 me on my serve instead of holding for 5-2 i lost the next game and the rest was history. I lost the 1st set, I just re-read my thread, I meant to say he won the 1st
If you had a guy ranting a raving about the call and I couldn't find the mark on the clay, would you just tell him to screw off? I don't know I figured by playing it over I was being fair. Anyhow, it just sucked cause I totally didn't get over it and I stopped thinking about the match and the rest of the games!!! When he won that game it was still 4-2 me on my serve instead of holding for 5-2 i lost the next game and the rest was history. I lost the 1st set, I just re-read my thread, I meant to say he won the 1st
Steady Eddy
Legend
I think The Code has its limitations. It's fine for when you're playing someone you can trust. But when you're playing "hardball" in a tournament, a cheater has an advantage, and that's all there is to it. Tennis should join the rest of the sporting world and hire an umpire to look over serious matches. This would make the entry fee higher for tournaments, but I think it would be worth it for serious players.
But I think this is a new thread.
Off The Wall
Semi-Pro
Get a Linesperson
Make the call the best you can. If your opponent doesn't like your calls, invite him to get a linesperson.
Make the call the best you can. If your opponent doesn't like your calls, invite him to get a linesperson.
I'm confused at the criteria you are using to determine whether a ball is In or Out. According to this statement, your opponent was actually right and the ball WAS in. Also, you should know that if you aren't 100% sure then you have to call the ball in. If you're playing on clay and you lose the mark then that's your fault, not your opponents. You should walk over to the mark immediately so there's no question. Sorry but it doesn't sound to me like you got robbed, it sounds like you made some bad calls and then had a mental breakdown.
I'm sorry you lost because it sounds like you could have won if you wouldn't have gotten so caught up in the calls.
Taxvictim
Semi-Pro
Whoa, is that true? If I saw the ball land out, but then can't find a mark to prove it, I give up the point? Can an opponent demand to see the mark on every call?
I could be wrong but if you don't know where the mark is then how can you be sure it's out? In my opinion that just means that you're not actually sure which then means you have to call it in. I don't think someone would challenge each and every call - that just doesn't make sense. How would you feel if your opponent called a ball out and you disputed it but he couldn't find the mark? Not to mention, this particular poster called a ball out because it was 1/2 out....if that's his criteria then he isn't exactly reliable on calls. (no offense meant)
