Most top 10 wins at 1 tournament

2nd Serve Ace

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Noticed that Wilander beat four, at that time, current top 10 players on his way to winning the 82 French. (Lendl, Gerulaitis, Clerc, Vilas)

Think mathematically that's the maximum at one tournament. To even get 4, the player would have to beat seed 1 or 2 early.
 
No even in slams you can beat 5 top 10 players. Fed beat 4 top 10 at the 2017 AO too but it would have beaten 5 had Murray beaten Mischa and had Fed beaten him and the later ones too.
3R #10 Berdych 4R #5 Nishikori QF Mischa (#1 Murray) SF #4 Wawrinka and F #9 RAFA
If the player is a top 10 player than they can only beat four top 10 players at most at a slam.
 

Red Rick

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Tsitsipas won four matches against top 10 players in Canada 2018 : Thiem, Djokovic, Zverev and Anderson. Could have been five if he won against the Nadal in the final
Basically you can if you're ranked low yourself and draw one of the 9 or 10 seeds in the third round and all the rest is according to seeding. It feels really counterintuitive
 
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NAS

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2005 yec,2010, 2012,13 yec,op didn't even bothered to check, this is so hilarious
 

2nd Serve Ace

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It happened so many time in recent years like 2020 yec ,where Med defeated five different players
Whatever, beating 4 top 10s in a 2 week best of 5 major, where those opponents have been winning matches up to the then, is such a different scenario from a year end event, where the third round is a complete tap out anyway.
 

2nd Serve Ace

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Basically you can if you're ranked low yourself and draw one of the 9 or 10 seeds in the third round and all the rest is according to seeding. It feels really counterintuitive
This is it. Would have to beat 9/10 but then have it be in the 5-8 bracket also. Assuming other seeds play out.
 

Third Serve

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Tsitsipas, as much as I dislike him, beat four top 10 players in a row in 2018 Rogers Cup (Thiem, Djokovic, Zverev, and Anderson), but he lost to Nadal in the final. Five top 10 wins was definitely doable.
Edit: this was already listed, my bad
 

jm1980

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No even in slams you can beat 5 top 10 players. Fed beat 4 top 10 at the 2017 AO too but it would have beaten 5 had Murray beaten Mischa and had Fed beaten him and the later ones too.
3R #10 Berdych 4R #5 Nishikori QF Mischa (#1 Murray) SF #4 Wawrinka and F #9 RAFA
If the player is a top 10 player than they can only beat four top 10 players at most at a slam.
There are additional possibilities for more than 5 Top 10 wins. Because tournament seedings are not based on rankings as of the week where they are played, it's possible for the rankings to shift so that the seeds don't match the current rankings.

For example, a player who was ranked #17 wins Canada and is suddenly catapulted into the Top 10, but for Cincy's seeding purposes he is #17 and thus unseeded. This would allow him to be placed in the draw in such a way that a player would have to beat 6 current Top 10 players to win the tournament. Just imagine Dzumhur was this player in the Canada draw where Tsitsipas faced 5 Top 10 players.

Of course it would take a perfect storm but it's theoretically possible. So the answer is probably 6, but I don't think it's ever been done before.
 
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jm1980

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Whatever, beating 4 top 10s in a 2 week best of 5 major, where those opponents have been winning matches up to the then, is such a different scenario from a year end event, where the third round is a complete tap out anyway.
Not always. It's not that uncommon for a 2-0 player to face a 1-1 player where they are both fighting for a SF spot (remember that you can have a three way tie at 2-1).
 
There are additional possibilities for more than 5 Top 10 wins. Because tournament seedings are not based on rankings as of the week where they are played, it's possible for the rankings to shift so that the seeds don't match the current rankings.

For example, a player who was ranked #17 wins Canada and is suddenly catapulted into the Top 10, but for Cincy's seeding purposes he is #17 and thus unseeded. This would allow him to be placed in the draw in such a way that a player would have to beat 6 current Top 10 players to win the tournament. Just imagine Dzumhur was this player in the Canada draw where Tsitsipas faced 5 Top 10 players.

Of course it would take a perfect storm but it's theoretically possible. So the answer is probably 6, but I don't think it's ever been done before.

I don't think this is feasible in a slam, though, and the post to which you replied said in a slam. It would be possible at Cincinnati or Rome. And Miami, I think, as they do the seedings on the Indian Wells rankings (at any rate, they've already done them for this year, prior to tomorrow's rankings coming out).

I guess it's technically possible that someone could be ranked outside the top ten the week before a slam and win a 250, thus entering the top ten, but I don't think that would ever happen. For one thing, they'd have to be ranked way below #10 for their seeding not to be such that they would take up the spot of another top ten player anyway, and 250 points isn't going to mean that big a rise.
 

Sunny014

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No even in slams you can beat 5 top 10 players. Fed beat 4 top 10 at the 2017 AO too but it would have beaten 5 had Murray beaten Mischa and had Fed beaten him and the later ones too.
3R #10 Berdych 4R #5 Nishikori QF Mischa (#1 Murray) SF #4 Wawrinka and F #9 RAFA
If the player is a top 10 player than they can only beat four top 10 players at most at a slam.

What is the all time top 10 for slams won beating most top 10 players en route to the victory?
 

Hamnavoe

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Tsonga won Canada 2014 beating #1 Djokovic, #9 Murray, #8 Dimitrov and #3 Federer consecutively from 13th seed.
 
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Gizo

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When Lendl won the Masters / YEC in 1986, beating #5 Noah, #10 Gomez, #4 Edberg, #3 Wilander and #2 Becker, he didn't drop a single set (the only time that a man has a won 5 match, RR-format YEC without dropping a set), and wasn't taken to a single tiebreaker.

He was only 1 broken once in the tournament, against Gomez (apparently that was the only break point he faced all week as well), and only lost 60 points on serve in those 5 matches / 11 sets. The 2nd set against Gomez was only one out of the 11 in which he conceded more than 4 games.
 

AnOctorokForDinner

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When Lendl won the Masters / YEC in 1986, beating #5 Noah, #10 Gomez, #4 Edberg, #3 Wilander and #2 Becker, he didn't drop a single set (the only time that a man has a won 5 match, RR-format YEC without dropping a set), and wasn't taken to a single tiebreaker.

He was only 1 broken once in the tournament, against Gomez (apparently that was the only break point he faced all week as well), and only lost 60 points on serve in those 5 matches / 11 sets. The 2nd set against Gomez was only one out of the 11 in which he conceded more than 4 games.

Sauce please. Mad stuff. Lendl the HC/carpet BOAT that not enough people care about?
 

Gizo

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Sauce please. Mad stuff. Lendl the HC/carpet BOAT that not enough people care about?

'Becker won exactly 12 points on Lendl's serve and never had a break point, even with the Madison Square Garden crowd of 16,842 pleading with him to make a match of it.'

'He was too good all week. He finished the tournament having lost his serve once in five matches -- and that was in his opener. He never dropped a set and only in that first match against Andres Gomez did he face so much as a break point.'


'He was broken only once in winning all five matches and 13 sets in the Masters. Lendl lost only 60 points on serve, an average of 12 per match.'


'Tonight, for the third straight match, he did not face a break point. He lost only eight points while serving, two of them on double faults.' - After beating Wilander in his SF


'They were soon joined by Lendl, who never faced a break point against Edberg and won the match when Edberg double faulted twice at 30-all in the final game.' - After beating Edberg in his 3rd RR match


Lendl's match against Gomez was actually his opener, so in his final 4 matches of that tournament against the other 4 players ranked in the top 5, he never faced a break point and never conceded more than 4 games in a set. The 2nd set against Gomez, which he came from 3-5 down to win 7-5, was the only time he was under any real pressure.

It's worth pointing out that carpet wasn't really considered to be a particularly 'fast' surface in the 80s as well, and was considered to be a fair one on which players with all styles could do well (both Becker and Lendl played noticeably different on carpet compared to grass).
 

AnOctorokForDinner

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'Becker won exactly 12 points on Lendl's serve and never had a break point, even with the Madison Square Garden crowd of 16,842 pleading with him to make a match of it.'

'He was too good all week. He finished the tournament having lost his serve once in five matches -- and that was in his opener. He never dropped a set and only in that first match against Andres Gomez did he face so much as a break point.'


'He was broken only once in winning all five matches and 13 sets in the Masters. Lendl lost only 60 points on serve, an average of 12 per match.'


'Tonight, for the third straight match, he did not face a break point. He lost only eight points while serving, two of them on double faults.' - After beating Wilander in his SF


'They were soon joined by Lendl, who never faced a break point against Edberg and won the match when Edberg double faulted twice at 30-all in the final game.' - After beating Edberg in his 3rd RR match


Lendl's match against Gomez was actually his opener, so in his final 4 matches of that tournament against the other 4 players ranked in the top 5, he never faced a break point and never conceded more than 4 games in a set. The 2nd set against Gomez, which he came from 3-5 down to win 7-5, was the only time he was under any real pressure.

It's worth pointing out that carpet wasn't really considered to be a particularly 'fast' surface in the 80s as well, and was considered to be a fair one on which players with all styles could do well (both Becker and Lendl played noticeably different on carpet compared to grass).

So Lendl beat all the other Top 5 players in a row, every set by a break (or two), without facing as much as a single BP? This is insane, yet nobody ever mentions it. The lack of interest in Lendl is remarkable.
 

jm1980

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I don't think this is feasible in a slam, though, and the post to which you replied said in a slam. It would be possible at Cincinnati or Rome. And Miami, I think, as they do the seedings on the Indian Wells rankings (at any rate, they've already done them for this year, prior to tomorrow's rankings coming out).

I guess it's technically possible that someone could be ranked outside the top ten the week before a slam and win a 250, thus entering the top ten, but I don't think that would ever happen. For one thing, they'd have to be ranked way below #10 for their seeding not to be such that they would take up the spot of another top ten player anyway, and 250 points isn't going to mean that big a rise.
Yeah it's not possible in Slams because of the 32 seed system and 250 points aren't nearly enough to vault a player that many positions
 

MadariKatu

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In 2001 Ivanisevic beat 3 top10 seeds. Could have been 4 if Ferrero could have won 1 more match, but he was a non factor on grass and didn't get far enough
 
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