Murray hit 62 winners to 9 unforced! And still struggled.

[Fedex]

62 winners to 9 unforced ratio in 4 sets of a slam. Is this a record?

Murray played at an incredibly high standard against Karlovic even lobbing the 6 foot 11 inch giant six times and it was still a major struggle, and admitted afterwards it was mentally exhausting having to keep this up most of the match.

Anyone who watched the entire match I'm sure will agree only 9 unforced errors under intense pressure throughout is an amazing stat.

 

[D.Nalby12]

Not much relevant indicator of form.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Karlovic is not a great mover so i can see how he would blast over 60 plus winners

 

[D.Nalby12]

Yes, movement is the another factor. Servebots like Karlovic, Groth don't posses reliable ground game, their shots comes under hit or miss category. Federer also restricted errors count to Ten in four sets against Groth.

 

[Flatballs]

Murray' return game was superb in that match

 

[NatF]

Stats always look good when playing someone who S&V's a lot. A mistake when Karlovic is approaching the net never counts as unforced only forced.

 

[Sreeram]

Yes hitting those lobs and passes all the time and that too under pressure is a great achievement. I almost watched the whole match but I did not enjoy it much. I would have enjoyed if Andy served well and kept his service game shot. Is there any reason why he served less that 100M/h first serve? Andy said it was a strategy to not give Ivo a chance to hit. But I always thought Andy could have at least placed his serve better to put Ivo on move. He just kept hitting body serve all the time at 90Mh. What is the strategy behind it?

 

[accidental]

Stats always look good when playing someone who S&V's a lot. A mistake when Karlovic is approaching the net never counts as unforced only forced.

This. I think it was the Aus Open 2001 semi where Agassi only hit about 5 unforced errors over 5 sets vs Rafter

Serve volleyer's give you a ton of opportunities to hit winners

 

[Russeljones]

62 winners to 9 unforced ratio in 4 sets of a slam. Is this a record?

Murray played at an incredibly high standard against Karlovic even lobbing the 6 foot 11 inch giant six times and it was still a major struggle, and admitted afterwards it was mentally exhausting having to keep this up most of the match.

Anyone who watched the entire match I'm sure will agree only 9 unforced errors under intense pressure throughout is an amazing stat.

The winners don't say anything. He was playing someone who was rushing the net with abandon and limited mobility by modern standards.

 

[Nathaniel_Near]

The UE don't say anything. He was playing someone who he was always going to win the majority of rallies with anyway, added to already mentioned facets. His UE count was always going to be very low against Karlovic.

 

[Russeljones]

He was playing someone who he was always going to win the majority of rallies with anyway

As already posted in another thread, Andy deserves praise for sticking to a clever plan and executing it so well. The stats should be interpreted within this context.

 

[NatF]

This. I think it was the Aus Open 2001 semi where Agassi only hit about 5 unforced errors over 5 sets vs Rafter

Serve volleyer's give you a ton of opportunities to hit winners

Yes, he played a clean match on his service games and executed well. But the context of the stats is important.

I remember a match with Federer and Mirnyi in Toronto 2004, Federer hit less than a handful of UE's. Same deal as Mirnyi was just non stop attacking the net.

 

[zep]

Nadal hit 42 winners and 15 UEs against Brown and still lost the match. Why is that? It is simply because Wimbledon has always been very lenient in counting UEs.

 

[dominikk1985]

Well he struggled because most of the Points were probably on his serve. against Ivo you have a lot of "dead Points" on his serve so very few Points will decide the set.

murray actually broke Karlovic twice and won a TB, that is a good match against him. he had one lapse when he got broken in the third and against Ivo that is the set.

Murray played a good match, nobody is going to beat Ivo 6:1, 6:3, even if it is Peak fed or djokovic.

 

[reaper]

What constitutes an unforced error is subjective. Radwanska from memory supposedly made only 7 UE against Keys. A very low error count can simply mean a lenient statistician is interpreting what is forced vs unforced.

 

[nguyentuanson16792]

Basically he is a counter puncher . that means a lot of safe shots , low Unforced error but lots of forced Errors

 

[NatF]

Basically he is a counter puncher . that means a lot of safe shots , low Unforced error but lots of forced Errors

That doesn't gel with the amount of winners he hit. Those stats are a product the style of play Karlovic was forcing on him.