Murray is Back to Pushing

[Slice'n'dice]

This is true. As you said, this style has won him 2 slams already, but it has probably cost him a couple others tbh.




He doesn't need to be aggressive no, but he could take another USO 2013 type beat down if he's not careful. Stan's form has been known to fluctuate from match to match. This is about the time he may turn it on as well.

It's a bit late to make drastic changes to his game at 28 though do you not think?

He needs to sort his form out more than anything though, he's not played well since Montreal mostly his grit and fight that carried him through Cincinnati and the first two rounds, maybe going to what he knows best is what will help him find that. He was pretty solid yesterday after all definitely better than the first two rounds.

 

[Steve0904]

It's a bit late to make drastic changes to his game at 28 though do you not think?

He needs to sort his form out more than anything though, he's not played well since Montreal mostly his grit and fight that carried him through Cincinnati and the first two rounds, maybe going to what he knows best is what will help him find that. He was pretty solid yesterday after all definitely better than the first two rounds.

I'm not suggesting he do anything. I'm just saying that recently I've noticed in certain matches that Murray is back to some of his passive (let's say pre Lendl) ways. It works in most matches, but it costs him sometimes in the latter parts of slams. I don't know that there's much he can do about it though.

 

[DolgoSantoro]

Problem with that is that the aggressive game is not refined/worked on when he gets to the later stages. It's like Federer having to sharpen up his net game before the going gets tough. You can't just not practice it in the early matches and then expect it to work later.

True nuff, but Murray did just come off a five setter. He might've just wanted to put an easy win on board and recover a little energy.

I agree with you in general.

 

[dunlop_fort_knox]

I have watched his last two matches. He is a great defender, running left and right and getting the ball back from most difficult positions. BUT, attack is missing again. His last two matches have gone to distance. He always appear to come from behind. Waits for opponent error.

Unfortunately, he is back to Pushing.

he got down two sets to love against the frenchman and nobody seeing that match thought he would lose. in fact I turned it off because there was no question in my mind. the problem for murray is he can't seem to beat 34 year olds.

 

[Mainad]

he got down two sets to love against the frenchman and nobody seeing that match thought he would lose. in fact I turned it off because there was no question in my mind. the problem for murray is he can't seem to beat 34 year olds.

I think there's only one 34 year old who is currently presenting any problems for him!

 

[dlk]

He could also be in trouble (as I forgot to mention and others have since astutely pointed out) if he plays like this and Stan finds his slam winning form.

Too many stipulations. Who do you have money on (rhetorical)?

 

[dlk]

I'm a Murray fan, but I can see he has zero chance of adding to his list of major titles if he continues playing this negative crap.

"Negative crap?" He looks good to me, even his serve is a little better (not second, per usual). Maybe I'm not the tennis expert that everyone else is, but he's #3 in the World, he got there by playing the style he does. If anyone thinks they have superior advice for him, maybe they should contact his camp & offer their insightful knowledge

 

[Rjtennis]

No just making a point. It's an awful lot of winners for a pusher. Because Murray's able to get to more shots and keep a rally going which Federer would not be able to that means he's a pusher, rather than he utilizes all his armoury to keep things going even when the point looks lost People love to point to winners stats as an indication of aggression, so I thought I'd point out that if he's getting more winners then Fed, then he can't be that much a pusher. Obviously I'm not saying he's more aggressive than Federer, but people who are just pushers don't get as many winners as that.

Can't believe I had to explain that, but there we go.

Most of his winners in that last match were off of passing shots, lobs, etc.

 

[Steve0904]

Too many stipulations. Who do you have money on (rhetorical)?

Two stipulations is a lot now? Anyway, I'd back Murray just because I know he's more consistent, but you know as well as I do that Stan can beat Murray.

50/50 match really.

 

[Slice'n'dice]

Most of his winners in that last match were off of passing shots, lobs, etc.

and drop shots, return winners, and more. Yeah you know the way winners are scored by players.

 

[Rjtennis]

"Negative crap?" He looks good to me, even his serve is a little better (not second, per usual). Maybe I'm not the tennis expert that everyone else is, but he's #3 in the World, he got there by playing the style he does. If anyone thinks they have superior advice for him, maybe they should contact his camp & offer their insightful knowledge

Everyone is the tennis world has been begging him to play more aggressive for years, it's not exactly a a radical thought. He is #3 in the world and he has still underachieved given his talent. He has watched Novak stack grand slam trophy's and become an all-time great by improving his second serve and being more aggressive. You'd think Murray would have tried to follow suit after seeing Nole flourish but it's been more of the same.

 

[Rjtennis]

and drop shots, return winners, and more. Yeah you know the way winners are scored by players.

I'm trying to say that the last match Murray was pretty dang defensive. However, Belluci was spraying balls so that was probably the right approach for that particular match

 

[dlk]

Everyone is the tennis world has been begging him to play more aggressive for years, it's not exactly a a radical thought. He is #3 in the world and he has still underachieved given his talent. He has watched Novak stack grand slam trophy's and become an all-time great by improving his second serve and being more aggressive. You'd think Murray would have tried to follow suit after seeing Nole flourish but it's been more of the same.

I do agree, he should spend the majority of his practice serving. But I'm okay with the low-risk ground game; I like the way he changes speeds of shots & runs everything down. Don't think he's as good as Novak, but he probably has one or two more Slams if he serves at least like Novak.

 

[West Coast Ace]

More people who've never been to live tennis. It's moving harder with more top on than you can imagine.

Murray is fine. He's working points, moving his opponents around, winning.

Having said that, his level isn't as good as it was when he won the majors and gold - so he'll have to improve to beat Stan, Fed, Djokovic.

 

[dlk]

More people who've never been to live tennis. It's moving harder with more top on than you can imagine.

Murray is fine. He's working points, moving his opponents around, winning.

Having said that, his level isn't as good as it was when he won the majors and gold - so he'll have to improve to beat Stan, Fed, Djokovic.

Who can even see the ball, at a live match? The ball is a blur

 

[britam25]

I keep hearing about the "he's # 3 in the world," stuff. Yes, he is, but, presumably, he has aspirations for a "higher office," and he's on a 1-13 run against the 2 guys ahead of him, so, obviously, something needs to be changed. More aggression is part of it, but that weak ass second serve isn't likely to go away anytime soon.