Nadal vs. the One-Handed Backhand

[Im(moral) Winner]

Actually Gaudio leads the Clay H2H, but how old was Rafa, like 13?

https://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/fedex-head-2-head/gaston-gaudio-vs-rafael-nadal/G374/N409

For Gaudio's shame Stuttgart 2005 was a clay tournament. Age is no excuse according to VB.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

2015 Nadal is about like 2017 Djokovic or 2013 Fed. It’s the absolute worst version.

Before the emergence of Stanimal in 2014 AO final, Nadal was 12-0 against Stan. He had won 26/26 sets against him as well!

Doesn't mean much when it comes to Stan. He was 16-2 against Novak before AO 2014.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Doesn't mean much when it comes to Stan. He was 16-2 against Novak before AO 2014.

He still can’t bother Fed

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

He still can’t bother Fed

Yeah, Fed wasn't bothered at the AO last year by him at all.

 

[heninfan99]

2015 Nadal is about like 2017 Djokovic or 2013 Fed. It’s the absolute worst version.

Before the emergence of Stanimal in 2014 AO final, Nadal was 12-0 against Stan. He had won 26/26 sets against him as well!

All pros have injuries and niggles. Not just Nadal & Fed & Djoker. If you lace up to play it is what it is.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

All pros have injuries and niggles. Not just Nadal & Fed & Djoker. If you lace up to play it is what it is.

So Fed was at his very best vs. Stakhovsky in 2013? Peak Fed?

 

[heninfan99]

So Fed was at his very best vs. Stakhovsky in 2013? Peak Fed?

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You fanboys make too many excuses. If you lace em up for battle then you are ready to compete.

 

[Plamen1234]

7-1 vs. Grigor
23-11 vs. Roger

I think he will punish the 1HBH again in the next few days. Pound it into submission.

"Pound it into submission" - Well I think the opposite happened in 2017.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

AO 2017

Faster, low bouncing courts neutralize the advantage tremendously. Also, Fed has developed a high risk/high reward strategy of taking the ball as early as possible on the BH in anticipation of Nadal’s usual tactics.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

"Pound it into submission" - Well I think the opposite happened in 2017.

Haha well Fed proved a lot of us wrong in that match (and in 2017). Kudos to him! It was brilliant!

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Is Tsitsipas the next victim of this violence?

 

[SeeingDusk]

Is Tsitsipas the next victim of this violence?

why does nadal look so small in your pic?

 

[bezs]

Help us Tsitsipas you're our only hope.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

why does nadal look so small in your pic?

He was probably like 14

 

[Meles]

Is Tsitsipas the next victim of this violence?

Well actually one-handed backhands have a better record against Nadal on clay than two.
lost 14 of 147 vs one-hand. 23 of 286 versus two-hand on clay.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Well actually one-handed backhands have a better record against Nadal on clay than two.
lost 14 of 147 vs one-hand. 23 of 286 versus two-hand on clay.

Wow. Can you list the 14 matches? How many were in the train wreck of 2015?

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Tsitsipas about to become the next victim tomorrow...

Nadal 6-3, 6-2.

 

[ICanBeSerious]

Do you have an update number of wins for 1HBH guys vs Rafa, except fedr?
1 Almagro
3 Stan
1 Dimi
3 Gonzo
3 Gaudio
1 Kohl
3 Thiem
1 Shapo
4 Lopez

Other?

 

[thomasferrett]

So Thiem and Tsitsipas have both beaten Nadal on clay this year. Why aren't all 2hbh players ranked around those guys (like Anderson, Isner and Nishikori) bossing Nadal around on clay if they have 2hbh that are so strong against Nadal's forehand vs the 1hbh?

 

[Bill W]

So Thiem and Tsitsipas have both beaten Nadal on clay this year. Why aren't all 2hbh players ranked around those guys (like Anderson, Isner and Nishikori) bossing Nadal around on clay if they have 2hbh that are so strong against Nadal's forehand vs the 1hbh?

Because that's a marginal excuse at best. It's more about the player than the type of backhand they possess.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

So Thiem and Tsitsipas have both beaten Nadal on clay this year. Why aren't all 2hbh players ranked around those guys (like Anderson, Isner and Nishikori) bossing Nadal around on clay if they have 2hbh that are so strong against Nadal's forehand vs the 1hbh?

Before today Thiem was the only 1HBH to beat Nadal on clay since 2016.

 

[falstaff78]

Being one-handed gives you a significant advantage v Nadal on clay and grass. (And on hard courts, it's only a minor disadvantage.)

Nadal vs OHBH on clay: 138-17 (W/L = 8)
Nadal vs THBH on clay: 269-22 (W/L = 12)

Nadal vs OHBH on grass: 9-8 (W/L = 1.1)
Nadal vs THBH on grass: 56-11 (W/L = 5.1)

Nadal vs OHBH on hard: 130-35 (W/L = 3.7)
Nadal vs THBH on hard: 305-94 (W/L = 3.2)

I love it when facts get in the way of a good stereotype!

 

[falstaff78]

Roughly the same trend holds true for top players

Nadal vs top 10 OHBH on clay: 29-8 (W/L = 3.6)
Nadal vs top 10 THBH on clay: 58-11 (W/L = 5.3)

Nadal vs top 10 OHBH on grass: 1-2 (W/L = 0.5)
Nadal vs top 10 THBH on grass: 8-1 (W/L = 8.0)

Nadal vs top 10 OHBH on hard: 22-14 (W/L = 1.6)
Nadal vs top 10 THBH on hard: 43-52 (W/L = 0.8)

 

[beard]

@Tennis_Hands
Please explain this...
Remember when you were talking how Federer's ohbh is his disadvantage against Nadal so he was not able to be better in "bad matchup"...

Excuses, excuses....excuses everywhere

Anyway, I am bookmarking this data and will paste it whenever Fed fans use ohbh as excuse...
Thanks @falstaff78 for great data...

 

[Tennis_Hands]

@Tennis_Hands
Please explain this...
Remember when you were talking how Federer's ohbh is his disadvantage against Nadal so he was not able to be better in "bad matchup"...

Excuses, excuses....excuses everywhere

Anyway, I am bookmarking this data and will paste it whenever Fed fans use ohbh as excuse...
Thanks @falstaff78 for great data...

I didn't understand what I have to explain.

 

[beard]

Posts 72 and 73 where is obvious that Nadal is better against thbh than against ohbk... So being ohbh player as Fed is not disadvantage in matchup with Nadal...

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

Do you have an update number of wins for 1HBH guys vs Rafa, except fedr?
1 Almagro
3 Stan
1 Dimi
3 Gonzo
3 Gaudio
1 Kohl
3 Thiem
1 Shapo
4 Lopez

Other?

...
1 mahut
2 ljubicic
1 berrer
1 darcis
1 garcia-lopez
1 zeballos
1 cuevas
4 youzhny
3 blake
1 guccione
1 waske
1 calleri
1 johansson (pimpim)
1 ascione
1 srichaphan
2 corretja
1 rochus
1 tsitsipas

 

[Tshooter]

...
1 mahut
2 ...
...
1 tsitsipas

VAMOS must have blown you off on an autograph and you never got over it.

VAMOS !

 

[ICanBeSerious]

Posts 72 and 73 where is obvious that Nadal is better against thbh than against ohbk... So being ohbh player as Fed is not disadvantage in matchup with Nadal...

lol, he just happened to play with more 2HBH players in his career, 2x or 3x more... If he played more players 1HBH where do you think the rate would stand?
So every coach, specialist, pro players and Federer himself stating the obvious, that is 1HBH is bad matchup against high balls and Nadal's play are ignorant. Have you played 1 min of tennis?

 

[beard]

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[beard]

lol, he just happened to play with more 2HBH players in his career, 2x or 3x more... If he played more players 1HBH where do you think the rate would stand?
So every coach, specialist, pro players and Federer himself stating the obvious, that is 1HBH is bad matchup against high balls and Nadal's play are ignorant. Have you played 1 min of tennis?

You have no clue about statistics... Nadal played 337 matches against ohbh which is 31.2%, and quite enought to have valid conclusions... ohbh players have better results against Nadal that thbh... Fed is exception, and he spoils ohbh players stats... Damn you Fedeter, you really sucks

 

[Nadalgaenger]

7-1 vs. Grigor
23-11 vs. Roger

I think he will punish the 1HBH again in the next few days. Pound it into submission.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa

 

[BeatlesFan]

Do you have an update number of wins for 1HBH guys vs Rafa, except fedr?
1 Almagro
3 Stan
1 Dimi
3 Gonzo
3 Gaudio
1 Kohl
3 Thiem
1 Shapo
4 Lopez

Other?

Yes, how about James Blake, his H2H against Rafa was 3-4 and he was a one-hander on the BH.