Nadal was silly to play Queens
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Bionic Poster
Yeah, good call.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Queens had nothing to do with it. He destroyed Murray after a slight blip and was playing great tennis. Djokovic was just too good as he has been 4 other times this season. Excuses are pathetic when a guy beats you 5 finals with the loss of 3 sets. that's 11 sets to 3 across all surfaces.
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He seems to be heading further and further away from the answer, it seems.
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
wierd, since he just won a set today, for the first time in 3 meetings...
BUT MOVING AWAY, U SAY?
That wasn't a set. That was Djokovic's losing concentration on the big occasion. Djokovic is known to give away sets like those - watch his match against Federer at the USO 2010.
FedExpress117
Rookie
He's beaten him 5 times this year............. does he have to beat him 8.3333 (repeating of course) for you all to stop making excuses?
He didn't destroy Murray, Murray's level collapsed.
He did look exhausted, I think the match against Del Potro was key, really wore him out, and with hindsight he should have skipped Queen's.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
6-2 6-2 is being destroyed.
Tired, injured, blah blah blah..
Djokovic is probably the most mentally tired player out there with everything he has achieved (that was Nadal's excuse at the US Open 2008 wasn't it?)
Really he should have beaten Delpo (grass novice) more easily, and if two or three matches at queens ruin your chances at wimbledon then you're not much of a player. nadal IS a great player, hence the queens excuse is not valid. Djokovic had NO preperation on grass becuase he skipped queens.
I'm not making excuses for anyone, I'm saying Nadal looked exhausted out there. Why are you bringing up the US Open in 2008? He also played poorly, by his standards, and if he hadn't played Queen's he might have been fresher.
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
because it's always one thing or another with Nadal, in 2008 he was mentally tired... well Djokovic probably is too.
Ok he might have been fresher if he skipped queens, he also might have been rusty and lost at Wimbledon because of it. Whatever he did regarding queens, he was going to lose today.
He DID play poorly by his standards, but for the same reason Federer plays poorly against him. He is playing someone who is beating him all the time and the pressure makes you game go wrong.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
So how long is he going to take?
Wasn't he supposed to "figure out" Nole by the time clay season rolled around?
Then at Rome, he was supposed to teach the Serb a lesson on "real clay".
Grass season came and went and Nadal STILL hasn't beaten him even though he is supposedly playing better on grass than on clay this year (refer to thread in General Discussion).
This "Djokovic puzzle" sure is taking a while for the masterminds of the Nadal camp.....
Homeboy Hotel
Hall of Fame
I am sure (but I really hope not) Nadal will beat Djokovic sometime this year, and when that happens all the Nadal fans will be like,
'OH MY GOD RAFA IS BACK!! HE BEAT DJOKOVIC HE IS THE BEST EVER, HE PROVED ALL OF YOU WRONG - KING OF GRASS RAFA IS BACKK, HE OWNS NOVAK!111!!1!1'
...when really Djokovic has and will always have the upper hand in 2011 and hopefully for the rest of their careers with all these wins this year.
I hope the h2h of Nadal v Djokovic will slowly go into Novak's favour by 2012.
'OH MY GOD RAFA IS BACK!! HE BEAT DJOKOVIC HE IS THE BEST EVER, HE PROVED ALL OF YOU WRONG - KING OF GRASS RAFA IS BACKK, HE OWNS NOVAK!111!!1!1'
...when really Djokovic has and will always have the upper hand in 2011 and hopefully for the rest of their careers with all these wins this year.
I hope the h2h of Nadal v Djokovic will slowly go into Novak's favour by 2012.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Nadal will just have to keep trying. That's all he can do.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
I know he will, but his problems against Nole now seem to go beyond any strategy or game plan.
That's the hardest obstacle to overcome for any player.
http://tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=13067&zoneid=25
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Oh for god's sake. Please!!!!! Do you think reasonable intelligent people could actually believe this excuse. Come on.
Djokovic has outplayed Nadal technically and mentally their past five meetings. That is it. There is no magic involved here. As Mustard says above, it is up to Nadal to try and figure out the riddle that is Djokovic now. End of story.
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decades
Guest
what about the year he won queens and wimby? why didn't that make him tired? this is hilarious.
FedExpress117
Rookie
No. Djokovic must beat Nadal 8.3333 (repeating of course) times before we all stop making excuses. For the 6th time, I'll say it was b/c of knees. For the 7th time, bad memories from Wimbledon. For the 8th time, something was in his eye. For the 8.333 time, we'll all give up.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
:grin::grin:
Nadal had a virus one of the times he was beaten previously but you probably ignored that. So how did he go on to win the FO and beat the man who beat Djokovic. I don't think Djokovic played any different to Federer when he was beaten in 2008. In fact most people are still saying that was the very best match. Yes it is good for tennis to see a new face and I would hate Rafa to become a dead cert because that can kill the excitement of what the tennis game is all about and makes it unique
Rickenbacker4003
Hall of Fame
I don't think Queens had anything to do with what happened. He played like 2 matches or something. He always goes there to get ready for the bounce of the grass courts. He played really well at this Wimbledon. Beating Del Potro and Murray before running into God mode Joker.
Rickenbacker4003
Hall of Fame
There's no secret. Joker for this year has elevated his game above everyone else's. I doubt he can do better than he is doing now and I doubt he can keep playing like this too. That would mean he won't lose another match this year. Imagine the points he's gonna have to defend next year.
namelessone
Legend
LMAO.
Nadal would have been WORSE at WB with no grass practice matches beforehand.
Nadal would have been WORSE at WB with no grass practice matches beforehand.
cc0509
Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe you were sleeping but Djokovic had defeated Nadal 4 times in a row previous to Wimbledon. Was Nadal sick or tired in those matches too? I must admit I too thought Nadal had the edge because it was Novak's worse surface on grass and Nadal had previously defeated Nadal in best of 5 sets, however after this Wimbledon beat down I am pretty confident Novak will win in future meetings unless Nadal can come up with a game plan. Also Nadal is mentally weak with Djokovic. That is a big factor which is hard to ignore.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Eh, can't see the comparison or relevance, last time Fed played Queens was in 1999.
ViscaB
Hall of Fame
Murrayfan31
Hall of Fame
Without Queens, Nadal wouldn't even get to the finals. Similar to Fed.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
He has been looking tired since winning the USO 2010. His energy at all tournaments this year has been much much lower even when he is winning. Hell, even Federer had his best show ever against Nadal at the FO.
Yes during his interviews prior to the FO Nadal said he had a virus which came back and he found it hard to get rid of. A mental block regarding Djokovic? Hasn't looked like it up until Wimbledon. It is not me that said Nadal looked tired at Wimbledon it was Pat Cash
aphex
Banned
Yep. It's like the time he was trying to flush injury out of his knees by
playing on hard courts.
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