Nadal withdraws from WTF 2017

[noobforehand20]

man there will be plenty of salt these two months if fed wins undefeated, it will be worse than in 2015

 

[BGod]

Fed shouldn't play Brisbane just to get #1 for 2 weeks and risk losing it at AO. Are some of you insane? Roger will only have to finish better than Nadal there and frankly I don't expect much from him there. Certainly not a final again.

 

[NEW_BORN]

Get well soon Lafa, will miss watching your beautiful attacking tennis on an indoor hard court.

 

[tennisaddict]

Federer the same for skipping clay.
Fedal partisanship is really disgusting.

Fed is coming off a 6 month layoff , is 36 years old and a full 5 years older than Rafa. Not the same story by any means.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Federer is not playing Brisbane, he’s playing the Hopman Cup. Federer did everything he could to keep from taking over the no. 1 ranking and you guys are still find ways for him to be no. 1.

With any luck he comes to his senses and plays Brisbane. I wonder about Fed sometimes - his scheduling needs work, even if it's improved the last year or two.

A genuine shot at oldest #1 and he'll let it slip to mess around with Hingis and Pat Rafter or something in Perth?
Lame, Roger. Lame. He's going senile if he wins this undefeated and doesn't play Brisbane.

 

[tacou]

Uggh, but the Hopman cup doesn't give him points right? This is a glorified Exo.

Is that at the same time or could he play that and Brisbane.

This could be Fed's best/last chance.

If doesn't win AO, Miami and Indian Wells then Nadal is likely to gain ground before the clay court season (Dubai not withstanding)

hopman >>>> brisbane

 

[Steve0904]

Fed shouldn't play Brisbane just to get #1 for 2 weeks and risk losing it at AO. Are some of you insane? Roger will only have to finish better than Nadal there and frankly I don't expect much from him there. Certainly not a final again.

No. He has to finish better by a margin that covers the 800 pt difference between a F and a W.

So for example, even if Federer made the SF of the upcoming AO and Nadal lost in the 1st RD, Federer would still lose more points than Nadal since a SF is only 720 points in a slam.

That's a loss of 1280 points for Federer and only 1200 (or I believe 1190) for Nadal. So Nadal would still be #1 after the AO.

 

[augustobt]

This is so good. We won't be seeing octomom and the worst part of the VB until april.

 

[Sudacafan]

Fed is coming off a 6 month layoff , is 36 years old and a full 5 years older than Rafa. Not the same story by any means.

I know that, but still.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

The physical toll and the amount of the tournaments needed to maintain the no. 1 that’s what my statements means. Federer doesn’t want to play that many tournaments. No clay and no. 1 ranking.

Yeah but he can likely play a crummy 250 in Queensland and get it despite being semi-retired. That's how good his results per tournament have been.
He'd be mad not to go for it.

 

[fedtennisphan]

Yeah but he can likely play a crummy 250 in Queensland and get it despite being semi-retired. That's how good his results per tournament have been.
He'd be mad not to go for it.

Unfortunately for you, Federer is not that pressed.

 

[fedtennisphan]

With any luck he comes to his senses and plays Brisbane. I wonder about Fed sometimes - his scheduling needs work, even if it's improved the last year or two.

A genuine shot at oldest #1 and he'll let it slip to mess around with Hingis and Pat Rafter or something in Perth?
Lame, Roger. Lame. He's going senile if he wins this undefeated and doesn't play Brisbane.

I tell you are not a Federer fan with these statements. Also a real Federer fan would know that Federer is playing Belinda Bencic not Hingis at the Hopman Cup.

 

[abmk]

I know - but he doesn't need to play Brisbane to get #1 back in January. Anyway, it seems clear that he's not that bothered about #1 at this stage.

actually its not that he's not bothered about #1.
He did seriously want it after Wimbledon this year and he stated so, but the back injury ruined his chances and he didn't want to risk his body further by going after it -- when it was a long shot.

If he wins the YEC undefeated, he'll be only 140 points behind Nadal.
I don't see a real good reason to play Hopman Cup instead of Brisbane in that scenario, when he can get to #1.
.

 

[Shaolin]

Wise decision. Two majors and the year-end #1. That's what it's all about.

Still hasn't patched the gaping hole in his resume.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

With this Nadal has officially turned into a joke.

What a single year can mean for the history of the sport!

 

[The Harkleroad]

7.07 Play-Up Regulation (ATP Challenger Tour Tournaments)

A. Restrictions

1) Players positioned 1-10 in the Emirates ATP Rankings twenty-one (21) days prior to the first Monday of the ATP Challenger Tour tournament are prohibited from entering, accepting a wild card and/or competing in an ATP Challenger Tour tournament.​

Only 1-10?

Should be 1-32 at least. I feel like if you are good enough to be seeded in the Slams, you should not be playing Challengers...

 

[The Harkleroad]

7.07 Play-Up Regulation (ATP Challenger Tour Tournaments)

A. Restrictions

1) Players positioned 1-10 in the Emirates ATP Rankings twenty-one (21) days prior to the first Monday of the ATP Challenger Tour tournament are prohibited from entering, accepting a wild card and/or competing in an ATP Challenger Tour tournament.​

Only 1-10?

Should be 1-32 at least. I feel like if you are good enough to be seeded in the Slams, you should not be playing Challengers...

 

[Towser83]

actually its not that he's not bothered about #1.
He did seriously want it after Wimbledon this year and he stated so, but the back injury ruined his chances and he didn't want to risk his body further by going after it -- when it was a long shot.

If he wins the YEC undefeated, he'll be only 140 points behind Nadal.
I don't see a real good reason to play Hopman Cup instead of Brisbane in that scenario, when he can get to #1.
.

He'd look like he was going all out for the number one which he would and I doubt Federer will do this. He could have played Paris and got a chance of it but he didn't, he's got more weeks at number one than anyone. I believe Federer will always look at number one as a by product of winning events and that is his main focus. He doesn't want brisbane, he just wants a warm up for the AO. Nadal has killed his knees to get number one, I don't expect Federer to alter his schedule or play when not fit to do that

 

[Shank Volley]

Nah not really. People like Davydenko and Nalbandian has won it in the past, and they aren’t exactly hall of fame.

It’s also only played indoors...

Wimbledon is only played on grass. RG is only played on clay. What's your point?

 

[fedtennisphan]

actually its not that he's not bothered about #1.
He did seriously want it after Wimbledon this year and he stated so, but the back injury ruined his chances and he didn't want to risk his body further by going after it -- when it was a long shot.

If he wins the YEC undefeated, he'll be only 140 points behind Nadal.
I don't see a real good reason to play Hopman Cup instead of Brisbane in that scenario, when he can get to #1.
.

Federer is not breaking his “commitment” to the Hopman Cup to play Brisbane.

 

[abmk]

He'd look like he was going all out for the number one which he would and I doubt Federer will do this. He could have played Paris and got a chance of it but he didn't, he's got more weeks at number one than anyone. I believe Federer will always look at number one as a by product of winning events and that is his main focus. He doesn't want brisbane, he just wants a warm up for the AO. Nadal has killed his knees to get number one, I don't expect Federer to alter his schedule or play when not fit to do that

well, he'd already played Shanghai and Basel and had to focus on the YEC coming up as well. That's why he skipped Paris.

 

[natalia]

Nadal quits Paris and then quits London - very opportunistic, to say the least.

 

[roysid]

As a Federer fan, I'm pissed off. It's obvious he started quiting from Paris and then London with little pain and when #1 is secured.
If Federer had played in Paris, Nadal would have gone all the way in both tournaments.

Fed should have made an appearance in Paris to keep the pressure on.

And next year Fed need to win the Australian again and Nadal doesn't reach the final to be #1. A tall order.

It's a shame if Fed doesn't get to #1 after a season like this.

 

[roysid]

As a Federer fan, I'm pissed off. It's obvious he started quiting from Paris and then London with little pain and when #1 is secured.
If Federer had played in Paris, Nadal would have gone all the way in both tournaments.

Fed should have made an appearance in Paris to keep the pressure on.

And next year Fed need to win the Australian again and Nadal doesn't reach the final to be #1. A tall order.

It's a shame if Fed doesn't get to #1 after a season like this.

 

[Steve0904]

As a Federer fan, I'm pissed off. It's obvious he started quiting from Paris and then London with little pain and when #1 is secured.
If Federer had played in Paris, Nadal would have gone all the way in both tournaments.

Fed should have made an appearance in Paris to keep the pressure on.

And next year Fed need to win the Australian again and Nadal doesn't reach the final to be #1. A tall order.

It's a shame if Fed doesn't get to #1 after a season like this.

If he goes undefeated here he could play a 250 before the AO and get it that way.

 

[Towser83]

well, he'd already played Shanghai and Basel and had to focus on the YEC coming up as well. That's why he skipped Paris.

I just think if he's signed up for hopman cup, he'll play it. Maybe if he feels in good shape he'll play another event as well but I doubt it.

 

[Johnnypeacock]

Yes his presser was just on Sky

"Merry Xmas everyone and see you next year" lol

That was the line that Nadal was a bit naughty. He just left it as a marker he doesn't actually care about Wtf and the sour faces of the journalists showed they realised Nadal was taking the proverbial.

I predicted Nadal would do exactly as he has done almost to the minute. He will be fresh as a daisy come AO and likely win there with confidence of USO under his belt.

 

[Tennease]

Relax guys. WTF is just a social round-robin exhibition.

Yeah and battle by the border vs San Diego is the Real Slam.

 

[Bartelby]

Titles count more and preserving health is important.

As a Federer fan, I'm pissed off. It's obvious he started quiting from Paris and then London with little pain and when #1 is secured.
If Federer had played in Paris, Nadal would have gone all the way in both tournaments.

Fed should have made an appearance in Paris to keep the pressure on.

And next year Fed need to win the Australian again and Nadal doesn't reach the final to be #1. A tall order.

It's a shame if Fed doesn't get to #1 after a season like this.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

As a Federer fan, I'm pissed off. It's obvious he started quiting from Paris and then London with little pain and when #1 is secured.
If Federer had played in Paris, Nadal would have gone all the way in both tournaments.

Fed should have made an appearance in Paris to keep the pressure on.

And next year Fed need to win the Australian again and Nadal doesn't reach the final to be #1. A tall order.

It's a shame if Fed doesn't get to #1 after a season like this.

As a Federer fan I am completely satisfied with the fact that within a single year Federer has reduced Nadal to his deserved position and made him run away from a fight.

A thing that was unthinkable in the minds of many people at the beginning of this year.

Merry early Christmas to everyone!

 

[roysid]

he could play Brisbane and skip the Hopman cup.

Really I believe that should be done. Rafa plays Brisbane with 45 points to defend. So if Fed plays Brisbane and wins he's all but guaranteed to be #1

 

[Tennease]

This is so good. We won't be seeing octomom and the worst part of the VB until april.

More fishing pics in NN 2.0 ?

 

[roysid]

As a Federer fan I am completely satisfied with the fact that within a single year Federer has reduced Nadal to his deserved position and made him run away from a fight.

A thing that was unthinkable in the minds of many people at the beginning of this year.

Merry early Christmas to everyone!

I agree with all above but getting the #1 would have made it complete. There's always next year. But Fed had to win Australia and maybe Dubai to clinch it back

 

[Deleted member 688153]

I tell you are not a Federer fan with these statements. Also a real Federer fan would know that Federer is playing Belinda Bencic not Hingis at the Hopman Cup.

Haha dude I'm one of the biggest Fed diehards on here. Fedr is life. I literally made the Fed news thread ffs. I'm just not a hater of other players lol

Are you a Federer fan? Making the rest of us look bad on here is getting tiring. Chill. Please.

 

[Tennease]

THIS, FOLKS, IS THE GREAT FORFEIT !!!!

NO EXCUSES !!!!

 

[fedtennisphan]

As a Federer fan I am completely satisfied with the fact that within a single year Federer has reduced Nadal to his deserved position and made him run away from a fight.

A thing that was unthinkable in the minds of many people at the beginning of this year.

Merry early Christmas to everyone!

You forgot to add causing Nadal fans to make sour grapes comments about the WTF and overconfident comments about Nadal winning the AO.

 

[Johnnypeacock]

As a Federer fan I am completely satisfied with the fact that within a single year Federer has reduced Nadal to his deserved position and made him run away from a fight.

A thing that was unthinkable in the minds of many people at the beginning of this year.

Merry early Christmas to everyone!

Nadal is no.1. Again Federer has ended up behind Nadal. As for running away, I'm sure Federer skipped the whole clay court season. In light of this I assume you are a Nadal fan engaging in satire lol.

 

[Tennease]

If his knee was in pain, why didn't he wear any tape on the knee?

 

[Tennis_Hands]

I agree with all above but getting the #1 would have made it complete. There's always next year. But Fed had to win Australia and maybe Dubai to clinch it back

Federer can do it, if he really wants it.

Apparently it is not his priority any more and he has built a comfortable lead in that category to not be bothered to pay attention.

Federer's year has been out of this world and the only mentioning in relation to Nadal should be the that he utterly destroyed the myths about the spaniard.

 

[fedtennisphan]

Haha dude I'm one of the biggest Fed diehards on here. Fedr is life. I literally made the Fed news thread ffs. I'm just not a hater of other players lol

Are you a Federer fan? Making the rest of us look bad on here is getting tiring. Chill. Please.

Your fandom is BS because otherwise you would have known that Federer was playing with Bencic at the Hopman Cup. Hingis is not the only Swiss female player. I don’t care what you made on the forum, that doesn’t mean you’re not full of ****. Most of the “fans” talk out their ***, so don’t tell me to Chill and I am not your Dude.

 

[augustobt]

THIS, FOLKS, IS THE GREAT FORFEIT !!!!

NO EXCUSES !!!!

90's Clay was wright all along

 

[ChaelAZ]

Your fandom is BS because otherwise you would have known that Federer was playing with Bencic at the Hopman Cup. Hingis is not the only Swiss female player. I don’t care what you made on the forum, that doesn’t mean you’re not full of ****. Most of the “fans” talk out their ***, so don’t tell me to Chill and I am not your Dude.

Lol. Serious angst. [emoji38][emoji23]


Probably posting from the court between sets.

 

[ChaelAZ]

Your fandom is BS because otherwise you would have known that Federer was playing with Bencic at the Hopman Cup. Hingis is not the only Swiss female player. I don’t care what you made on the forum, that doesn’t mean you’re not full of ****. Most of the “fans” talk out their ***, so don’t tell me to Chill and I am not your Dude.

Lol. Serious angst. [emoji38][emoji23]


Probably posting from the court between sets.

 

[Incognito]

Nadal was always going to pull out. I think I posted he would a few days back.

Nadal really has little interest in wtf. He will say all the right things but his cheeky merry Christmas at end of pressed was a clue to his real feelings. He got YE1, satisfied the sponsors by turning up, now can have a nice holiday. Well deserved for the years best player.

Well he didn’t participate the other 5 times he qualified so why not a 6th time. Rafa did it for the alternates those years, and this year, PCB is grateful.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Nadal is no.1. Again Federer has ended up behind Nadal. As for running away, I'm sure Federer skipped the whole clay court season. In light of this I assume you are a Nadal fan engaging in satire lol.

Despite of Nadal's YE #1 Federer has more weeks as #1 and more YE #1, so you are a little confused as far as your statements are concerned.

Federer missed the clay season due to his age and wear and tear.

Nadal started and left two consecutive tournaments with no viable explanation.

He doesn't have an injury and hasn't played that many matches.

You fail.

 

[fedtennisphan]

Lol. Serious angst. [emoji38][emoji23]


Probably posting from the court between sets.

Not quite. But I know that you only need to hit the Post Reply once so you don’t get the double post.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Nadal is no.1. Again Federer has ended up behind Nadal. As for running away, I'm sure Federer skipped the whole clay court season. In light of this I assume you are a Nadal fan engaging in satire lol.

I'm comfortable with Nadal leading on points. He played a full calendar and many more events than Fed. He deserves it.

It's titles I care about. Fed has a gritty AO win (over Nadal no less), the big trophy (Wimbledon), and some nice Masters wins including the difficult IW-Miami double. And that's not even mentioning a possible WTF win.

He also (likely) finishes the year in great form and shape, having not ruined his body playing everything under the sun. I'm happy.

 

[True Fanerer]

Your fandom is BS because otherwise you would have known that Federer was playing with Bencic at the Hopman Cup. Hingis is not the only Swiss female player. I don’t care what you made on the forum, that doesn’t mean you’re not full of ****. Most of the “fans” talk out their ***, so don’t tell me to Chill and I am not your Dude.

Seriously you're making all of us look bad. This is nothing new either

 

[octobrina10]

Nadal is no.1. Again Federer has ended up behind Nadal. As for running away, I'm sure Federer skipped the whole clay court season. In light of this I assume you are a Nadal fan engaging in satire lol.

You are correct, Rafa is the 2017 Year-End ATP World Tour No. 1:

 

[Federev]

Nadal was always going to pull out. I think I posted he would a few days back.

Nadal really has little interest in wtf. He will say all the right things but his cheeky merry Christmas at end of pressed was a clue to his real feelings. He got YE1, satisfied the sponsors by turning up, now can have a nice holiday. Well deserved for the years best player.

Why did he play???

He already had #1.

He could have given someone else a chance to do well and have a great experience.

Seems lame to me. Uncool Bull.

 

[helterskelter]

If he were deciding now, sure. But he has promised to play the Hopman cup and may regard keeping a promise as a good reason. Besides, if he enters Brisbane, nothing is stopping Nadal from entering Doha. And many regard year-end #1 as more important than #1 on January 8th. I am one of that multitude. No idea whether Federer is but it is a distinct possibility.

actually its not that he's not bothered about #1.
He did seriously want it after Wimbledon this year and he stated so, but the back injury ruined his chances and he didn't want to risk his body further by going after it -- when it was a long shot.

If he wins the YEC undefeated, he'll be only 140 points behind Nadal.
I don't see a real good reason to play Hopman Cup instead of Brisbane in that scenario, when he can get to #1.
.

 

[Johnnypeacock]

I'm comfortable with Nadal leading on points. He played a full calendar and many more events than Fed. He deserves it.

It's titles I care about. Fed has a gritty AO win (over Nadal no less), the big trophy (Wimbledon), and some nice Masters wins including the difficult IW-Miami double. And that's not even mentioning a possible WTF win.

He also (likely) finishes the year in great form and shape, having not ruined his body playing everything under the sun. I'm happy.

You don't sound it as you keep,posting on here on Nadal threads . After USO I haven't seen a happy Federer fan on other forums and it's the same here. The USO and FO were really hard to bear I think for some for different reasons.

As for Nadal I doubt he is injured. He has never bothered about WTF so now has his excuse in for his well earned holiday.

 

[Johnnypeacock]

You are correct, Rafa is the 2017 Year-End ATP World Tour No. 1:

That is a beautiful site. Great picture. Tells the story of the year.

 

[Johnnypeacock]

You are correct, Rafa is the 2017 Year-End ATP World Tour No. 1:

That is a beautiful site.

Why did he play???

He already had #1.

He could have given someone else a chance to do well and have a great experience.

Seems lame to me. Uncool Bull.

to satisfy corporate sponsors as world no.1 . Nadal hinted his year was done after USO.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Quick comparison of the matches they played between Federer and Nadal in their season when both turned 31:

Federer played 83 matches: W-L 71-12

Nadal played 78 matches: W-L 67-11

Tell me about the Nadal overplaying.

 

[Federev]

That is a beautiful site.

to satisfy corporate sponsors as world no.1 . Nadal hinted his year was done after USO.

Great. That's awesome.

Well that make me really admire his decisions now.

In that light Fed pulling out of the whole clay season and not "pretending" to be competitive looks downright grown up.

 

[Federev]

That is a beautiful site.

to satisfy corporate sponsors as world no.1 . Nadal hinted his year was done after USO.

Great. That's awesome.

Well that make me really admire his decisions now.

In that light Fed pulling out of the whole clay season and not "pretending" to be competitive looks downright grown up.

You don't sound it as you keep,posting on here on Nadal threads . After USO I haven't seen a happy Federer fan on other forums and it's the same here. The USO and FO were really hard to bear I think for some for different reasons.

As for Nadal I doubt he is injured. He has never bothered about WTF so now has his excuse in for his well earned holiday.

And you're defending this guy?

Kind of sad for his fans.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Your fandom is BS because otherwise you would have known that Federer was playing with Bencic at the Hopman Cup. Hingis is not the only Swiss female player. I don’t care what you made on the forum, that doesn’t mean you’re not full of ****. Most of the “fans” talk out their ***, so don’t tell me to Chill and I am not your Dude.

Just lol at accusing me of being a fake fan. I've been up at 3am watching that Swiss pensioner make history more times than I can remember.
I'm just not totally mental

Quit making octomom look good lol. Take a leaf out of Roger's book and keep it classy. He would be ashamed of some folks if he read this forum.

Also who cares about Hopman Cup

 

[Deleted member 688153]

You don't sound it as you keep,posting on here on Nadal threads . After USO I haven't seen a happy Federer fan on other forums and it's the same here. The USO and FO were really hard to bear I think for some for different reasons.

As for Nadal I doubt he is injured. He has never bothered about WTF so now has his excuse in for his well earned holiday.

So you don't believe your guy? You think he's faking injury because he's afraid of being drubbed by Fed again?

Lame. There is no reason to believe Rafa is lying. He just needs better fans, it would seem.

Enjoy your fourth or fifth account while you can.

 

[roysid]

Federer can do it, if he really wants it.

Apparently it is not his priority any more and he has built a comfortable lead in that category to not be bothered to pay attention.

Federer's year has been out of this world and the only mentioning in relation to Nadal should be the that he utterly destroyed the myths about the spaniard.

It's important to Fed. But not at the cost of health. He himself had said it

 

[fednad]

Nah not really. People like Davydenko and Nalbandian has won it in the past, and they aren’t exactly hall of fame.

It’s also only played indoors...

People like Thomas Johansson have won Aussie Open !
That does not mean Aussie Open loses it's shield.
It is a hole. Not as big as a Major, but it is.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

once again, such a courageous move from the so-called #1

... ¿mission fake#1carrot over, tio? ¿no more indoor spanking needed, no?

... ¡¡¡BACK TO MALLORCA, CHICOS!!!

 

[True Fanerer]

You don't sound it as you keep,posting on here on Nadal threads . After USO I haven't seen a happy Federer fan on other forums and it's the same here. The USO and FO were really hard to bear I think for some for different reasons.

As for Nadal I doubt he is injured. He has never bothered about WTF so now has his excuse in for his well earned holiday.

 

[octobrina10]

Quick comparison of the matches they played between Federer and Nadal in their season when both turned 31:

Federer played 83 matches: W-L 71-12

Nadal played 78 matches: W-L 67-11

Tell me about the Nadal overplaying.

Fed tried hard to become world number one (when he turned 31)... But he did not succeed.

 

[icedevil0289]

well hope he rests up, congrats on a great year. not sure why he entered in the first place.

 

[ChaelAZ]

Fans are a funny bunch.


Probably posting from the court between sets.

 

[ChaelAZ]

Fans are a funny bunch.


Probably posting from the court between sets.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Fed tried hard to become world number one (when he turned 31)... But he did not succeed.

Really?

 

[Sentinel]

Relax guys. WTF is just a social round-robin exhibition.

Then why aren't you there ?






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