andyroddick1
Rookie
Espn covers all of the semis for both men's and women's. Even if ESPN does suck, they show live coverage for ALL time zones unlike NBC. We should be celebrating.
Nbc Gives Up Rights To The Semis Of Wimbledon
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My TV guide shows the same.
BigServer1
Legend
It looks like from 7-12 EST ESPN will have the men's semifinal match(es).
NBC has coverage at 10am (all time zones), so maybe they each have a feature match? Federer will probably be first on Centre and Murray second, so maybe NBC gets Murray? I dunno.
NBC has coverage at 10am (all time zones), so maybe they each have a feature match? Federer will probably be first on Centre and Murray second, so maybe NBC gets Murray? I dunno.
http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/2009/06/big-drop-for-wimbledon-on-nbc.html
Big drop for Wimbledon on NBC.
Wimbledon got off to a rough start on NBC over the weekend.
Third and fourth round coverage of Wimbledon drew a 1.1/3 overnight rating on NBC Saturday afternoon, down 35% from a 1.7/5 for comparable coverage in an earlier timeslot last year, and down 31% from a 1.6/5 in '07.
Taped coverage on Sunday drew a 1.0/2, down 41% from a 1.7/4 in '08, and down 29% from a 1.4/4 in '07.
Overall, NBC averaged a 1.1 overnight rating for coverage of Wimbledon on Saturday and Sunday, the net's lowest average for the first weekend of Wimbledon since at least 1998.
Big drop for Wimbledon on NBC.
Wimbledon got off to a rough start on NBC over the weekend.
Third and fourth round coverage of Wimbledon drew a 1.1/3 overnight rating on NBC Saturday afternoon, down 35% from a 1.7/5 for comparable coverage in an earlier timeslot last year, and down 31% from a 1.6/5 in '07.
Taped coverage on Sunday drew a 1.0/2, down 41% from a 1.7/4 in '08, and down 29% from a 1.4/4 in '07.
Overall, NBC averaged a 1.1 overnight rating for coverage of Wimbledon on Saturday and Sunday, the net's lowest average for the first weekend of Wimbledon since at least 1998.
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
I don't see any changes at all to the coverage.
ESPN comes on at 4:00am PST and must go off at 9:00am PST because that's Noon EST when NBC comes on. Then we get nothing (blacked out) from 9:00am PST to Noon PST when NBC comes on in the West Coast. That's for both Thursday and Friday.
So NBC on both Thursday and Friday is "NOON IN ALL TIME ZONES", as it's always been.
ESPN comes on at 4:00am PST and must go off at 9:00am PST because that's Noon EST when NBC comes on. Then we get nothing (blacked out) from 9:00am PST to Noon PST when NBC comes on in the West Coast. That's for both Thursday and Friday.
So NBC on both Thursday and Friday is "NOON IN ALL TIME ZONES", as it's always been.
BigServer1
Legend
Lmao, just when you think that numbers for Tennis can't get any lower...
1.1 and 1.0...That is incredibly terrible. As a comparison, the US Open Golf broadcast was hurt by the rain delays, but they posted a 3.4 Saturday rating and a 4.7 Sunday rating.
Last seasons Wimbledon Men's Final received a 4.6/12 rating, a 43% jump over the previous final in 07. Somehow I see those numbers plummeting this year.
federer envies me
Semi-Pro
i agree. the one with darren cahill is actually funny, the big babe one is just plain stupid
tacou
G.O.A.T.
this isn't entirely to do with tennis. NBC is in the shi tter right now, there ratings are terrible constantly.
Antonio Puente
Hall of Fame
It's because, one, Rafa's injured, two, everyone knows Fed will win, and three, no one outside of Britain cares about the Murray angle. I bet the American ratings would have been high for another Fed/Rafa rematch. If Roddick beats Murray, they might be respectable.
andyroddick1
Rookie
In my directv Schedule is shows that ESPN has tennis from 7 ET to 12 ET. That's gotta be enough time for both semis if the first semi doesn't become a 5 hour marathon. Plus ESPN at least finishes the matches it shows.
norbac
Legend
Or maybe the fact that a lot of the coverage was taped had an effect on viewership?
JennyS
Hall of Fame
Yeah just look at what happened to "Heroes." That show's ratings are in the toilet!
BigServer1
Legend
Well...Heroes, The Office and the Tonight Show are all ratings leaders, and Leno's new 10pm show will be a big ratings gatherer as well.
I agree that NBC is struggling overall, but they have some of the brightest spots (ratings wise) on all of television.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
They gave up Wimbledon semi rights this year? I assumed it was starting next year.
tacou
G.O.A.T.
uhh I don't know about that. Office isn't on currently, Heroes has almost been canceled several times, Tonight Show is no longer the #1 in its time slot (though I love Conan much more than Leno) and NBC is the least watched channel; a few weeks ago they didn't place a show in the top 20 on one of the week nights. that's including Fox.
Im pretty sure NBC is doing well with "America's Got Talent" which just started last week, im not sure how many people watched "Im a Celebrity" but i think it did alright as well, so I dont think NBC is the least watched channel, if it wasnt for there horrendous tennis coverage it wud probably b my favorite, but anyways Im really hoping that NBC has given up their rights, I think the only thing they deserve to show is the Finals
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
NBC has announced that they will show the Federer-Karlovic QF match, which means that ESPN will probably be banned from showing that match live so that NBC can show it on tape delay well after it's over since that's the first match on Centre Court tomorrow.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
They banned the right match. What a borefest.
forehand_dude
Rookie
Where did they announce this? (Just curious if this information is available online somewhere.)
BigServer1
Legend
Last time I checked, Conan was .1 ahead of Letterman in the ratings...That could have changed though, I don't check Nielsen weekly.
Yes, the Office isn't on right now, but when it is, it's a top 3 comedy. Heroes went through some trouble, but it does well, and 30 Rock is critically acclaimed, but (for some insane reason, because it's awesome) it struggles in the ratings game.
I also think that AGT will be a big summer boost, and Leno will bring ratings as well coming in the fall. The new Joel McHale comedy looks like it will get some viewers as well.
NBC is in trouble, but it's not quite as bad as everyone makes it seem...
I think FOX should pick up Tennis. At least those guys know how to market sports...
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
Um....NBC has the first right to choose any match they want to show over ESPN and they chose the Federer-Karlovic match. That means they expect bigger ratings for this match than any of the other 3 matches. :-?
BreakPoint
Bionic Poster
NBC mentioned it during their broadcast of the women's quarters today.
FedFan_2009
Banned
As longs as I can get my ESPN360 I'm good.
Slightly off topic. Tennis as a fan's game is in deep trouble, and I do believe the best metric, and possibly the only metric that matters, is TV ratings.
Tennis will fall into oblivion over time if steps are not taken to address this.
I have some rather radical thoughts on this, all going against the sacred tennis traditions. But simply put, I think tennis matches are simply way way too long, and bores the heck of most people watching it, except for the few die hard fans.
FedFan_2009
Banned
Nonsense. TV ratings in America will not decide the future of tennis. TV ratings in all other countries are very good and overall tennis is keeping very solid in revenue. Yes, tennis in America is dying. But so what???
Nadal_Freak
Banned
You can blame that on all their lame players. As long as there are streams, I'm good.
rickwestland
New User
In the last two years, I have twice been declined to have a single TV showing US Open finals in a local Hooter's.
2007 Men's Final, 2008 Women's Final (between William sisters, two Americans!)
The excuse for the 2007 Men's final was that it was a Football Day.
2007 Men's Final, 2008 Women's Final (between William sisters, two Americans!)
The excuse for the 2007 Men's final was that it was a Football Day.
You have a point there, and I must admit that my initial thoughts are US centric...
But, thinking about this more, I think my point still stands. TV ratings => revenues => prize money => better athletes/competition. Improving tennis will help all around.
Tennis in America (one of the largest markets/revenue generators in the world) is dying. And you say "so what???" I think attitudes like that is why tennis continues to be stuck in 1st gear and not made any real progress. The biggest change in the last 50 years is what, Hawk Eye? New roof over Wimbledon?
FedFan_2009
Banned
Why does US keep churning out serve-only machines(Querrey, Isner) or ball-bashing brainless idiots(Roddick, Blake)? When is the last time an American tennis academy turned out a true all-courter?
Nadal_Freak
Banned
We got Wayne Odesnik but he definitely doesn't have the talent to go far in the future.
I can just hear the stupid execs in the NBC boardroom talking about how there are no tennis fans in this country and patting themselves on the back for getting rid of the 'loser' sport so they can show more crap golf. Probably got a bonus too.
Of course,m they will never in a million years acknowledge their own faults in making sure they had the worst coverage possible.
Of course,m they will never in a million years acknowledge their own faults in making sure they had the worst coverage possible.
Where did you pluck this out of the sky? The coverage is status quo just like the French Open. NBC will have first rights as usual, and since ESPN will broadcast first, bonehead McEnroe will blurt out the outcome of the first semi just like he did at the FO.
kanamit
Hall of Fame
Oh well. Looks like NBC will lose me as a viewer for tomorrow, as I'll have to just watch a stream so I can see the match live. Smart move by them. I'm sure I'm just one of thousands and thousands in this country. NBC advertisers during Wimbley tomorrow must be oblivious to what air time they're actually buying. This is what happens when you let bean counters take over.
LanceStern
Professional
I wouldn't call Roddick a ball bashing brainless idiot. He's smarter than A LOT of the players on tour especially to keep up in the Top 10 for so long.
Joseph L. Barrow
Professional
I was complaining about the ESPN coverage earlier in the tournament, but after a few days of NBC, it sounds like heaven!
egn
Hall of Fame
I wouldn't be suprised to see ESPN have good ratings though. Seriously didn't anyone watch stupid NBC their first coverage day.
Ready ready
lets start with the ending of the fed soderling match espn is showing
ooh then lets show this venus williams match that happened nearly 3 hours ago that we bought the rights to show but wouldn't show live
OOOH WAIT AND LETS SHOW THE SERENA MATCH AFTER IT THAT EVERYONE ALL READY WATCHED ON ESPN!!!! AND WE REFERENCED THE SCORE ALMOST 20 TIMES!!!!! YES LETS DO IT
now I am supposed to wonder why their ratings are down.
Ready ready
lets start with the ending of the fed soderling match espn is showing
ooh then lets show this venus williams match that happened nearly 3 hours ago that we bought the rights to show but wouldn't show live
OOOH WAIT AND LETS SHOW THE SERENA MATCH AFTER IT THAT EVERYONE ALL READY WATCHED ON ESPN!!!! AND WE REFERENCED THE SCORE ALMOST 20 TIMES!!!!! YES LETS DO IT
now I am supposed to wonder why their ratings are down.
egn
Hall of Fame
Umm wait Roddick isn't a serve-only machine!!!
Fish is an all courter but he is not so good. Levine also has a pretty decent game however he does not hit with enough power and is not tall enough to do that much damage.
Odesnik to this date makes me cry for being such a failure.
Sadly Donald Young looks as if he is still our only hope and he is regularly losing to guys out of the top 150.
The only other young kids are
Adam El Mihdawy but he can't even break top 500 >.>
Ryan Harisson still young he is 17 but shows nothing special and is not top 500 yet either and needs a lot of work, but being he is at Nick Bollieteri any talent he was will be eliminated and replaced with baseline bashing>.>
Austin Krajicek out of top 1000 and 19...he seems to have a bit of talent but once again doubting he ever cracks top 100
Those are all the young players I know who are under 20 and lets put it straight we are doomed. Ryan and Donald shocked us all with a big win when they were little and have done crap.
However Ryan Harisson has a little brother named Christian who might be worth looking into but the kid is only 15 right now I believe though I do remember seeing some footage of him from last years ITF 16s tournament and he had some nice game.
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