NEED CLEAN, NEED PRECISE!!

mnttlrg

Professional
I wanted to get some opinions on what racket makes for the cleanest, most precise shots possible. I want to minimize errors, mishits, floating / trampolining shots, etc.

I am generally not as concerned about getting power and spin from the racket. I hit a lot of that on my own already, I just need my racket to not fail me.

Here is where I think I generally stand, though feel free to disagree and nitpick all of this. What do you think you hit the most consistent, clean, solid shots with?

head size:
95 and below - I will sometimes miss the sweet spot and have some trouble generating calculated spins, especially on attacks
100 and above - I start to run into trampoline issues, and my shots will sometimes arc too high or float too long. To whatever extent I gain forgiveness and sweet spot, I sacrifice precision on the height / depth, shot location, tighter spins, etc.

flex:
67 and above - I will start to lose dwell time.... I get mishits, cut too thin, not transfer the weight of the hoop into the ball and get flimsy stuff.
62 and below - I have less of a problem with this department, but it gets harder to generate aggressive spin shots. I will start to compensate for a lack of pop by over-driving on my swings.

string pattern:
16x19 - sometimes it's fine, other times it gets too arcy, too launchy, too imprecise
18x20 - sometimes it feels a bit dense or doesn't dip much, but I generally hit more precise
18x19 - my favorite pattern... the best combination of the two

beam:
24 and above - I start to get too much arc, not enough drive. Too many mishits. Can get imprecise.
21 and below - I think I actually like this for a setup, but I used to struggle a bit with weaker hoops. Not sure. Maybe thin with lead is the best of both worlds??

length:
27.5 or above - I start to lose directional control and over-plow, too many mistakes
27.25 - I actually liked this when I've tried it, but whatever
27 - fine by me

strung weight:
11 or below - swinging lightning fast can be nice, but I run into problems against real pace. I get mishits, control problems, etc.
12 or above - slows me down a bit, which can lead to some issues, but I don't hate it. depends on how the weight is distributed and how rewarded I feel by adding the extra weight
11.5 - comfortable, but may or may not hold up against big pace / spin. Generally my weight of choice??

swing weight:
below 320 - too flimsy, leads to problems
330ish - feels fine, just a bit slower in exchange for better contact / control
340 or above - I don't hate it. There's probably a point where it becomes excessive but not sure


So that's probably everything I can think of, but maybe the answer is far more simple than all of that. What do you think?
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Head 97-98 sq inch, Stiffness 62-67 RA, SP doesn’t matter, BW <21mm, standard length (27), Weight 11.9 to 12.2 ozs, SW 330-335. Those are the specs I have always played with and feel comfortable with when I demo new racquets.
 

mnttlrg

Professional
Head 97-98 sq inch, Stiffness 62-67 RA, SP doesn’t matter, BW <21mm, standard length (27), Weight 11.9 to 12.2 ozs, SW 330-335. Those are the specs I have always played with and feel comfortable with when I demo new racquets.
Thx. Why the thinner beams?
 

MoonDoy

New User
Sounds like you want a control oriented racquet since you have good technique and don't need extra power/spin.

Prostaff 97 or Pure Strike 16x19 or 18x20 might fit your bill. If you get Pure Strike 18x20, you can forgo stringing the last cross to get the 18x19 pattern you like.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
Thx. Why the thinner beams?
A thinner beam usually feels more flexible for a particular RA stiffness creating a more precise feel, improving control and comfort for me. Or maybe it’s because I’m used to playing with them and thicker beams feel ’weird’ and ‘new’ out of my comfort zone.
 

mrravioli

Semi-Pro
Gravity Pro. Almost impossible to mishit, with Prestige level precision. But you'll need to be able to swing it effectively, definitely gets heavy in long hitting session, especially on serve. Speed Pro is similar, less plow through power but more user-friendly.
 

Fxanimator1

Hall of Fame
Generally pretty good technique.
I think the reason he suggested technique is because based on your own words it sounds like that’s what is needed most.
Advanced players with good technique already know what racquet they need for their game.
 

Stratotanker

Semi-Pro
Might be tough to come to this conclusion, but the thing that will best get you to clean and precise hitting is to pick a stick in the mid range of your specs and then hit with just those racquets for 12+ months. I'm a racquetholic myself, so I'm not judging, but this is probably the best answer.
 

Curtennis

Hall of Fame
You’re overthinking this. Pick a racquet. Play it for 3 months and figure out what you need more of/less of. Asking this question on the internet with the 100 parameters you provided is not going to help.
 

Vale46

New User
You’re overthinking this. Pick a racquet. Play it for 3 months and figure out what you need more of/less of. Asking this question on the internet with the 100 parameters you provided is not going to help.

I agree, this is the key to success. Also don't forget the huge influence of suitable strings in this considerations.
 

Trip

Hall of Fame
Simple: grab a G360+ Prestige Tour (99", 21.5mm beam, 18x19, 65RA, 326SW) on clearance at numerous places, string and play as is. No customization needed. Commit to it for 3-6 months, then reevaluate.

Just know now, as with any racquet, it won't be perfect, but it's as solid a home base to start from as anything else and fits the middle ground of your listed spec range like a glove, plus scoring one on clearance will max out the value. Good luck!
 

Grafil Injection

Hall of Fame
VCore 95, Extreme Tour with a bit of lead in the hoop (say 5g), Ultra Tour (if you can find one not at silly 'Pro' prices) with a bit more lead in the hoop (say 7g). But if you want stupid precision, MAX 200G (or 300i). Look for a 'light' version around 360g and good multi/gut strings.
 

Lorenn

Hall of Fame
string pattern:
16x19 - sometimes it's fine, other times it gets too arcy, too launchy, too imprecise
18x20 - sometimes it feels a bit dense or doesn't dip much, but I generally hit more precise
18x19 - my favorite pattern... the best combination of the two

So in the 99-100 range you likely want a 18x19/18x20.
98 and bellow you will likely want a dense 16x19 or an open 18x20.

Prestige Tour 360+ seems to be exactly what you are looking for....Secondary choice would be Gravity Pro. Third Prestige 360+ Midplus. Prince Textreme Tour 100P.
 
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Trip

Hall of Fame
Prestige Tour seems to be exactly what you are looking for....Secondary choice would be Gravity Pro. Third Prestige Midplus. Prince Textreme Tour 100P.
For clarity: the G360+ Prestige Tour is now the Auxetic Prestige MP (after the rename). Both are excellent, with the Auxetics having an ever-so-slightly crisper feel across the range.

If the OP is going to look at a Gravity, I would recommend the Gravity Tour over the Pro -- still 100" and 18x20, but easier to play with and a tad more power, while being almost as stable.

The Prince Textreme Tour 100P is also excellent; good-to-great at everything, no real weaknesses. If you want slightly more power and spin than the 360+ Prestige Tour, this is your frame.

You could also look at a more connected 98's -- the '22 Tecnifibre TF40 18x20 (still spin-friendly) or Diadem Elevate FS (16x20). Both foam-filled, connected, relatively precise; good all-court sticks.

So those are your expanded best choices, although I'd still grab a G360+ Prestige Tour on the cheap, as it's just such a universal frame for very little outlay, then venture on from there later this year.
 

Lorenn

Hall of Fame
So those are your expanded best choices, although I'd still grab a G360+ Prestige Tour on the cheap, as it's just such a universal frame for very little outlay, then venture on from there later this year.

Update my post to included the needed clarification. On specs the Prestige Tour 360+ really is ideal for the OP. It is an exceptional control oriented neutral frame. I ended up picking the Gravity Pro, but can totally understand why one would pick the Prestige Tour 360+.
 

graycrait

Legend
@mnttlrg , Oh what "way back time machine" fun!

Here is a list I would start with. Keep an eagle eye out for minty Volkl Quantum Tour 10 98s. My pair weigh 11.5oz.

In the "newer" racket category why not demo a TF 40 305 18x20? I keep ignoring this racket, even going so far as to buying 3 Prince Twistpower X97s, As my game looms closer to septuagenarian demands I may have to get a TF 40 305 and even a Pure Aero just to say I have tried them.
 
Vcore 95 (sweetspot is the same as 98s, besides my personal opinion, check TW university)
Vcore Pro HD or D.
Head Speed Pro (if miss hitting is really happening so often you need a racket to decrease it, this might be the best compromise with a large head size)
Head Prestige
A little more lively...Pure Strikes (tour really is the most control)
 

puppybutts

Hall of Fame
1. it is adorable seeing a little hammy boi picture posting an all caps thread title
2. could you not just plug in your preferred spec range on racquetfinder and see what pops up?
3. don't get too caught up on string pattern alone. for example I really love 18x20 98, so the yonex vcore 97 16x19 is a nice transition to get something a little less dense and a little more spin, without being as launchy as a 98 16x19.

anyway if I had to give you straight up recommendations:
- 2019 green yonex vcore pro 330
- babolat pure strike 3rd 18x20
- wilson blade v8 18x20 (less power than strike, but a little more maneuverable which helps you get a little more spin)
- that one head prestige model that is i think 99 18x19, whatever it's called now
 
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