New, revised GOAT List

[King No1e]

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Connors above Pete? ROFL.

 

[King No1e]

Connors above Pete? ROFLMAO.

I rate longevity very highly. No one is more qualified on that front than Connors. Most matches ever won, and most titles ever.
More underrated than Darth Maul

 

[Turning Pro]

^But way below is other accolades......

 

[Standaa]

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

Yeah on Topspin 4

 

[Phoenix1983]

Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

No Olympic Gold, boy.

 

[prairiegirl]

No McEnroe? I agree with Laver at the top.

 

[Rabin]

Lol, you people wish. 20 > 17 > 13.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

Rosewall, Laver and Djokovic ahead of Nadal? Just lol

 

[Rebel-I.N.S]

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

OGM in singles though...

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

Missing the olympics

 

[Deon Sanders]

Connors above Pete? ROFLMAO.

Yeah that would be wrong

Real list is

1) Roger
2) Pete
3) Novak
4) Connors

Winners of the most real slams in the open era

 

[Standaa]

Yeah that would be wrong

Real list is

1) Roger
2) Pete
3) Novak
4) Connors

Winners of the most real slams in the open era

You don’t get to decide what’s a real Slam, frog.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

Yeah that would be wrong

Real list is

1) Roger
2) Pete
3) Novak
4) Connors

Winners of the most real slams in the open era

1-Federer
2-Nadal
3-Pete
4-Djokovic

 

[TimHenmanATG]

Surely players who have been around for 15-20 years, yet have only managed to win 7 out of the 9 Masters titles shouldn't even be in the GOAT discussion?

 

[Jontyg]

Rating Novak over Rafa is just ridiculous...

 

[xFedal]

No Olympic Gold, boy.

He still has COMPLETE SET OF SLAMS/MASTERS/WTF! no other player could boast this.

 

[Spencer Gore]

1. Laver
2. Djokovic
3=. Nadal
3=. Borg
5. Gonzales
6. Rosewall
7. Sampras
8. Federer
9. McEnroe
10. Connors

 

[GabeT]

Missing the olympics

That’s a “nice to have”

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

He still has COMPLETE SET OF SLAMS/MASTERS/WTF! no other player could boast this.

Still missing the Career Golden slam , Only Agassi and Nadal have it

 

[Deleted member 754093]

Djokovic ahead of Nadal? What?

1. Laver
2. Djokovic
3=. Nadal
3=. Borg
5. Gonzales
6. Rosewall
7. Sampras
8. Federer
9. McEnroe
10. Connors

And Federer at 8? Below PETE? What on earth? Even if you don't like the guy, come on.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

That’s a “nice to have”

His crying after losing to Delpo says otherwise

 

[GabeT]

His crying after losing to Delpo says otherwise

Why? It’s clearly nice to have. It’s simply not part of the professional circuit.

 

[MichaelNadal]

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

Lol #Ultronians

 

[jaggy]

Laver
Nadal
Borg
Federer
Sampras
Djokovic
McEnroe
Connors
Rosewall
Agassi

 

[dr325i]

Lol, you people wish. 20 > 17 > 13.

Exactly.
Rafa is still waaayyyy above Novak.

 

[xFedal]

Still missing the Career Golden slam , Only Agassi and Nadal have it

Aggasi is missing more than Djokovic.... Nadal is missing more than Djokovic..... Nads hasn't won Shanghai Master or Paris Master.... I won't even mention the other masters tournament Nadal is missing.... Aggasi won All 3 clay masters? Novak is only missing a Gold medal....

 

[Sudacafan]

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

I thought GOAT lists didn’t need revisions.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

Aggasi is missing more than Djokovic.... Nadal is missing more than Djokovic..... Nads hasn't won Shanghai Master or Paris Master.... I won't even mention the other masters tournament Nadal is missing.... Aggasi won All 3 clay masters? Novak is only missing a Gold medal....

They’re missing more

 

[xFedal]

They’re missing more

So that supports Novak having the most complete resume.....

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

RF
RGL
RA"P"G
KRR
RNP
BB
ND
PS
IL
WTT

 

[jukka1970]

No way is Nole above Nadal. Hats off to this major accomplishment today, but he's not above Nadal

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

 

[jukka1970]

1-Federer
2-Nadal
3-Pete
4-Djokovic

Judging order solely on just those 4 players. I agree, but Nole isn't far away from passing Sampras on that list

 

[tennis_pro]

Laver advanced from no 2 to no 1 after Djokovic beat Fed in Cincinnati?

 

[TahoeTennis]

Delete treadstone ban opie

Fedal are twin goats

 

[tennis_pro]

I rate longevity very highly. No one is more qualified on that front than Connors. Most matches ever won, and most titles ever.
More underrated than Darth Maul

Dude Connors just played long, he was almost irrelevant after 1984 when he was 32.

And the titles he won...don't get me started on that. 109 titles the biggest joke of a record ever. He's got 40 more titles than Djokovic and not even half the number of big titles that Djokovic has. Same with Fed and Nadal.

 

[zep]

Federer could be playing a bunch of 250s and cross Connors easily in title count. Big titles matter. Longevity is good but it's not above slams.

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Laver
Nadal
Borg
Federer
Sampras
Djokovic
McEnroe
Connors
Rosewall
Agassi

So much wrong with this list..

We all know Mury is GOAT anyway.

 

[Pablo1989]

Open Era only

1. Federer
2. Nadal
3. Djokovic
4. Sampras
5. Lendl
6. Borg
7. Connors
8. Agassi
9. McEnroe
10. Becker



For now...

 

[dunlop_fort_knox]

I rate longevity very highly. No one is more qualified on that front than Connors. Most matches ever won, and most titles ever.
More underrated than Darth Maul

lol no...

 

[hipolymer]

1. Federer
2. Laver/Rosewall
4. Nadal
5. Sampras/Djokovic
7. Wilding/Tilden/Gonzales/Borg
11. Lacoste/Cochet/Perry/Vines/Budge/Newcombe/Lendl/McEnroe/Wilander/Agassi/Connors

/thread

 

[donquijote]

Here is the complete GOAT list.

Spoiler

 

[Sport]

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

Nadal is more complete than Djokovic in outdoor, since Nadal has his GS titles more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. Nadal was won at least 2 Grand Slams on each surface (hard, grass and clay). Djokovic only has q GS on clay. 2 GS on each surface >>> 1 GS on each surface.

For Djokovic to be more complete than Nadal, he needs to be more complete both in outdoor and indoor (not only indoor conditions). In other words, Djokovic needs to win more Roland Garros titles.

 

[Jaitock1991]

1. Laver
2. Djokovic
3=. Nadal
3=. Borg
5. Gonzales
6. Rosewall
7. Sampras
8. Federer
9. McEnroe
10. Connors

ROFLMAO.

 

[Sport]

For Open Era:

1. Rod Laver
2. Roger Federer
3. Novak Djokovic
4. Ken Rosewall
5. Rafael Nadal
6. Jimmy Connors
7. Pete Sampras
8. Bjorn Borg
9. Ivan Lendl
10. Andre Agassi


Djokovic now the most complete tennis player of all time. Every single big title.

Some Nole fans like to live in their parallel universe. Was that comment necessary to divide the Nadalovic family?

Nadal has 17 Grand Slams (2 GS on each surface), 0 WTF, 1 OG, 33 Masters 1000 and 186 weeks as #1.

Djokovic has 13 Grand Slams (only 1 GS on clay), 5 WTF, 0 OG, 31 Masters 1000 and 223 weeks as #1.

4 GS are a giant difference which is not compensated by the 5 extra WTF, H2H and more weeks as #1. Specially when Nadal also leads in other categories outside Grand Slams, such as the Olympic Gold in singles anf number of Masters 1000. So it's not like Nadal only leads in GS.

Crucially, Nadal has his GS titles more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. Nadal has won at least 2 GS on each surface (hard, grass and clay). Djokovic has only won 1 GS on clay. 2 GS on each surface >>> 1 GS on each surface.

Nadal is more complete than Djokovic in outdoor, since Nadal has his GS titles more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. Nadal was won at least 2 Grand Slams on each surface (hard, grass and clay). Djokovic only has q GS on clay. 2 GS on each surface >>> 1 GS on each surface.

For Djokovic to be more complete than Nadal, he needs to be more complete both in outdoor and indoor (not only indoor conditions). In other words, Djokovic needs to win more Roland Garros titles.

By the way, the number of Grand Slams is almost universally considered to be the most relevant all-time great criterion. Other criteria are just tie-breakers in case two players are tied in Grand Slams. So Djokovic still needs to surpass Sampras, who has 14 GS and more weeks as #1. If Djokovic wins his 14 GS (which will happen), he will surpass Sampras. The Career Grand Slam would be a tie-breaker in Djokovic's favor.

 

[Incognito]

Laver advanced from no 2 to no 1 after Djokovic beat Fed in Cincinnati?

Also a Cincy title is worth 8 majors. Meaning Fed still GOAT!

 

[clout]

In Open era:
1. Federer
2. Nadal
3-4. Sampras or Djokovic
5. Borg
6. Lendl
7. Connors
8. Agassi
9. McEnroe
10. Laver (if we're going on purely open era players than #10 would be between Edberg, Becker and Wilander)

 

[King No1e]

No McEnroe? I agree with Laver at the top.

Mac a close #11 behind Agassi

 

[StrongerThanAll]

Anyone not putting Federer #1 is out to lunch.


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[RF-18]

Some Nole fans like to live in their parallel universe. Was that comment necessary to divide the Nadalovic family?

Nadal has 17 Grand Slams (2 GS on each surface), 0 WTF, 1 OG, 33 Masters 1000 and 186 weeks as #1.

Djokovic has 13 Grand Slams (only 1 GS on clay), 5 WTF, 0 OG, 31 Masters 1000 and 223 weeks as #1.

4 GS are a giant difference which is not compensated by the 5 extra WTF, H2H and more weeks as #1. Specially when Nadal also leads in other categories outside Grand Slams, such as the Olympic Gold in singles anf number of Masters 1000. So it's not like Nadal only leads in GS.

Crucially, Nadal has his GS titles more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. Nadal has won at least 2 GS on each surface (hard, grass and clay). Djokovic has only won 1 GS on clay. 2 GS on each surface >>> 1 GS on each surface.

Nadal is more complete than Djokovic in outdoor, since Nadal has his GS titles more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. Nadal was won at least 2 Grand Slams on each surface (hard, grass and clay). Djokovic only has q GS on clay. 2 GS on each surface >>> 1 GS on each surface.

For Djokovic to be more complete than Nadal, he needs to be more complete both in outdoor and indoor (not only indoor conditions). In other words, Djokovic needs to win more Roland Garros titles.

By the way, the number of Grand Slams is almost universally considered to be the most relevant all-time great criterion. Other criteria are just tie-breakers in case two players are tied in Grand Slams. So Djokovic still needs to surpass Sampras, who has 14 GS and more weeks as #1. If Djokovic wins his 14 GS (which will happen), he will surpass Sampras. The Career Grand Slam would be a tie-breaker in Djokovic's favor.

Going by your notion, how is Nadal more complete player if he isn't more complete in indoor conditions? Why does Djokovic have to be more complete in both to be considered completer but Nadal not?