No Excuse for Thiem

[Lleytonstation]

Heard many people continue to say Thiem is a clay specialists and grass is his worst surface. Then they say he played a grass specialist in Querrey too.

Take a look around at the draw. Plenty of "clay" specialists are doing fine against grass players. Slower courts should have helped him despite the low bounce.

There is no excuse for Thiem to lose here round 1. None.
Embarrassing. This is the most successful guy under 30? Nah. Tennis is in trouble, and Wimbledon is showing this in many ways.

 

[Born Again]

Thiem is a scrub...

 

[Sport]

Neither Schwartzman nor Fognini faced a grass specialist so solid as Sam Querrey (remember Querrey defeated Djokovic at Wimbledon 2016, and reached the Wimbledon SF in 2017). Also, Querrey is in great shape, as he was the Eatbourne finalist just one week ago.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Neither Schwartzman nor Fognini faced a grass specialist so solid as Sam Querrey (remember Querrey defeated Djokovic at Wimbledon 2016, and reached the Wimbledon SF in 2017). Also, Querrey is in great shape, as he was the Eatbourne finalist just one week ago.

Who was in the final last year at Wimbledon? Who beat that guy this year?

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

He was playing good back in 2017. This last 2 years since he started reaching RG finals have been disappointing , Although he was injured last year. Querrey is still more comfortable on the grass than Thiem. Thiem probably doesn’t care that much though

His best chance is RG or USO , Anything else and I don’t expect much from him

 

[Sport]

Thiem is a scrub...

Outside clay.

 

[Sport]

I am curious to see what can Thiem do at the US Open 2019, after his good run last year.

 

[Sport]

Pella faced and beat Anderson, who has beat Federer and reached Wimb finals that Querrey has not done.

Thiem is a joke. He is a waste. he is useless and should call suicide help line

Incorrect analogy. Wimbledon was the second tournament of Anderson in months after his long injury, so he was not in great shape. On the other hand, Mr. Querrey was in great shape, as he reached the final of Eastbourne one week ago.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Incorrect analogy. Wimbledon was the second tournament of Anderson in months after his long injury, so he was not in great shape. On the other hand, Mr. Querrey was in great shape, as he reached the final of Eastbourne one week ago.

Eastbourne really? Plus Thiem had that option as well. But then again, we know Thiem does not know how to schedule properly.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Heard many people continue to say Thiem is a clay specialists and grass is his worst surface. Then they say he played a grass specialist in Querrey too.

Take a look around at the draw. Plenty of "clay" specialists are doing fine against grass players. Slower courts should have helped him despite the low bounce.

There is no excuse for Thiem to lose here round 1. None.
Embarrassing. This is the most successful guy under 30? Nah. Tennis is in trouble, and Wimbledon is showing this in many ways.

I think Tim was still tired

 

[Lleytonstation]

I think Tim was still tired

 

[I Am Finnish]

 

[tennisaddict]

Incorrect analogy. Wimbledon was the second tournament of Anderson in months after his long injury, so he was not in great shape. On the other hand, Mr. Querrey was in great shape, as he reached the final of Eastbourne one week ago.

LOL, Querrey did not play for a long time. Eastbourne was a challenger level event with the calibre of players

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Outside clay.

Not even outside clay. Guy won IW and MAY be a dark horse at USO. Querrey is a nightmare 1st Round opponent.

 

[Phoenix1983]

He’s not known as the clown prince for nothing.

 

[BeatlesFan]

What was so pathetic to see from Thiem was his lack of effort in the Querrey match. For a guy who prides himself on his fitness (for good reason), there's absolutely no excuse to put up no resistance in a slam match. This court is as slow as clay, Thiem really should have made the semis at W this year.

 

[deaner2211]

Heard many people continue to say Thiem is a clay specialists and grass is his worst surface. Then they say he played a grass specialist in Querrey too.

Take a look around at the draw. Plenty of "clay" specialists are doing fine against grass players. Slower courts should have helped him despite the low bounce.

There is no excuse for Thiem to lose here round 1. None.
Embarrassing. This is the most successful guy under 30? Nah. Tennis is in trouble, and Wimbledon is showing this in many ways.

If Fed would have faced Querrey the first round he would be out of the tournament also. Sometimes the draw can be nice and sometimes it is a biatch.

 

[Thundergod]

Not even outside clay. Guy won IW and MAY be a dark horse at USO. Querrey is a nightmare 1st Round opponent.

Querrey has been bad since 2018.

 

[Lleytonstation]

If Fed would have faced Querrey the first round he would be out of the tournament also. Sometimes the draw can be nice and sometimes it is a biatch.

You don't know that, but we do know Thiem couldn't handle a non top 50 player.

 

[Deon Sanders]

Thiem has as many "big" titles as Jack Sock

Has as many real slam QFs as Tennys Sandgren

 

[Lleytonstation]

Thiem has as many "big" titles as Jack Sock

Has as many real slam QFs as Tennys Sandgren

He is Jack Sock. He should look into double.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

If Fed would have faced Querrey the first round he would be out of the tournament also. Sometimes the draw can be nice and sometimes it is a biatch.

Fed won Halle whereas Thiem didn't even play a grass warm-up. Pretty baseless comment.

 

[tennisaddict]

And a bagel set to Querrey, who is coming off a long sabattical... LMAO, Diamond Age

 

[Deon Sanders]

He is Jack Sock. He should look into double.

Well Jack Sock actually has a semi-final appearance in the ATPs premier event in one try and Thiem has failed in three tries

Plus the grand slam trophies Jack Sock has at his home

Thiem is not even Jack Sock

 

[thrust]

Eastbourne really? Plus Thiem had that option as well. But then again, we know Thiem does not know how to schedule properly.

Querry at his best is an outstanding grass court player, Thiem is not. Thiem, at his best is an outstanding clay court player, Querry is not. Simple as that.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Querry at his best is an outstanding grass court player, Thiem is not. Thiem, at his best is an outstanding clay court player, Querry is not. Simple as that.

Anderson vs Pella.

Medvedev vs Goffin.

Cilic vs sousa.

Khachanov vs RBA.

2 of those have been in WC finals, Querrey has not. This isn't even half way into the draw.

 

[True Fanerer]

Thiem had a bad draw. Nobody wants to play Querrey in the 1st round. Either way he wasn't making it past 4th round or QF.

 

[thrust]

Well Jack Sock actually has a semi-final appearance in the ATPs premier event in one try and Thiem has failed in three tries

Plus the grand slam trophies Jack Sock has at his home

Thiem is not even Jack Sock

How may slam singles finals has Sock reached?

Anderson vs Pella.

Medvedev vs Goffin.

Cilic vs sousa.

Khachanov vs RBA.

2 of those have been in WC finals, Querrey has not. This isn't even half way into the draw.

I was defending Thiem's loss to Querry, who one day be great on grass then the next day, lose to anyone. When Sam beat Novak at Wimbledon he played outstanding grass court tennis, then lost soon after that.

 

[icedevil0289]

him losing to querrey at wimbledon isn't the big deal, querrey i feel is much more comfortable on the surface and he knocked out the defending champions twice, i figured he was going down. on the other hand whats sad is clay prince not having a single clay court masters but zverev has 2.

 

[thrust]

Luck of the draw? I agree Thiem has not lived up to his potential on clay or any other surface, for that matter

 

[Bukmeikara]

Thiem had a bad draw. Nobody wants to play Querrey in the 1st round. Either way he wasn't making it past 4th round or QF.

Thiem had the potential to reach deep at Wimbledon. His loss against Querey its mostly to a extremely bad draw for a first rounder.
He isnt worse than Agut or Raonic whom would likely reach the SF

 

[Lleytonstation]

Thiem had the potential to reach deep at Wimbledon. His loss against Querey its mostly to a extremely bad draw for a first rounder.
He isnt worse than Agut or Raonic whom would likely reach the SF

He is on grass.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

Querrey has been bad since 2018.

Guy’s a gamer and grass his best surface. Beat Djokovic in 2016!

 

[Bukmeikara]

He is on grass.

He has beaten Federer, won a title and was a few points away of beating Berdych at Wimbledon and likely reach the Sf in 2017

Grass provides a really small sample size for us to be able to judge players on a fair basis

 

[True Fanerer]

Thiem had the potential to reach deep at Wimbledon. His loss against Querey its mostly to a extremely bad draw for a first rounder.
He isnt worse than Agut or Raonic whom would likely reach the SF

I'd pick Raonic over Thiem all day at Wimbledon.

 

[dunlop_fort_knox]

thought: maybe he is a one dimensional ball striker who has occasionally overcome TERRIBLE court positioning, and lack of transition game, to win some pro tournaments and a masters 1000?

 

[mika1979]

Heard many people continue to say Thiem is a clay specialists and grass is his worst surface. Then they say he played a grass specialist in Querrey too.

Take a look around at the draw. Plenty of "clay" specialists are doing fine against grass players. Slower courts should have helped him despite the low bounce.

There is no excuse for Thiem to lose here round 1. None.
Embarrassing. This is the most successful guy under 30? Nah. Tennis is in trouble, and Wimbledon is showing this in many ways.

Not good, tactically stupid

 

[Mainad]

Eastbourne really? Plus Thiem had that option as well. But then again, we know Thiem does not know how to schedule properly.

Querrey does have some serious grass form though. Is a former Queen's champion (2010) and Wimbledon semi-finalist (2017).

 

[Lleytonstation]

Querrey does have some serious grass form though. Is a former Queen's champion (2010) and Wimbledon semi-finalist (2017).

He does. If he is there in the QF it's a tough one for Rafa, but not based on Eastbourne.

 

[chimneysweep]

There is no excuse, but he is simply a bad grass court player. That has been obvious for awhile now. Maybe he has a bad attitude, and could be better otherwise. His long swings make grass harder for him than many other baseliners or slow court players though.

 

[Pantera]

Heard many people continue to say Thiem is a clay specialists and grass is his worst surface. Then they say he played a grass specialist in Querrey too.

Take a look around at the draw. Plenty of "clay" specialists are doing fine against grass players. Slower courts should have helped him despite the low bounce.

There is no excuse for Thiem to lose here round 1. None.
Embarrassing. This is the most successful guy under 30? Nah. Tennis is in trouble, and Wimbledon is showing this in many ways.

Sorry totally wrong. Speed of court isnt what bothers a player even at club level at a decent level let alone at pro level. It is height of bounce that is key. Thiem very reliant on a high bounce to make his kick serve be a weapon and FH.

 

[Lleytonstation]

Sorry totally wrong. Speed of court isnt what bothers a player even at club level at a decent level let alone at pro level. It is height of bounce that is key. Thiem very reliant on a high bounce to make his kick serve be a weapon and FH.

Still, no excuse. He is a supposed "top" tennis player first, not just a clay specialist.

 

[Pantera]

Still, no excuse. He is a supposed "top" tennis player first, not just a clay specialist.

He is a high court specialist. Won IW, pushed Nadal at USO last year all the way in an epic match, and is obviously superb on clay. Outside of those conditions he is not a top 10 player, as much as I genuinely like the guy.

 

[Jonas78]

I think we are getting more and more desperate in hyping the players under 30y. Who can blame us