Nole fans, Wimbledon final could be Djokovic's last match of the season. How do you feel about it?

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

This is it guys, Djokovic's season could be over by Monday especially if he loses.

He obviously can't play the North-American swing, and there will be no Asian swing this season as well most likely. We could see him at the very end playing in Paris and Torino but if he loses the final he won't qualify for the YEC and I doubt he'll find the motivation to play only Paris then. Maybe only a couple of Davis Cup matches to help his country and that's it.

It's sad because only in the last couple of tournaments he started to find his form and build his stamina but now he has to stop and go through it all over again in 4 or 5 months which also means he won't be even close to his best at the AO.

We will see. As it stands yes. Things can change yet though. For the sake of common sense I hope they do fast.

 

[Hitman]

The other factor is Rafa and his wife have a baby on the way. That will definitely affect Nadals tennis to home life balance. It took Federer and Djokovic a while to adapt to it. That could take a bit of the edge of Rafa initially as well as him trying to stay healthy and avoid further injuries.

I feel once all vaccine mandates lifted there’s less obstacles in novaks way whereas Rafa is more injury prone with more wear and tear and family life to adapt to.

This is true. Plus Novak does have another five seasons IMO of slam contending left in him. I mean, it took Nadal, the RG GOAT, playing again out of his skin to potential stop would could have been a channel slam opportunity here for Novak. Novak is still very very dangerous everywhere, and he isn't going anywhere. He could lose tomorrow and have a set back, but he will keep moving forward, if he wins tomorrow...then he has to be licking his lips as the prospect of ending this race once and for all.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

It was just a sad ordeal. They only wanted to make an example out of Novak for their own political gains. Funny how we had another female tennis player, come in and play events, and she was not vaccinated, then all of a sudden she is thrown out. And how many people did Novak infect and kill in AO 2021, when the virus was running rampant everywhere? Now he was a menace to society? LOL Even the public saw through the nonsense, voted them out, and we see some sanity come back. Tournaments need legitmacy, not clouds of controversy hanging over them....players should only be banned if they were caught doping or match fixing. If countries cannot host international tennis players, stop host international tennis events.

You nailed it in the last sentence. I couldn’t have said it better bro. If you have committed to hosting international tournaments well before covid then you stick to it. Players have dedicated to this sport long before covid19. If you can’t carry it out anymore then let another country host it.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Is he welcome in Canada?

 

[Hitman]

You nailed it in the last sentence. I couldn’t have said it better bro. If you have committed to hosting international tournaments well before covid then you stick to it. Players have dedicated to this sport long before covid19. If you can’t carry it out anymore then let another country host it.

A pretty simple thing if you think about it.

 

[Hitman]

Is he welcome in Canada?

Don't think so, but they said something about special circumstances for unvaccinated people. Whether or not Djokovic qualifies, I don't know.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Don't think so, but they said something about special circumstances for unvaccinated people. Whether or not Djokovic qualifies, I don't know.

Maybe Egg can pose as @Lleytonstation

 

[Tshooter]

 

[mike danny]

He could still play Paris Masters.

And YEC.

 

[Tennfan123]

I find it hard to believe that any fans seriously believe Djokovic won't win tomorrow.
This is handwringing mixed with unjinxing at high levels.

 

[Cabeza del Demonio]

Get vaxxed Novak!

Betray his PRINCIPLES for an untested gene therapy that has already killed millions, if not BILLIONS? I read on WND that a woman in Minnesota took the Clot Shot and then converted to Islam a week later! Do you not see what they're trying to do?

 

[Noleberic123]

And YEC.

I doubt he qualifies tbh

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Betray his PRINCIPLES for an untested gene therapy that has already killed millions, if not BILLIONS? I read on WND that a woman in Minnesota took the Clot Shot and then converted to Islam a week later! Do you not see what they're trying to do?

Exactly why should he? If America are to dumb to see this forced vaccination is idiotic and barbaric then that’s on them. Everywhere else accept Asia are moving on. Novak can probably play 3 of the 4 slams so America just need to wake up and end this nonsense.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I doubt he qualifies tbh

I doubt he cares to be honest. All he wants is majors now. Australia should let him back in next year. It’s just America and then he will be good to go.

 

[BGod]

Already wrote down his plausible schedule a few times but basically playing Vienna/Paris is very likely.

 

[Noleberic123]

I doubt he cares to be honest. All he wants is majors now. Australia should let him back in next year. It’s just America and then he will be good to go.

I agree. I don't care either tbh

 

[thrust]

He is coming to USA on his Harley Davidson via the Mexican Border

Great pic- LOL!

 

[Visionary]

This is it guys, Djokovic's season could be over by Monday especially if he loses.

if he loses the final he won't qualify for the YEC

do you really mean that the exhibition final tomorrow is so significant?

He obviously can't play the North-American swing

That may or may not be as obvious as it is that it is some people's (like yours) wishful thinking

We could see him at the very end playing in Paris and Torino but if he loses the final he won't qualify for the YEC

Here, which "final" really are you refering to? The tomorrow's exhibition one? I am sorry but I may not have known that there are any points into the race for Torino out of this grass exhibition.

It's sad because only in the last couple of tournaments he started to find his form

What is regretful is that the vaccine diplomacy has stopped this great tennis players from playing when he was ready.

now he has to stop and go through it all over again in 4 or 5 months which also means he won't be even close to his best at the AO.

I hope he does not go to the AO at all; he can just play the tournaments that appreciate him.

All in all, the season has a few tournaments that Novak can play. So, let him decide and let the powers of those tournaments decide whether it is worth having such a calibre of a player as Novak Djokovic play there. I believe that there are tournaments this fine Serb can play and will play. There's no need to make his situation so melodramatic.

 

[PUSB]

I sure as hell don't. I say that being a Rafa fan since 2005.

Dont you feel the slam record is safe? I do. From what ive seen of Djokovic this season startig with Rome i cannot see him winning Majors on hard court. The Next Genners are all more comfortable on hard and if he is losimg sets on grass to Sinner and Norrie and that dutch guy it does not bode well for the future at all. Nadal actually looks the much better player but he cannot stay fit.
Medvedev or Nadal will win Us Open. Reason is Medvedev is as fresh as a daisy which for the last slam of the year is of huge significance. Nadal will also be fresh as he now is forced to take 2-3 weeks off to rest the abdomen.
Djokovic is looking mentally fried and he admitted it to an extent yesterday sayijg how nervous he gets. That takes a huge toll. Even i he gets to play NY which i thought may happen but i dont now as its too close for a sudden change in policy from the Biden Administration given here has been no suggestion at all of a change he would be seeded 7. Makes life a whole lot harder.
As for Australia well by then Alcaraz will be more dangerous Zverev will be back Kyrgios more dangerous after his beatdown tomorrow which will make him want to make amends at his home slam and then by the time RG comes along next year realistically Nadal and Djokovic probably will be much declined. Djokovics game has definitely declined.
Add all that up why not root for him tomorrow?

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I agree. I don't care either tbh

Yeah. It would have been nice to have got one more title to equal Fed record but he doesn’t need it really. The 5 is more than enough.

 

[PUSB]

Perspective lol. What he’s done in 2022 … blowing 2 slams… in one of his final good years … while locked in a neck and neck GOAT race… all because he’s scared of a vaccine that has 0.002% chance of a temporary cardiac inflammation in his age group. They’re gonna make movies about how shockingly stupid and stubborn this was.

Im not vaccinated. Didnt fancy DNA code being rewritten which some Dr in Australia yesterday said is the effect of the vaccine.
you well know all the doubts about vaccines. Who knows what is true. For Novak and myself and millions of others if in doubt play it safe. Novak looks absolutely fine health wise and is he not exhibit A of why not to be vaccinated? How many vaxxed players had to withdraw? He didnt and is about to be crowned Wimbledon Champion. Think of the wider picture here.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Dont you feel the slam record is safe? I do. From what ive seen of Djokovic this season startig with Rome i cannot see him winning Majors on hard court. The Next Genners are all more comfortable on hard and if he is losimg sets on grass to Sinner and Norrie and that dutch guy it does not bode well for the future at all. Nadal actually looks the much better player but he cannot stay fit.
Medvedev or Nadal will win Us Open. Reason is Medvedev is as fresh as a daisy which for the last slam of the year is of huge significance. Nadal will also be fresh as he now is forced to take 2-3 weeks off to rest the abdomen.
Djokovic is looking mentally fried and he admitted it to an extent yesterday sayijg how nervous he gets. That takes a huge toll. Even i he gets to play NY which i thought may happen but i dont now as its too close for a sudden change in policy from the Biden Administration given here has been no suggestion at all of a change he would be seeded 7. Makes life a whole lot harder.
As for Australia well by then Alcaraz will be more dangerous Zverev will be back Kyrgios more dangerous after his beatdown tomorrow which will make him want to make amends at his home slam and then by the time RG comes along next year realistically Nadal and Djokovic probably will be much declined. Djokovics game has definitely declined.
Add all that up why not root for him tomorrow?

After watching Australian open this year the standard of tennis wasn’t great. Had Novak been there in my opinion he’d have sailed to the title. Djoko can defo win next year if he allowed back in. Novak the king on rod laver with 9 titles and unbeaten record in semis and final.

Novak has a point to prove and for me Novak can win the slam race on Wimbledon and Australian open if he can keep his dominance up at both.

Rafa’s only lock in RG and Rafa is more prone to injury and also has the distraction of being dad to come. I feel once the covid vaccination mandates are fully removed everywhere there’s more roadblocks in nadal’s way than Djokovic.

 

[PUSB]

After watching Australian open this year the standard of tennis wasn’t great. Had Novak been there in my opinion he’d have sailed to the title. Djoko can defo win next year if he allowed back in. Novak the king on rod laver with 9 titles and unbeaten record in semis and final.

Novak has a point to prove and for me Novak can win the slam race on Wimbledon and Australian open if he can keep his dominance up at both.

Rafa’s only lock in RG and Rafa is more prone to injury and also has the distraction of being dad to come. I feel once the covid vaccination mandates are fully removed everywhere there’s more roadblocks in nadal’s way than Djokovic.

On what we have seen this season Rafa woukd have beat Djokovic in Melbourne. No doubt about it. Djokovic has not improved his level from the Us Open last year arguably he is worse.
His BH is really ordinary by his standards. The 2nd serve has lost pace and is just stuck in the middle of the box.
being a God at an event which Novak is in Australia does not mean a player will always win it. Nadal even has lost at Rg before.
also the thing about Nadal is that for all his talk about wanting to play a peoper schedule to feel like a tennis player the side effect of his injuries is he keeps getting extended breaks allowin him to be fresh at Majors . Game wise he seems head and shoulders above anyone currently. He just beat Fritz who is rising up the rankings fast on a grass court with no serve or BH. 3 weeks ago he routined the 2nd best current clay courter in Ruud statistically. In melbourne he beat the best current hard court player.
Nadal looks like he can win 2 more slams as nobody seems able to live with him in best of five. Zverev being the exception.
i may be wrong. Djokovic may unleash his full arsenal tomorrow and the BHTL may be back amd he 2nd serve back to its best. But if he plays like he has so far and wins due to kyrgios choking i honestly feel it will be his last slam. The guy is 35.

 

[Cabeza del Demonio]

Exactly why should he? If America are to dumb to see this forced vaccination is idiotic and barbaric then that’s on them. Everywhere else accept Asia are moving on. Novak can probably play 3 of the 4 slams so America just need to wake up and end this nonsense.

Yes the forced vaccination is barbaric. Not the disease itself, just the vaccine mandate.

 

[vex]

Didnt fancy DNA code being rewritten…
…you well know all the doubts about vaccines. Who knows what is true. …

no man. You’re lost in a rabbit hole of propaganda

 

[PUSB]

no man. You’re lost in a rabbit hole of propaganda

How come i have not been ill? Just like Novak hasnt.? Propaganda?

 

[vex]

How come i have not been ill? Just like Novak hasnt.? Propaganda?

For a huge chunk of folks Covid doesn’t hit hard at all. You almost certainly had it and were asymptomatic.

 

[PUSB]

For a huge chunk of folks Covid doesn’t hit hard at all. You almost certainly had it and were asymptomatic.

So why bother being vaccinated then?

 

[vex]

So why bother being vaccinated then?

1) for the very significant chunk of folks who do get EXTREMELY ill and/or die, the vaccine basically removes that risk. You didn’t KNOW which category you were in. It worked out for you, but not getting vaxed has backfired HORRIBLY for even many healthy folks.

2) while the vax does not perfectly stop infection, it does reduce spread significantly and narrows the window in which people who do get infect can infect others bc ur body kicks it butt super fast when ur vax’d.

3) the US border policy is “if you aren’t a citizen and you aren’t vax’d, GTFO”. Frankly, why should it be otherwise? Why should we give two ****s if a noncitizen can’t get in just bc they’re too obstinate to get vaxed? Why should we let people come in and increase our spread? In the aggregate we gain nothing by letting unvaxed folks in. Now, sure u can argue we gain by letting NOVAK in, but sorry, no special treatment.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

On what we have seen this season Rafa woukd have beat Djokovic in Melbourne. No doubt about it. Djokovic has not improved his level from the Us Open last year arguably he is worse.
His BH is really ordinary by his standards. The 2nd serve has lost pace and is just stuck in the middle of the box.
being a God at an event which Novak is in Australia does not mean a player will always win it. Nadal even has lost at Rg before.
also the thing about Nadal is that for all his talk about wanting to play a peoper schedule to feel like a tennis player the side effect of his injuries is he keeps getting extended breaks allowin him to be fresh at Majors . Game wise he seems head and shoulders above anyone currently. He just beat Fritz who is rising up the rankings fast on a grass court with no serve or BH. 3 weeks ago he routined the 2nd best current clay courter in Ruud statistically. In melbourne he beat the best current hard court player.
Nadal looks like he can win 2 more slams as nobody seems able to live with him in best of five. Zverev being the exception.
i may be wrong. Djokovic may unleash his full arsenal tomorrow and the BHTL may be back amd he 2nd serve back to its best. But if he plays like he has so far and wins due to kyrgios choking i honestly feel it will be his last slam. The guy is 35.

Rafa didn’t play well in Melbourne. Dennis Shaps and Meddy chokes gifted him the title. Meddy should have beaten him in 3 had he not wet the bed and choked. He was lucky to win but credit to him for his fighting spirit. Rafa again wasn’t super dominant at french open but did enough to win as he raised his game when needed. Rafa has had a great year but let’s not make out he’s unbeatable or anywhere near prime Rafa of the past.

Djoko has always played within himself in slams and only unleashes his best when he needs it. In other years he’s not looked great at times but over 5 sets he finds a way to raise his game and outlast his opponent. That’s why Djoko never won a slam without dropping sets as he not as ruthless the whole tournament. He plays in spells and his purple patches usually see him over the line and he gets better the longer matches go.

The fact is Djokovic won 3 slams last year, reached a final in the other. This year in another slam final, couldn’t play Australia and only lost to the king of clay at the french. Djoko is doing very well and his body is in much better shape than rafa’s. As soon as Djoko can get back in the all slams he wins the slam race in my view. He will easily outlast rafa as his body in better shape. The next gen continue to be mugs so far. It’s only the us open they can win currently as it’s more open but of course Djokovic or Nadal can’t be written off. It’s a shame that Djoko might miss this us open because of mandates but hopefully it’s the last time if he does. Hopefully they see sense before though

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Yes the forced vaccination is barbaric. Not the disease itself, just the vaccine mandate.

I totally agree. It’s all about holding on to power/control. It’s pathetic

 

[vex]

Djoko has always played within himself in slams and only unleashes his best when he needs it. In other years he’s not looked great at times but over 5 sets he finds a way to raise his game and outlast his opponent. That’s why Djoko never won a slam without dropping sets as he not as ruthless the whole tournament. He plays in spells and his purple patches usually see him over the line and he gets better the longer matches go.

This is such a good point about Djokovic that I feel like sooooo many people don’t understand.

He does not break out of 4th or 5th gear unless he NEEDS to. Why should he play in 6th gear and risk UFEs derailing him when his 4th/5th gear beats 99% of the field. His 6th gear is essentially limited to Rafa Nadal.

Rarely, this approach can backfire - the Stan loss at RG’15 when he convinced himself he could stay in 5th and Stan’s redlining would crash. But we’ve seen the opposite - the Simon match where Simon refused to do anything but push and defend and forced Djokovic to play closer to 6th gear, Djoker didn’t have it that day and he produced 100(!)UFEs. Still found a way to win.

Bottom line, Djokovic plays extremely smart, tactical tennis. He can absolutely raise his offense to match anyone but he rarely does because it’s an unnecessary risk.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

This is such a good point about Djokovic that I feel like sooooo many people don’t understand.

He does not break out of 4th or 5th gear unless he NEEDS to. Why should he play in 6th gear and risk UFEs derailing him when his 4th/5th gear beats 99% of the field. His 6th gear is essentially limited to Rafa Nadal.

Rarely, this approach can backfire - the Stan loss at RG’15 when he convinced himself he could stay in 5th and Stan’s redlining would crash. But we’ve seen the opposite - the Simon match where he refused to do anything by push and defend and forced Djokovic to play closer to 6th gear, Djoker didn’t have it that day and he produced 100(!)UFEs. Still found a way to win.

Bottom line, Djokovic plays extremely smart, tactical tennis. He can absolutely raise his offense to match anyone but he rarely does because it’s an unnecessary risk.

Extremely great points. I think people don’t realise this. Djoko is very smart player and has an amazing tennis IQ. He plays in spells and knows when to turn it up a notch. He’s not afraid to let a set go if it’s getting away and just hit the reset button. Roger Federer was the same and knew how to peak for the sets he could win.

Rafa is a bit different and fights every point. That’s though why he suffered more injuries or burnout by end of tournaments. He’s much harder on his body as his intensity is 100% a lot more. Djoko can stay in 1st or 2nd gear and then push the accelerator when he needs to if he’s in a bad position in match.

I mean of course it’s risky as it won’t always work as a player might goat for 3 sets against him or go a set up and keep up the momentum and not long him back in like Meddy did in us open. That’s why though it’s important to get the first 2 sets against Novak unless your are maybe Nadal as the longer it goes and the more confident and stronger Djoko gets the harder it is to beat him.

 

[The Fedfather]

Yes the forced vaccination is barbaric. Not the disease itself, just the vaccine mandate.

The concern over a tennis player's inability to compete blocks out any attempts to understand why the US government are reluctant to lessen public health safety measures when the country lost over a million people to COVID-19.

 

[The Fedfather]

This is such a good point about Djokovic that I feel like sooooo many people don’t understand.

He does not break out of 4th or 5th gear unless he NEEDS to. Why should he play in 6th gear and risk UFEs derailing him when his 4th/5th gear beats 99% of the field. His 6th gear is essentially limited to Rafa Nadal.

Rarely, this approach can backfire - the Stan loss at RG’15 when he convinced himself he could stay in 5th and Stan’s redlining would crash. But we’ve seen the opposite - the Simon match where Simon refused to do anything but push and defend and forced Djokovic to play closer to 6th gear, Djoker didn’t have it that day and he produced 100(!)UFEs. Still found a way to win.

Bottom line, Djokovic plays extremely smart, tactical tennis. He can absolutely raise his offense to match anyone but he rarely does because it’s an unnecessary risk.

There's nothing smart about just playing poory lol. It's one thing not to go all out and stress your body unnecessarily, and another just play at a low level, getting away with it only because his opponents are playing worse. The myth about Djokovic being able to raise his level at will and get the win was nicely demonstrated to be false in his match vs Nadal at RG. Turns out he doesn't have the stamina to keep up his A game long enough to come back from behind if his opponent is playing well. Novak falling behind and then easily gaining ground so often in recent years, says more about the competition than it does about Djokovic's ability.

 

[Texas Tennis Fan]

On what we have seen this season Rafa woukd have beat Djokovic in Melbourne. No doubt about it. Djokovic has not improved his level from the Us Open last year arguably he is worse.
His BH is really ordinary by his standards. The 2nd serve has lost pace and is just stuck in the middle of the box.
being a God at an event which Novak is in Australia does not mean a player will always win it. Nadal even has lost at Rg before.
also the thing about Nadal is that for all his talk about wanting to play a peoper schedule to feel like a tennis player the side effect of his injuries is he keeps getting extended breaks allowin him to be fresh at Majors . Game wise he seems head and shoulders above anyone currently. He just beat Fritz who is rising up the rankings fast on a grass court with no serve or BH. 3 weeks ago he routined the 2nd best current clay courter in Ruud statistically. In melbourne he beat the best current hard court player.
Nadal looks like he can win 2 more slams as nobody seems able to live with him in best of five. Zverev being the exception.
i may be wrong. Djokovic may unleash his full arsenal tomorrow and the BHTL may be back amd he 2nd serve back to its best. But if he plays like he has so far and wins due to kyrgios choking i honestly feel it will be his last slam. The guy is 35.

Anything is possible, but Nadal almost lost at least a couple of times in AO. And to suggest that he would have easily beaten Djokovic on his favorite court when Nadal has not taken a set off of him since 2013 seems to be a stretch.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

There's nothing smart about just playing poory lol. It's one thing not to go all out and stress your body unnecessarily, and another just play at a low level, getting away with it only because his opponents are playing worse. The myth about Djokovic being able to raise his level at will and get the win was nicely demonstrated to be false in his match vs Nadal at RG. Turns out he doesn't have the stamina to keep up his A game long enough to come back from behind if his opponent is playing well. Novak falling behind and then easily gaining ground so often in recent years, says more about the competition than it does about Djokovic's ability.

Yeah only Nadal at RG. That’s nothing to be ashamed of though. As Rafa is the best front runner ever in history and especially on clay. I think what we saying is Novak doesn’t intend to play poorly. Sometimes he can play bad at start of matches but he doesn’t panic about it. He trusts his ability and mental resolve to hit the reset button and figure out a new plan or way to play better. Djokovic went sets down to Federer at us open and Wimbledon but he didn’t panic. He loses concentration more than his rivals at times or can be a slow starter. He’s one of the best though at getting better and outlasting his opponents.

We are saying the longer the match goes the stronger he tends to get stronger and the weaker his opponent gets. Even at french, Novak didn’t play great but he was close to a 5th set against Rafa and who knows what might happen? Probably still Rafa wins but our point is you got to put Djoko away early win you get a chance. As the likelihood is you lose if the match prolongs and gets more physical and a grindfest.

 

[Indigo]

If he wins here at WB it is fine. He wouldn't win USO anyways. It's been been cursed for him most of the time. But one thing I don't understand. Last year when the virus was at the peak he was able to play but now when the virus is somehow almost gone he is not allowed to play. Very strange.

 

[Hitman]

Anything is possible, but Nadal almost lost at least a couple of times in AO. And to suggest that he would have easily beaten Djokovic on his favorite court when Nadal has not taken a set off of him since 2013 seems to be a stretch.

Nadal was dehydrated and lost several pounds of weight after his quarter final match, yeah, no way he beats AO GOAT in that condition. Likely straight sets loss, if indeed was physically impaired.

 

[Hitman]

If he wins here at WB it is fine. He wouldn't win USO anyways. It's been been cursed for him most of the time. But one thing I don't understand. Last year when the virus was at the peak he was able to play but now when the virus is somehow almost gone he is not allowed to play. Very strange.

Politics.

 

[The Fedfather]

Yeah only Nadal at RG. That’s nothing to be ashamed of though. As Rafa is the best front runner ever in history and especially on clay. I think what we saying is Novak doesn’t intend to play poorly. Sometimes he can play bad at start of matches but he doesn’t panic about it. He trusts his ability and mental resolve to hit the reset button and figure out a new plan or way to play better. Djokovic went sets down to Federer at us open and Wimbledon but he didn’t panic. He loses concentration more than his rivals at times or can be a slow starter. He’s one of the best though at getting better and outlasting his opponents.

We are saying the longer the match goes the stronger he tends to get stronger and the weaker his opponent gets. Even at french, Novak didn’t play great but he was close to a 5th set against Rafa and who knows what might happen? Probably still Rafa wins but our point is you got to put Djoko away early win you get a chance. As the likelihood is you lose if the match prolongs and gets more physical and a grindfest.

Well, Nadal at RG being the only solid opponent Djokovic can play in Slams these days is exactly the reason he gets away with often not being able to sustain a high level for long stretches of play. He continues winning big because there are rarely matches nowadays where he needs to play well for more than a couple games in a set.

Sure, he can outlast his opponents mentally, including Federer, but that's neither here nor there when we're talking about the gears Djokovic's game has and how he uses them. What I'm saying is that when he plays poorly, it's not a tactic or at least not a smart one.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Well, Nadal at RG being the only solid opponent Djokovic can play in Slams these days is exactly the reason he gets away with often not being able to sustain a high level for long stretches of play. He continues winning big because there are rarely matches nowadays where he needs to play well for more than a couple games in a set.

Sure, he can outlast his opponents mentally, including Federer, but that's neither here nor there when we're talking about the gears Djokovic's game has and how he uses them. What I'm saying is that when he plays poorly, it's not a tactic or at least not a smart one.

Fair enough. Yeah I understand that and good post.

 

[PUSB]

Anything is possible, but Nadal almost lost at least a couple of times in AO. And to suggest that he would have easily beaten Djokovic on his favorite court when Nadal has not taken a set off of him since 2013 seems to be a stretch.

Didnt say easily but i think would have been 4 or 5 sets. The Djokovic shot tolerance all year is not what it was which plays right into Nadals hands.
If he cant beat Rafa in humid nighttime clay conditions which are the worse conditions for Nadal i doubt he wins in hotter temperatures tbh. On current form

 

[PUSB]

Rafa didn’t play well in Melbourne. Dennis Shaps and Meddy chokes gifted him the title. Meddy should have beaten him in 3 had he not wet the bed and choked. He was lucky to win but credit to him for his fighting spirit. Rafa again wasn’t super dominant at french open but did enough to win as he raised his game when needed. Rafa has had a great year but let’s not make out he’s unbeatable or anywhere near prime Rafa of the past.

Djoko has always played within himself in slams and only unleashes his best when he needs it. In other years he’s not looked great at times but over 5 sets he finds a way to raise his game and outlast his opponent. That’s why Djoko never won a slam without dropping sets as he not as ruthless the whole tournament. He plays in spells and his purple patches usually see him over the line and he gets better the longer matches go.

The fact is Djokovic won 3 slams last year, reached a final in the other. This year in another slam final, couldn’t play Australia and only lost to the king of clay at the french. Djoko is doing very well and his body is in much better shape than rafa’s. As soon as Djoko can get back in the all slams he wins the slam race in my view. He will easily outlast rafa as his body in better shape. The next gen continue to be mugs so far. It’s only the us open they can win currently as it’s more open but of course Djokovic or Nadal can’t be written off. It’s a shame that Djoko might miss this us open because of mandates but hopefully it’s the last time if he does. Hopefully they see sense before though

So what happened in Paris? Perfect conditions for Djokovic and hee was totally outplayed.
the medvede comments are misguided. Why woild he wet the bed as you put it.only 5 months earlier he won his maiden slam by beating Djokovic. Nadal was just clutch and raised his game.
Lets be clear. Nadal has lost one match all season. To alcaraz. His other losses were due to injury.
on current form Nadal is superior to Novak and while form fluctuates i am seeing no evidence Djokovic will win the slam race. The game hasnt been there and he is 35. It is totally nstural for the decline to hit.
you are honestly trying to sell to me Djokovic only raised his game v Sinner when needed and let himelf go 2 sets down? Come on now. Be realistic. While i do not think Sinner is going to ever win a slam as he is mentally weak i can see him knocking out top players like he did with Alcaraz and his game like pretty much all the younger players mstches up far better with Novak than with Rafa. Rafa is unique style wise and these one dimensional youngsters cannot hamdle it so Rafa definitely if he can stay fit could win 2 more slams.

 

[PUSB]

1) for the very significant chunk of folks who do get EXTREMELY ill and/or die, the vaccine basically removes that risk. You didn’t KNOW which category you were in. It worked out for you, but not getting vaxed has backfired HORRIBLY for even many healthy folks.

2) while the vax does not perfectly stop infection, it does reduce spread significantly and narrows the window in which people who do get infect can infect others bc ur body kicks it butt super fast when ur vax’d.

3) the US border policy is “if you aren’t a citizen and you aren’t vax’d, GTFO”. Frankly, why should it be otherwise? Why should we give two ****s if a noncitizen can’t get in just bc they’re too obstinate to get vaxed? Why should we let people come in and increase our spread? In the aggregate we gain nothing by letting unvaxed folks in. Now, sure u can argue we gain by letting NOVAK in, but sorry, no special treatment.

But vaxxed people spread covid ore as they are gettimg it more than the unvaxxed. Djokovic didnt get covid at W whe many others did. Suggests his immune system is stronger perhaps than the vaxxed?

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

So what happened in Paris? Perfect conditions for Djokovic and hee was totally outplayed.
the medvede comments are misguided. Why woild he wet the bed as you put it.only 5 months earlier he won his maiden slam by beating Djokovic. Nadal was just clutch and raised his game.
Lets be clear. Nadal has lost one match all season. To alcaraz. His other losses were due to injury.
on current form Nadal is superior to Novak and while form fluctuates i am seeing no evidence Djokovic will win the slam race. The game hasnt been there and he is 35. It is totally nstural for the decline to hit.
you are honestly trying to sell to me Djokovic only raised his game v Sinner when needed and let himelf go 2 sets down? Come on now. Be realistic. While i do not think Sinner is going to ever win a slam as he is mentally weak i can see him knocking out top players like he did with Alcaraz and his game like pretty much all the younger players mstches up far better with Novak than with Rafa. Rafa is unique style wise and these one dimensional youngsters cannot hamdle it so Rafa definitely if he can stay fit could win 2 more slams.

It’s the French open for gods sake. No matter the conditions, Rafa will always be the favourite over Novak and anyone there. He can be beat but only if Djokovic produces a special performance to do so. Rafa beating Novak has never had any bearing on how the match goes on hard or grass. Novak the favourite over Rafa on them surfaces

Rafa and his wife have a baby on the way too. That will affect him time. It will turn his life upside down for a while. Then he’s more injury prone than Djokovic also.

Them 2 factors alone will weaken his chances in the slam race. Rafa was lucky Novak wasn’t in Melbourne and he capitalised.

Fair play to him however, unless he can widen the slam gap enough then Novak will overtake him or at least level him. Novak will have his chances at slams for next few years provided they let him compete.

Novak can outlast these younger guys still in slams and Rafa still needs to prove he can reach Djokovic in non-clay major and beat him. I still doubt it and it’s funny how Novak never avoids Rafa on clay but Rafa been dodging Novak for ages off clay.

 

[PUSB]

It’s the French open for gods sake. No matter the conditions, Rafa will always be the favourite over Novak and anyone there. He can be beat but only if Djokovic produces a special performance to do so. Rafa beating Novak has never had any bearing on how the match goes on hard or grass. Novak the favourite over Rafa on them surfaces

Rafa and his wife have a baby on the way too. That will affect him time. It will turn his life upside down for a while. Then he’s more injury prone than Djokovic also.

Them 2 factors alone will weaken his chances in the slam race. Rafa was lucky Novak wasn’t in Melbourne and he capitalised.

Fair play to him however, unless he can widen the slam gap enough then Novak will overtake him or at least level him. Novak will have his chances at slams for next few years provided they let him compete.

Novak can outlast these younger guys still in slams and Rafa still needs to prove he can reach Djokovic in non-clay major and beat him. I still doubt it and it’s funny how Novak never avoids Rafa on clay but Rafa been dodging Novak for ages off clay.

How did Nadal dodge Djokovic in Melbourne? Or NY in 2019 and 2017?
What has a baby got to do with anything. His wife will do all that stuff. Rafa will get on as normal.
I think you are a bit blinded by your love of Djokovic and are not seeing the decline in him. He and Rafa are slowing down gradually. The liked of Alcaraz Zverev and others are getting better. Next year will probably see new faces winning slams. Nadal will be 36/37 Djokovic 35/36. Even Djokovic said in his presser yesterday he doesnt know how many more chances he will get so Sunday is huge. For the first time he made no mention of the Slam record.
Nobody knows the future of course but i am not seeing anything in Djokovic to suggest he will be winning Majors next season if he continues to slow down and try to bail out of rallies early ehich he does alot now with drop shots or huge Forehands. He is shortening points. Which is wise. But also means he makes more errors which the next gen feed off as none of them like to grind.
anyway for tomorrow we are on same team.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

How did Nadal dodge Djokovic in Melbourne? Or NY in 2019 and 2017?
What has a baby got to do with anything. His wife will do all that stuff. Rafa will get on as normal.
I think you are a bit blinded by your love of Djokovic and are not seeing the decline in him. He and Rafa are slowing down gradually. The liked of Alcaraz Zverev and others are getting better. Next year will probably see new faces winning slams. Nadal will be 36/37 Djokovic 35/36. Even Djokovic said in his presser yesterday he doesnt know how many more chances he will get so Sunday is huge. For the first time he made no mention of the Slam record.
Nobody knows the future of course but i am not seeing anything in Djokovic to suggest he will be winning Majors next season if he continues to slow down and try to bail out of rallies early ehich he does alot now with drop shots or huge Forehands. He is shortening points. Which is wise. But also means he makes more errors which the next gen feed off as none of them like to grind.
anyway for tomorrow we are on same team.

I’m not overrating Djokovic I’m just saying it’s strange how you keep bigging up Rafa and knocking down Novak. Is this your reverse pyschology? Nearly most people think Djokovic is more likely to outlast rafa on tour. That is why Rafa needs a big enough lead in slam race to finish with most. If Djoko is only just 1 behind he will fancy it

I‘m pointing out that Novak has looked after his body well and has got less wear and tear than Rafa. A newborn can affect both parents. Yes his wife will do the heavy lifting but it’s still a big adjustment to rafa’s life and something he hasn’t had to adapt to like Djokovic and Federer did in past. It certainly will affect his focus and concentration at times.

Novak when asked that is being grounded. He’s said the same before. He’s getting older like Rafa so of course he knows the window is closing but he said he plans to play a few more years. Provided he can stay fit and the countries let him in then he will compete for more. These next gen players are still not stepping up and Rafa winning 2 majors will encourage Novak to keep going. First to pull clear of Fed and then try catch or overtake Rafa. Still game on the race is all I‘m saying and you will be a fool if you think Novak isn’t going to fight for it.

I agree he’s declined but not enough for him not to compete for slams with his tennis level, tennis IQ, fitness and mental strength. Unless a next gen becomes the new ATG and kick Nadal and Djokovic out the picture they will remain in contention

 

[Curtennis]

Perspective lol. What he’s done in 2022 … blowing 2 slams… in one of his final good years … while locked in a neck and neck GOAT race… all because he’s scared of a vaccine that has 0.002% chance of a temporary cardiac inflammation in his age group. They’re gonna make movies about how shockingly stupid and stubborn this was.

Keep believing those fake statistics…

 

[Rosstour]

You nailed it in the last sentence. I couldn’t have said it better bro. If you have committed to hosting international tournaments well before covid then you stick to it. Players have dedicated to this sport long before covid19. If you can’t carry it out anymore then let another country host it.

This logic leads to a LIV Tour for Tennis, maybe in a joint marketing venture with Vince McMahon and the WWE.

Tennis is a creation of the Anglo-Franco world. People play this sport BECAUSE of that, because London and Paris and New York are the world's most desirable, liberal, and powerful places...and tennis is a gateway to that glittering, open society.

And so unless you think that the world's most powerful and most democratic nations should simply bow to one man...you should support the decisions they make.

Because the alternative is a PTPA/Liv Tour that plays in Russia, China, North Korea, Azerbaijan, Syria, and Saudi Arabia.