Where does Djokovic's 2023 HC season rank in last 20 seasons?

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Going back to Federer's 2004 season, where do you put Djokovic's HC season for 2023 as it stands right now amongst the last 20 seasons. Of course he can add more titles to it.

As of now, he won Adelaide, AO, Cincinnati and USO.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
I think it will be best to talk after the season is over. Right now there is 2 big tournaments he will be playing. Currently it's somewhere along side of 2019.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
In the face of increasingly impoverished competition, the one-eyed man is the king of the jungle.
:X3:
 

TsitsiBH

Rookie
1 Djokovic 2011
2 Federer 2007
3 Federer 2006
4 Djokovic 2015
5 Federer 2004
6 Djokovic 2012
7 Federer 2005
8 Nadal 2013

Maybe 9th.
 

AleYeah

Rookie
Considering his age, it's a pretty damned spectacular season. I'll leave the statistical arguments to those who revel in them.
 

Rafa4LifeEver

G.O.A.T.
In terms of his own level of play, its below his own post,-30 seasons such as 2018, 2019, 2020 & on par with 2021; leave aside his pre-30 seasons.
In terms of vulturing, yeah this is the best opportunity he's had so far.
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
HC Career vs Top10 open era:
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In terms of Djokovic seasons, I'd put it behind every season other than 2017-2018 since 2011. I'd put it ahead of 2009-2010, and behind 2008 and 2007. In terms of "vs. the best seasons since 2003," it's tougher... somewhere between #17 and #19.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic 2023 is among his best ever HC seasons.

It's 2015 then 2011 = 2023

2 slams in all three years. But competition in 2011 was very strong especially at the open

4 masters in 2015 is white wash for the year.

ATP finals in 2015 while losing in 2011
2011 had more masters than 2023

So overall

2023 > 2011 similar to 2023.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
WTH both of you are talknig about Nachiket and BGod??! Which "2 slams"?! Novak won 3 slams in those seasons?! Did i hit some kind of parallel universe suddenly, when Novak has won only 2 slams in 2011, 2015 and 2023 instead of 3 or what?! LOL
 

Neptune

Hall of Fame
WTH both of you are talknig about Nachiket and BGod??! Which "2 slams"?! Novak won 3 slams in those seasons?! Did i hit some kind of parallel universe suddenly, when Novak has won only 2 slams in 2011, 2015 and 2023 instead of 3 or what?! LOL

Talking about HC now, Hard Court
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Up there with the best. You have to rank it up there with the best HC seasons when he wins the AO and USO, but he won the ATP finals as well. Something like this I guess:

1. 2015 (2 Slams, ATP Finals, 4 Masters, 1 500)
2. 2023 (2 Slams, ATP Finals, 2 Masters, 1 250)
3. 2011 (2 Slams, 3 Masters, 1 500)
4. 2012 (1 Slam, ATP Finals, 3 Masters, 1 500)
5. 2013 (1 Slam, ATP Finals, 2 Masters, 2 500s)
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
WTH both of you are talknig about Nachiket and BGod??! Which "2 slams"?! Novak won 3 slams in those seasons?! Did i hit some kind of parallel universe suddenly, when Novak has won only 2 slams in 2011, 2015 and 2023 instead of 3 or what?! LOL
Do not get hyper. It's only hard courts we are talking about.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Up there with the best. You have to rank it up there with the best HC seasons when he wins the AO and USO, but he won the ATP finals as well. Something like this I guess:

1. 2015 (2 Slams, ATP Finals, 4 Masters, 1 500)
2. 2023 (2 Slams, ATP Finals, 2 Masters, 1 250)
3. 2011 (2 Slams, 3 Masters, 1 500)
4. 2012 (1 Slam, ATP Finals, 3 Masters, 1 500)
5. 2013 (1 Slam, ATP Finals, 2 Masters, 2 500s)

And then if we go further down the list to wrap it up in top-10:
6. 2008 (1 Slam, ATP Finals, 1 Masters)
7. 2016 (1 Slam, 3 Masters, 1 250)
8. 2018 (1 Slam, 2 Masters)
9.2020 (1 Slam, 1 Masters, 1 500, ATP Cup)
10.2019 (1 Slam, 1 Masters, 1 500)
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
And then if we go further down the list to wrap it up in top-10:
6. 2008 (1 Slam, ATP Finals, 1 Masters)
7. 2016 (1 Slam, 3 Masters, 1 250)
8. 2018 (1 Slam, 2 Masters)
9.2020 (1 Slam, 1 Masters, 1 500, ATP Cup)
10.2019 (1 Slam, 1 Masters, 1 500)
You wouldn't put 2016 over 2008?
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
No...ATP Finals title costs thousand times more than any masters...so just because he had won 3 of them instead of 1 doesn't change things much in my book...ATP Finals is just way bigger and important...
I agree that the ATP Finals is bigger and more important but I kind of weigh the sunshine double kind of high. That might would tip the scales and I might would switch those 2. I agree with all the rest though.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
I agree that the ATP Finals is bigger and more important but I kind of weigh the sunshine double kind of high. That might would tip the scales and I might would switch those 2. I agree with all the rest though.

Fair enough, but i stand corrected...i mean i can see your opinion, but to me ATP finals -> No matter what as long as it isn't grand slam...even sunshine double...plus let's be honest 2016 got pretty meh near the end...
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Fair enough, but i stand corrected...i mean i can see your opinion, but to me ATP finals -> No matter what as long as it isn't grand slam...even sunshine double...plus let's be honest 2016 got pretty meh near the end...
Yea that's true and fair enough.
 
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