beard
Legend
We can't say what would or wouldn't happen, but think he would be big favourite... Wawa wasn't the old one, what he showed in next round... Wawa isn't the old one for 4 years now...
Novak Djokovic: Edited Pre-Tournament Press Conference | Cincinnati (c/o New York) 2020
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beard
Legend
I think that Rafa and Fed at hard surface slam are good for Novak, where they often kick out more dangerous players for him as Thiem, Medvedev, Wawa, maybe even Tsi or Zverev... Same stands for his pigeons Raonic, Nishikori, Dimitrov, Cilic... They are good news in Novak's draw as cleaners of his path...
beard
Legend
Damn, you got him there... Now he won't post anything or will post some link where nothing says what he claims...
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Good points here.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Damn, you got him there... Now he won't post anything or will post some link where nothing says what he claims...
Of course he did, and we all were 90% sure that that's what was going to happen.
PeoplesChamp
Legend
The last time Federer have defeated Djokovic at the HC Slam people were still trying to invent the electricity. Federer has the same effect on Djokovic's chances on winning a HC Slam as the penguins from Antarctica. GTHOH with that talk..
-Active players that have defeated Djokovic at UO since 2007:
Federer - skip/injured
Nadal - skip
Wawrinka - skip
Murray - bionic hip
Nishikori - corona
beard
Legend
Yeah, that's what happened, I saw that in meantime. Loolllll....Of course he did, and we all were 90% sure that that's what was going to happen.
beard
Legend
Fed - haven't done against Novak on hard surface slam for a decade
Nadal - same as above but for 7 years
Wawa - he is dangerous for Novak, but Wawa is not himself for years now
Murray - he is practically retired for top tennis, why mentioning him for particular slam?
Nishikori - he is not dangerous for Novak for years, why mentioning him at all...
Novak is the best player in the world, not many players can beat him, deal with it...
King_ Zeglan12
Professional
That'd make a good rap verse
PeoplesChamp
Legend
Whatever helps you sleep broskiFed - haven't done against Novak on hard surface slam for a decade
Nadal - same as above but for 7 years
Wawa - he is dangerous for Novak, but Wawa is not himself for years now
Murray - he is practically retired for top tennis, why mentioning him for particular slam?
Nishikori - he is not dangerous for Novak for years, why mentioning him at all...
Novak is the best player in the world, not many players can beat him, deal with it...
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
Yes. All that toweling became a habit, and I think a very bad one.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Not if both healthy
Both were craps
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Fed - haven't done against Novak on hard surface slam for a decade
Nadal - same as above but for 7 years
Wawa - he is dangerous for Novak, but Wawa is not himself for years now
Murray - he is practically retired for top tennis, why mentioning him for particular slam?
Nishikori - he is not dangerous for Novak for years, why mentioning him at all...
Novak is the best player in the world, not many players can beat him, deal with it...
Kind of sums it all up...the players who can cause Novak problems on HC are actually still in the draw, and they come from the younger generation.
Sadly he would only benefit from Fed and Rafa who would take out some of the truly dangerous players in the draw. If things pan out and he faces Medvedev in sf and Thiem in final, that's as tough as it can get. He was lucky he faced Fed in sf of AO2020 and smoked him and had energy in the final.
Maybe it's time we accept we will never see again Federer on slam winning level. A year off tennis at age 39 due to injury that required 2 operations, that's just refusing to accept reality.
Maybe it's time we accept we will never see again Federer on slam winning level. A year off tennis at age 39 due to injury that required 2 operations, that's just refusing to accept reality.
Subway Tennis
Legend
I do think he was definitely within his rights to declare that the US Open this year is wide open. There are still plenty of the people in the draw who can harm him.
We are all pretty keen to see how Medvedev matches up against Djokovic in Bo5 now. The only other time Djokovic has played him in a major it was close for a set, then Novak manhandled him. But Medvedev has undergone a serious transformation since that match.
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Born_to_slice
Legend
There's a literal cut in the middle of Novak's sentence in that video. It also appears they edited out comments on "controversial covid disqualifications".It was a lot of stuff about the government using Corona to control us
Or maybe they edited the question being asked by the journalist leaving only the answer? Not as good a conspiracy theory, though
Djokovic miffed at USTA for ousting two players
Novak Djokovic criticized the USTA proceeds that led to the removal of Guido Pella and Hugo Dellien from the Western & Southern Open.
Subway Tennis
Legend
Who do you think would trouble Djokovic the most from that group? Thiem? Med?
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Now there's a lesson for you. You can't rely on oral advice. And the advice was not incorrect, just incomplete.
The famous waiver gave them the full and rather more onerous conditions of their participation, and yet they still signed:
Djokovic said the advice given was "obviously contrary" to what was spelled out in the waiver players bound for New York were obliged to sign. That waiver, Djokovic said, specified that New York state health officials would initiate contact tracing in the event of a positive test. If it was determined that the players were too close to the infected person, the officials could take the decision to disqualify the players.
If this is yet another example of Djokovic's tour leadership, then I pity the players.
The famous waiver gave them the full and rather more onerous conditions of their participation, and yet they still signed:
Djokovic said the advice given was "obviously contrary" to what was spelled out in the waiver players bound for New York were obliged to sign. That waiver, Djokovic said, specified that New York state health officials would initiate contact tracing in the event of a positive test. If it was determined that the players were too close to the infected person, the officials could take the decision to disqualify the players.
If this is yet another example of Djokovic's tour leadership, then I pity the players.
There's a literal cut in the middle of Novak's sentence in that video. It also appears they edited out comments on "controversial covid disqualifications".
Djokovic miffed at USTA for ousting two players
Novak Djokovic criticized the USTA proceeds that led to the removal of Guido Pella and Hugo Dellien from the Western & Southern Open.www.espn.com
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
The waiver states that the decision to disqualify is made NY state medical officials.
There is nothing "onerous" about this waiver.
NY state health officials have granted special permission for this USO event to be held.
The health officials too priority is to protect the public from this USO bubble event and it is reasonable that they make the call on disqualification. Not some biased Tournament organizer.
Give us your solution to player disqualification instead of just being a whiny malcontent.
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Mainad
Bionic Poster
Which is what exactly?
beard
Legend
So, New York state health officials shouldn't have rights to do what they think is good for public health? Who should decide what is best in Covid crisis where people are dying? President of tennis player council?
Are.... You.... Serious...?
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
You didn't read the article. Please do your homework before commenting.
The waiver states that the decision to disqualify is made NY state medical officials.
There is nothing "onerous" about this waiver.
NY state health officials have granted special permission for this USO event to be held.
The health officials too priority is to protect the public from this USO bubble event and it is reasonable that they make the call on disqualification. Not some biased Tournament organizer.
Give us your solution to player disqualification instead of being a whiny malcontent.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
We read the article. Djoker was verbally told that players can continue to play if they had not shared a room with the physio.
In this case, the NY Health officials conducted contract tracing and found that the players received massages from the physio.
Obviously the NY Health Officials should make the decision on disqualification, and that is what is stated in the waiver agreement.
The only reason this Tournament is being allowed to be held is because the NY Health officials have granted special permission and demanded special procedures to be followed.
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beard
Legend
I guess you are not serious...
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
That's not Djokovic's understanding. He is quite clearly saying that the oral advice would have allowed the players to stay.
He did not get this understanding reflected in the waiver. This is a failure on his part.
He did not get this understanding reflected in the waiver. This is a failure on his part.
Raul_SJ
G.O.A.T.
The disqualification was not a violation of the understanding. The players did not share a room with the physio but the oral advice does not allow the players to have prolonged 15 minute intimate contact with an infected masseuse.
You are just being silly. The impartial NY Health officials conducted contract tracing. You need to accept the science and respect the authority of the NY health officials.
You still have not answered what should have been done in this masseuse scenario. Who do you want conducting the contact tracing and making the decision? Johnny Mac?
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
You can't read, so I really don't know what to say other than that all this is speculation. Do your homework and learn to read!
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Subway Tennis
Legend
Did anyone notice the weird potential social distancing / hygiene issue during the Giron / Medvedev match?
Not sure Giron should have been doing that during the change of ends.
Not sure Giron should have been doing that during the change of ends.
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