Saw a picture on Luxilon facebook at RG where they were stringing a well used Clash. Might be a junior or doubles player ?Still surprised to do not see ATP professional player with a Clash 100 or 98
maybe 2021
Saw a picture on Luxilon facebook at RG where they were stringing a well used Clash. Might be a junior or doubles player ?
You could string a little lower, perhaps a hybrid with a multifilament.Can folks please comment on whether they have been able to achieve decent feel on the Clash 100 (and tour/pro/whatever) with their choice of string and tension? I've been playing Tour Bite 17 at 48lbs and had great results on-court, except for feel/touch. I own a couple of Gravitys and an IG Prestige, all of which have much better feel than the Clash. However, the Clash beats them all on my groundstrokes, especially my SHBH and serve (so it's better for me overall), but I miss the lovely feel of the Heads as, in comparison, the Clash is clunky and dead. BTW, my Clash is a 100, weighted-up pretty significantly to 335g and 340 swing weight.
I use Tour Bite 17 also but at 52lbs on a Clash Pro. My drop shots are now far superior than they were when I used a Pure Drive, my drop with that stick was similar to that of an Elephant.Can folks please comment on whether they have been able to achieve decent feel on the Clash 100 (and tour/pro/whatever) with their choice of string and tension? I've been playing Tour Bite 17 at 48lbs and had great results on-court, except for feel/touch. I own a couple of Gravitys and an IG Prestige, all of which have much better feel than the Clash. However, the Clash beats them all on my groundstrokes, especially my SHBH and serve (so it's better for me overall), but I miss the lovely feel of the Heads as, in comparison, the Clash is clunky and dead. BTW, my Clash is a 100, weighted-up pretty significantly to 335g and 340 swing weight.
Perhaps I need to string a little higher, opposite to what the TW advice is for this line of racquets! Or maybe my weighted-up Clash 100 is just not as equivalent to a Pro/Tour as I had assumed.I use Tour Bite 17 also but at 52lbs on a Clash Pro. My drop shots are now far superior than they were when I used a Pure Drive, my drop with that stick was similar to that of an Elephant.
I love the feel I have with my Clash Pro
I just responded to another poster's advice to string tighter...tennis is maddening sometimes! Thanks for your response. Maybe some tightly-string Velocity in the crosses is the happy medium. I need to get my own stringing machine!You could string a little lower, perhaps a hybrid with a multifilament.
It took me only about 8-12 racquets before I completely got the process down. My stringing experience was first getting the weave right, then remembering to do the last main/cross higher tension for knot, then finally just tying knots. Doesn’t take too long, but finding a string to stick with is once you learn lol. I have been stringing for quite awhile and need to just get a reel and finish it.I just responded to another poster's advice to string tighter...tennis is maddening sometimes! Thanks for your response. Maybe some tightly-string Velocity in the crosses is the happy medium. I need to get my own stringing machine!
Perhaps I need to string a little higher, opposite to what the TW advice is for this line of racquets! Or maybe my weighted-up Clash 100 is just not as equivalent to a Pro/Tour as I had assumed.
Always difficult to choose raquets based on other people's reviews. I was fortunate to be able to demo both the Clash 98 and Pro. For me it was an easy pick, guess that coming from the Blade the Pro was a too big of a step while the 98 clicked all the boxes. Regardless of which you choose I think the Clash line brings something new and is definitely worth a try. Wish you good luck in making a decision.Rawen, i played Pure strike 98 PO7 too maybe year and half, same problem like you awesome racket but too stiff, my arm was dead after year, i played new gen pure strike 98 16x19 too maybe 3 months , thats was absolutly **** ! too muted, too powerfull, no feel and still stiff. Last longer period with pure aero i played with aero pro drive and plus version (2015 models) 2-3 years ago. I tried my friend pure aero for 3sets it was awesome(2months ago), i won, my forehand was best. Game was really fun from my side, but after 3sets i felt little bit of pain in shoulder again. Btw im using yonex polytour pro 1.25, its really comfortable poly. On stiffer frame you still feel it but on more flexi frames its awesome. Back to clash, i dont know, im reading this thred, its 50% people like more 98 50% like more 100 tour. In my city i havent opinion demo racket sad Its hard for me choose like that,100 tour should be better on my topspin forehand, 98 better on my flat backand, hard to choose
i played new gen pure strike 98 16x19 too maybe 3 months , thats was absolutly **** ! too muted, too powerfull, no feel and still stiff. Back to clash, i dont know, im reading this thred, its 50% people like more 98 50% like more 100 tour. In my city i havent opinion demo racket sad Its hard for me choose like that,100 tour should be better on my topspin forehand, 98 better on my flat backand, hard to choose
Yes, thinking of Tourna Silver 7 Tour next time as folks here seem to love it (stiffer than Tour Bite and apparently it holds tension super-well). BTW, my weighting experiment has been generally successful. Just adding a couple of grams at 12 was a night and day difference for serving and plow-through. The rest is just balancing (plus a couple of grams at 3 and 9 recently to help my inability to hit the center of the stringbed).You might want to consider that rackets with tech will generally become inferior to stock in certain aspects once you mod them past a certain point much quicker than standard offerings. Maybe explore dialing back weight a little and trying a different setup.
Tour bite is pretty soft as it loses tension. You might want to try a stiffer string but at the same tension.
The only time you get feel from the clash is from swinging hard. I don't think you'll be about to get "good feel" regardless of string setup tbh.
Perhaps I need to string a little higher, opposite to what the TW advice is for this line of racquets! Or maybe my weighted-up Clash 100 is just not as equivalent to a Pro/Tour as I had assumed.
I have both the 98 and the 100 tour. I'm still undecided of which I like better but I agree with Yamin, you'll be happy with the 98. The 98 and the tour have very similar specs and they both somehow feel very light, compared to that the 100 felt way too light for my taste. The 100 tour provides a lot of easy power, it's fun to use but I keep going back to the 98 for the control. Demo them if you can, if you can't then I'd lean towards the 98.Muted, powerful, no feel, and depending on how hard you swing, stiffness are all going to be present in the clash as well. I'd recommend the 98 > 100 > Tour.
Though the most comfortable of the bunch, the tour has far too much power and is too erratic. Serves are probably the strongest out of any racket I've tried with the least effort though.
100 is a good choice if you need the lighter spec and does everything fine.
98 plays more like a traditional racket and has much more control.
If you want to experience something more different or need a bit more comfort, go with the 100. If you want a blind buy that you probably will be happy with, go with the 98.
Wow, my arm hurts just reading that! Dang, if you don't get some feel from that setup it's not going to happen at all for me.I am running HyperG 1.30mm at 60lbs in the mains crossed with Blast 1.20 on my lockout stringer. I let it sit on the racquet for several days before I played, though. I imagine right off the machine it would have more shock.
Wow, my arm hurts just reading that! Dang, if you don't get some feel from that setup it's not going to happen at all for me.
Do you string for the *eventual* tension then? If so, how much of a drop do you assume? This is a question that has always bothered me when I see string reviews, since all polys lose tons of tension but not the same amount!
Nice photos! Shooting an SLR wide open (or have I been fooled by digital fakery?)?
For as long as we have been stringing there has been an ongoing discussion revolving around the pros and cons of altering the tension between the main strings and cross strings. Many years ago we concluded it was a matter of personal preference. The players in the camp advocating a lower set tension argued that because the cross strings are shorter they should be pulled at a lower tension. Those in the opposite camp believed that pulling at higher tension reduced string movement. Both camps argued emphatically that their method produced a better feel. When it comes to a criteria like “feel” we are in objective territory and that is why we concluded it was largely a personal preference.
However, back when we drew this conclusion we were not in the era of polys and hybrids. The physical properties of these strings have not only altered the game, but have also provided a strong rationale for increasing the tension on the cross strings.
When a racquet is strung with the set tension the same in the mains and the crosses the differential between the two (as measured by a Stringmeter) is often in the 32 – 37% range. You read that correctly. The mains will measure (on average) 35% tighter than the cross strings. In the context of a full synthetic or a natural gut setup, this has not been an issue. It has been status quo. However, with full polys or poly hybrids it is less than ideal. The differential in tension with poly-based strings should ideally fall in the range of 20 – 25%…no more. When the differential in tension is brought closer together, the mains and crosses are able to work in unison with one another. When they are further apart, (greater than 25%), the mains are punished until they stabilize and come closer in line with the crosses. The result of this in the today’s world of polys is that the poly mains become overstretched and thus lose their tension and playability rapidly. One easy way to extend the optimal life of your poly setup is to allow the crosses to support the mains. This extends the useful playability by a considerable amount.
Bringing the mains and crosses closer in tension offers HUGE benefits for poly players. It allows players to string at lower reference tensions where polys will shine, it extends the useful playability of the stringbed and extends the time players can get solid performance before having to restring. The easiest way to bring the mains and crosses closer to one another so they will work in unison is to increase the tension of the cross strings by approximately 4 pounds. The simple act of altering tension in this manner will definitely lead to a noticeable increase in performance in most instances. HOWEVER, when increasing the tension on the crosses it is possible to overstretch the poly, exceeding the elastic limits of the string. This is most likely to occur on constant pull machines that overshoot tension. Because of this potential pitfall we recommend keeping the tension on the crosses the same or up to 2 pounds lower than the mains and using extended pulling time before clamping off. The extended pulling time on a constant pull machine (much more difficult to achieve this effect on a crank machine) will produce the desired outcome much more reliably than increasing the set tension. We recommend keeping each cross under tension for 20 seconds before clamping off. This may seem like it will add considerable time to the stringing process, but it really does not. While the cross is under tension go ahead and pre-weave the next cross string. After weaving the cross, release the tension and clamp off. Stringing in this manner is a bit awkward at first, but soon the stringer becomes fluid in working with this method. The on court results are definitely worth the effort!
You mean sensation in the Main ?I will try my setup the other way around next time I string
no, the tensionYou mean sensation in the Main ?
Wow! We the plebs of TT need you guys that go above and beyond to find some centralized place to publish your results. There's no way in hell I could do the experimental work you did just to find out the properties of strings. Hybrids, especially, are a black box to most of us, I think (speaking mostly for myself, of course). And I'm a mechanical engineer, so you'd think I could figure some of this stuff out (there's just so many variables in tennis gear)! Anyway, you have my heartfelt thanks for sharing! And the photos are great too!I spent all last summer testing hybrids. What I found was the mains give the over all flavouring, but the crosses affect how much movement there is with the mains, and can hugely affect the overall feel as well.
Some beautiful stuff! I'm envious of all the travel and travel photography you've done, sir. What do you think of PBase? Do you use it as digital storage or just to display your pics? (my stuff all gets dumped into Google Photos, not the best solution) I shoot a Canon 60D, getting long in the digital tooth, and most often a Sigma Art 18-35 1.8 zoom (weighs a ton...basically a zooming prime!). Sorry for veering off the tennis highway! Talking tennis and photo geekery so beats working!The photos I post here are using my Olympus OMD-EM1 and a 25mm F1.7 lens or my Sony A7 with a 35mm F2.8 lens usually. My photos are on line @: https://pbase.com/wyk
Wow! We the plebs of TT need you guys that go above and beyond to find some centralized place to publish your results. There's no way in hell I could do the experimental work you did just to find out the properties of strings. Hybrids, especially, are a black box to most of us, I think (speaking mostly for myself, of course). And I'm a mechanical engineer, so you'd think I could figure some of this stuff out (there's just so many variables in tennis gear)! Anyway, you have my heartfelt thanks for sharing! And the photos are great too!
Nice to find the occasional silver lining in the Covid mess. That's still an impressive amount of work and dedication to this silly game we play! Not to mention and impressive (irrational??) investment in string!If it weren't for covid, it likely wouldn't have happened. I was in a remote area that had a remote tennis club at the time(and still work nearby a few times a year). Ireland was in lockdown and didn't allow you to travel more than two counties away if not for business purposes. So I literally didn't have a whole lot better to do.
Nice to find the occasional silver lining in the Covid mess. That's still an impressive amount of work and dedication to this silly game we play! Not to mention and impressive (irrational??) investment in string!
Also felt like it doesn't flex as much with lead added or at least it feels like that. Same with stiffer string job.
The APD has more spin and power ? Damn maybe I should try to find a used one until the arm falls off.
I demo the blade and own the Clash 98."clash is more powerful, blade is for control". Except now i have a demo of a blade 98 16x19, the blade is more powerful. I am hitting about 1.5 meters deeper with it, same string (hyper g, 48lbs, both fresh). Launch angle is similar... blade has more heft, and more power than the clash 100.
Anyone demo'd side by side and found the same?
What would you suggest as the best full poly on Clash 98 ?
I enjoyed a few strings in the Clash: tour bite soft, hyper G, tourna silver Tour 7. Cyclone tour 16g for more power. Those are all shaped strings. I did play a few months ago with Hurricane Tour , which seemed like a good fit.What would you suggest as the best full poly on Clash 98 ?
Amen, brother! That's the Clash conundrum in a nutshell.It's just so forgiving. I just wish it had better feel.
Check out what the Tennis Spin guy does to his Clash (about half lead by weight):And, I gotta say, sumfin about lead that takes away the flex in the hoop.