Opening a Pandora's Box - Frequency Matching

gameboy

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Reading through various posts about stringing on this board, many conjectures that are taken as gospel around here have very little connection to physics in the real world. But people swear by them, so they live on.

I would like to contribute my own little theory to the pool and in the process, open up a whole new Pandora's box that could be used to generate some extra revenue for stringers. The best thing about this theory that it does have some real physics background, though, whether or not it really matters is up for debate.

The idea is frequency matching.

What does that mean? First, a little physics primer.

When a ball meets the stringbed, how much the strings deform and how fast they return to their original position (and much of the "feel") are related to its vibrational frequency. That frequency is determined by thickness, material, span length, and tension. If the frequencies between each string (individual mains and crosses) are not matching each other, some will rebound little faster and some will rebound little slower - end result being they will fight each other's actions and make the whole string bed less effecient.

"Frequency Matching" can solve that problem. You can test each string as you string for their frequency and try to match each cross and main string to match frequencies of each other, making the whole string bed to work as one. (Just like what Davydenko is doing with by stringing the end crosses looser)

You can even take that to another level by finding the frequency of the racquet itself and find a harmonic frequency that will unite the racquet and strings together.

I am actually bit surprised that stringers don't offer this service already. Something very similar to this is already available for golf clubs.

Now, would this result in something that you can actually feel or make your swing better? Who knows? If nothing else, it can have some very strong placebo effect (although by mentioning it I am already greatly reducing that possibility).

But if Extenze can sell millions of caffeine pills as "male performance enhancer", I can see how a service like this could become very popular.

All you would need to do frequency matching would be a basic oscilloscope to measure the frequencies.

What say you?
 

mad_dr

New User
Seeing as you are creating a mesh with each cross strung, you are changing the characteristics of each string, and it is basically impossible to have an accurate reading. You'd string, measure, and when you moved on to the next string the whole system would have changed rendering your prior step void.

As to actual effect, assuming you can make the whole stringbed synchronize, how much would you gain? While there is contact with the ball, there is a different constraint, the strings are stretching and then tightening, shooting the ball cross court. The effects of vibration are only felt afterwards, with no applied force. As such, the fact that they are all unsynchronized will actually help dampen vibrations, ensuring that the stringbed is still when the next hit comes.

But just my point of view, I may have missinterpreted

cheers
 

SFrazeur

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Power Player

Bionic Poster
All that work for a strong placebo effect? That's impressive overthinking. Only time I care about frequencies is when I am doing music work.
 

jswinf

Professional
Plunking and listening to the mains as a clue to tension can be helpful, sure, but once you start putting in the crosses that's not gonna work. Of course, if there's cynical intent here I'm sure it can be marketed and sold to tennis players--all of us looking for that new miracle racket to raise our game, agonizing about 1.5 lbs tension more or less, hybrids, etc. Like the man said, there's a sucker born every minute.
 

stringwalla

Rookie
I customize racquets for a living, so I love to see so much pertinence placed on equipment. That keeps my bills paid.

But....

While the pros may be anal about equipment, all of their game is in their physical and mental abilities.

I could hand a top 200 player a 1983 Prince Graphite mid strung with nylon, give them an hour to adjust, and they would annihilate anyone reading this thread. That being said, the placebo effect can be a game enhancer.

Hurray for Extenze!!!
 

jim e

Legend
Okay, for you guys that want a placebo effect with your game go to
w w w dot so-stab dot com. It just looks like an expensive proportional stringing technique to raise revenues.Looks like they are attempting to market an idea, but its been done before, and no one really utilizes this proportional way of stringing.The USRSA has a proportional calculator to do a proportional job, but really not worth the effort. Especially if you have a # of racquets to string, and so much time, this would not be worth it to change tensions with each string. The customer would have to pay for this additional time to string it this way, and for what.
 
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Bud

Bionic Poster
I customize racquets for a living, so I love to see so much pertinence placed on equipment. That keeps my bills paid.

But....

While the pros may be anal about equipment, all of their game is in their physical and mental abilities.

I could hand a top 200 player a 1983 Prince Graphite mid strung with nylon, give them an hour to adjust, and they would annihilate anyone reading this thread. That being said, the placebo effect can be a game enhancer.


Hurray for Extenze!!!

Completely agree with this... equipment is like 5% of a person's real game. The other 95% is skill, physical ability etc. Liking a specific racquet or weighting and balancing a certain way simply makes one feel comfortable and confident in one's equipment... which may then make their game better.

There is no magic bullet to good tennis.
 
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