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FRV3
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Basement? I wish. Our basement is huge. I have a 100 square foot room, which I’ve been living in since the 4th grade. I am 25 now.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
It's laughable anyone even suggests it. Even at 34, there's no hard draw for Rafa at RG.
ibbi
G.O.A.T.
Because they all sucked and got knocked out by other guys? Damn shame he won't have that meaningless, contextless stat to impress the idiots on the internet.
Sinner has knocked out two of the maybe ten at worst best clay courters on the planet for the loss of one set, but he's not ranked in the top 70, so if he beats him it'll mean nothing. Drat.
Sinner has knocked out two of the maybe ten at worst best clay courters on the planet for the loss of one set, but he's not ranked in the top 70, so if he beats him it'll mean nothing. Drat.
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TheNachoMan
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Could've at least have given him Schwartzman
Could've at least have given him Schwartzman
Diego is in his half, not Djoko’s - same for Thiem - I have zero issue continuing to state the obvious, that his half is tougher than Novak’s
Genious at Work
G.O.A.T.
Nadal and Thiem had the worst draws. Djokovic just got a virtual walkover to the Final, really. Add to this the dumb move to change the balls to suit his game, and this is a disgrace, an scandal, a outrage.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
+1 he owns the field
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Not really Gioco has khachanov, pcb Tsitsipas/rublev
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
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Deleted member 748597
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How dare you.
Genious at Work
G.O.A.T.
Wow. Yeah, that's more impressive than having Zverev, Schwartzman, and Thiem in your half.
Spencer Gore
Legend
Nadal has a nightmare draw. One of the hardest in recent history.
Breakpointerer
Legend
The Blond Blur
G.O.A.T.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
You can put #8 in the 1st round, #7 in the 2nd round #6 in the 3rd round, world's # 5 in the 4th round ,
#4 in the QF etc, and it will still look like a puffy draw.
Heck put a healthy Federer in the mix as well for an extra round, and it will still be a cupcake
duaneeo
Legend
Yes. But blame the #6 for that.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Not saying that I'm trying to say they are not easy opponents for the serb
Leandro2045
Semi-Pro
Ask Evans, Fognini, Isner, Zverev and Goffin how it went for them when facing those players out of the Top 70......
Rafa is only playing people out of the Top 70 because the seeds were completely destroyed by those "mugs"
Rafa is only playing people out of the Top 70 because the seeds were completely destroyed by those "mugs"
Genious at Work
G.O.A.T.
Djokovic's draw is a joke compared to Nadal's and Thiem's, that is all. But Nadal's perspective just got a little bit easier with Zverev dropping off and Thiem going into a 4th set. The draw itself was much tougher to begin with, but sometimes draws get better if some seeds drop off.
Leandro2045
Semi-Pro
And in that scenario it would be a completely deserved grand slam title.
Or is now Rafa's problem he can beat Gaston and Busta while Thiem & Djokovic couldn't ?
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
This might need to be edited to the final
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
Why? Because he gets those draws consistently? We've known that for ages, though--it's not as if he started yesterday.
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TheNachoMan
Guest
Well, this thread may age like milk..
that match though
korda clearly didnt wanna win
this is the one thing i like about kyrgios..
he actually wants to beat the top players..
kyrgios should be the norm tho not the exception...
Omega_7000
Legend
It's amazing how lucky this guy always is.......or there is something going on behind the scenes to ensure he gets "lucky" everytime
Beckerserve
Legend
Everyone said Nadal had a tough draw originally. Cannot change opinions
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
if only he could also get berrettini in the SF and anderson in the F, damn
it's also perhaps worth commenting that sinner's current live ranking is 46
i get it, the next ranking hasn't been published yet, but in real time he's playing a top 50 player in the quarters
then he'll play a top 10 elite clay courter (either Thiem or Schwartzman fits this bill, Diego is now #10 per live rankings and would be #8 if he beats Thiem)
then Djokovic if he gets that far
there is no way Djoko would trade his quarters and semis draw with Rafa - no argument that Djoko has a tougher R16 draw, but let's be real he's not in danger of losing to Khachanov
i get it, the next ranking hasn't been published yet, but in real time he's playing a top 50 player in the quarters
then he'll play a top 10 elite clay courter (either Thiem or Schwartzman fits this bill, Diego is now #10 per live rankings and would be #8 if he beats Thiem)
then Djokovic if he gets that far
there is no way Djoko would trade his quarters and semis draw with Rafa - no argument that Djoko has a tougher R16 draw, but let's be real he's not in danger of losing to Khachanov
mike danny
Bionic Poster
LOL care to think of a Federer slam draw from 2004-2007 where he didn't face a top 70 player until the semis?
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
Cakewalk draws aren't the player's fault. So be it. Not Rafa's fault the other seeded players can't live up to their seeds.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Joking aside, at RG it doesn't really matter that he gets such an easy draw.
Now if he received such a draw in a non clay slam, hell would break loose.
Now if he received such a draw in a non clay slam, hell would break loose.
Born_to_slice
Legend
Zverev is out and Nadal can only play Schwartzman or Thiem, not both.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Kyrgios has sh*t the bed against the top guys many times. He is overrated as heck.
Beckerserve
Legend
As opposed to say Gonzales you mean or Phillipousis? #justsaying
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Beckerserve
Legend
The haters made their bed now have to lie in it. I created a thread called dream draw for rafa and everyone was saying i was playing mind games and Nadal was in trouble. Well, too late for people to say its a cake walk.Yet some were moaning on here that djoko had the cakewalk when the draw came out!
I on the other hand have that luxury as i said he had a gift of a draw and thiem was a good draw this event as we saw today.
You and i both said Djokovic had it tougher.
Beckerserve
Legend
Baby Nadal you mean. Think he was about sinner age.
Any way lets agree a Nadal v Djokovic final is perfect for tennis. Makes slam race great doesnt it.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
By baby Nadal you mean the FO champion, Wimbledon finalist and the fact that he won Indian Wells (beating Roddick and Djokovic) just a month after this match? This baby Nadal?
abmk
Bionic Poster
Gonzalez crushed nadal in the QF
also crushed Haas in the SF (40+ winners to 3-5 UEs) - unreal numbers
played well in the final
phillipoussis also played fairly well in the Wim 03 final, though not great.
unlike "I make nadal's serve look like ivanisevic's" in USO 17 final anderson or awful play for first 2 sets from the same anderson in Wim 18 final.
Beckerserve
Legend
Yep the very same. Your logic is a bit like giving Nadal extra credence for USO 2017 for beating Del Potro who beat Federer no?
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