If you include Queens:Legit it would.
This is how that season would look like:
- He'd have an 83-6 record
- Calendar slam
- 5 Masters Titles (IW, Miami, Madrid, Cincy and Shanghai)
- 10 Overall Titles (Doha, AO, IW, Miami, Madrid, RG, Wimbledon, Cincy, USO, and Shanghai)
- 14 Finals (Doha, AO, IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome, RG, Wimbledon, Cincy, USO, Shanghai, Bercy and WTF)
That'd easily be the GOAT season imo. On the complete flip side, 2nd half of 2016 and the 1st half of 2018 would've been one of the most horrid seasons ever by an ATG.
Legit it would.
This is how that season would look like:
- He'd have an 83-6 record (93%)
- Calendar slam
- 5 Masters Titles (IW, Miami, Madrid, Cincy and Shanghai)
- 10 Overall Titles (Doha, AO, IW, Miami, Madrid, RG, Wimbledon, Cincy, USO, and Shanghai)
- 14 Finals (Doha, AO, IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome, RG, Queens, Wimbledon, Cincy, USO, Shanghai, Bercy and WTF)
That'd easily be the GOAT season imo. On the complete flip side, 2nd half of 2016 and the 1st half of 2018 would've been one of the most horrid seasons ever by an ATG.
Hmm. Thought the consensus would be 2018 > 2016. Guess not
In this case, for 16 Nole, I’m only measuring what he accomplished up to RG, and with 18 Nole, I’m only measuring from grass season onwards.You forgot, that Novak actually won Toronto back in 2016, its 6 masters and 11 titles and 15 finals! LOL...
2012:How are people deciding which is best and worst among 12, 13 and 14?
Missing the WTF. Not good enough.Legit it would.
This is how that season would look like:
- He'd have an 83-6 record (93%)
- Calendar slam
- 5 Masters Titles (IW, Miami, Madrid, Cincy and Shanghai)
- 10 Overall Titles (Doha, AO, IW, Miami, Madrid, RG, Wimbledon, Cincy, USO, and Shanghai)
- 14 Finals (Doha, AO, IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome, RG, Queens, Wimbledon, Cincy, USO, Shanghai, Bercy and WTF)
That'd easily be the GOAT season imo. On the complete flip side, 2nd half of 2016 and the 1st half of 2018 would've been one of the most horrid seasons ever by an ATG.
Lol math, espcailly mental math has never been my strong suit, let me re-calculate it real quick:If you include Queens:
W/L: 81-7 (42-3 for 1st half 2016) + (39-4 for 2nd half 2018) (not sure how you got 83-6)
15 finals
2014 is the worst IMO. Easier season than 2012 and 2013 and Novak only won 1 slam. The loss to Nishikori in a slam SF has to be the worst slam loss in his prime.How are people deciding which is best and worst among 12, 13 and 14?
In 2013, he reached only one tournament final in between Monte Carlo and US Open and IMO had worse performances when he did make them.2014 is the worst IMO. Easier season than 2012 and 2013 and Novak only won 1 slam. The loss to Nishikori in a slam SF has to be the worst slam loss in his prime.
2017
2011
2015
2016
2018
2012
2013
2014
2008
2009
2007
2010
2006
2005
Yeah, fair enough. I just think the Nishikori loss was worse than any of his losses in 2013.In 2013, he reached only one tournament final in between Monte Carlo and US Open and IMO had worse performances when he did make them.
That's true for sure.Yeah, fair enough. I just think the Nishikori loss was worse than any of his losses in 2013.
In 2013, he reached only one tournament final in between Monte Carlo and US Open and IMO had worse performances when he did make them.
2 of them were de facto finals (RG SF and Canada SF) tbh.
Wait until Sport comes up with Nadal defeating 26 year old Djokovic in the USO final, therefore Novak was peak.Yeah but even so the losses in IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome and Cincy only making one SF between them was quite bad.
Wait until Sport comes up with Nadal defeating 26 year old Djokovic in the USO final, therefore Novak was peak.
Yeah but even so the losses in IW, Miami, Madrid, Rome and Cincy only making one SF between them was quite bad.
Couldn't agree more with this list. I especially like the fact that you put 2012 above 2013, I always had an impression he performed really well (and clutch) in 2012, was still very strong during the first part of the HC season and didn't have losses to a players like 40 years old Haas.2015
2011
2016
2018
2012
2013
2014
2008
2007
2009
2010
2017
2006
2005
2004
2003
He won 1 extra tennis masters 1000 event that year though. As usual, in my book winning big events trumps making the finals/semis of slams and losing when there.2014 is the worst IMO. Easier season than 2012 and 2013 and Novak only won 1 slam. The loss to Nishikori in a slam SF has to be the worst slam loss in his prime.
2012 is easily his best 1 slam year. 2014 still boggles my mind. A Djokovic playing at his best wins 3 slams easily in 2014. 2012 Djokovic probably wins 2 slams in 2014. I doubt 2012 Djokovic beats Fed at Wimby.2014 is the worst IMO. Easier season than 2012 and 2013 and Novak only won 1 slam. The loss to Nishikori in a slam SF has to be the worst slam loss in his prime.
My point exactly2012 is easily his best 1 slam year. 2014 still boggles my mind. A Djokovic playing at his best wins 3 slams easily in 2014. 2012 Djokovic probably wins 2 slams in 2014. I doubt 2012 Djokovic beats Fed at Wimby.
The way I see it. If we put 2012 Djokoviv into 2014 he probably wins 2 slams. But if we were to put 2014 Djokovic into 2012, he probably goes slamlessCouldn't agree more with this list. I especially like the fact that you put 2012 above 2013, I always had an impression he performed really well (and clutch) in 2012, was still very strong during the first part of the HC season and didn't have losses to a players like 40 years old Haas.
2007 is certainly above 2009 (he was only better on clay and during the indoor season) and 2010.
Personally, his level was highest in 2011 imo, the ground game, the defense, his return and especially the mental game were superior to any of his later performances, he just couldn't sustain that level after the US Open. His game was more efficient (over a longer period of time) in 2015, though - better serve certainly helped.
Level wise:
2011/2015 - very hard to separate, but just have to go with 2011 due to the tougher competition, especially how he dismantled peak Nadal.
2016
2012/2013/2014 - I find hard to separate.
2018
2008
2007
2009
2010
2017
2006
2005.
2020... we don't talk about 2020...2015 > 2011 > 2021 >
2019 > 2016 > 2012 >
2018 > 2013 > 2014 >
2008 > 2007 > 2009
2020... we don't talk about 2020...
I could understand leaving out 05 and 06, but 2010, 2017, and 2020 are weird. 2017 less so because of injury, but still.He forgot 2005, 2006 and 2010 as well. And I wouldn’t put 2008 above 2007. He was better at AO but 2007 season as whole > 2008 one.
I could understand leaving out 05 and 06, but 2010, 2017, and 2020 are weird. 2017 less so because of injury, but still.