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Well, at least that mystery is solved.
What’s the secret deal between them? Possibly exchanging with wearing Nike shoes without pay?
What, you mean only put it on the not so ugly stuff?Cool they can put it on Uniqlo stuff that isn't sold or available anywhere.
Yeah, he's not wearing shoes for free in some swapsie. The logo deal is separate and there was an existing arrangement of how to handle a parting of ways as Federer has hinted at every time he's mentioned the status of the logo.Unless Federer confirms it personally or officially via someone else it is not resolved, but rumours have been circulating from a couple of weeks that that is the case.
Occam's Razor: it's being resolved exactly as their existing agreement had already planned for.Why does it have to be a secret deal? Maybe (if true, of course) they have finally resolved their issues or there was a clause that says in what circumstances the logo transfers back to Federer. After all, he hinted as much right at the beginning of the whole logo saga.
Occam's Razor: it's being resolved exactly as their existing agreement had already planned for.
Federer originally said in 2018: "The “RF” logo is with Nike at the moment, but it will come to me at some point. I hope rather sooner than later, that Nike can be nice and helpful in the process to bring it over to me."
He made it sound like there was no clarity on the time frame, and that the details were still not 100% defined. New agreements can be made, old agreements can be amended.
Noticed he’s wearing Nike RF shoes again at the uso. Which I think he hasn’t been in quite a while.
He wears RF shoes since Madrid.
So, like I said, Occam's Razor: it's happening now exactly as their agreement intended. Back then he might have been trying to speed up timing of the transfer and that's where the parties didn't find a meeting of minds or a path they were both happy with. And so, Occam's Razor again, Fed has just waited out the time. No panic, no public bust-ups, just sorting it in an appropriate manner.Federer originally said in 2018: "The “RF” logo is with Nike at the moment, but it will come to me at some point. I hope rather sooner than later, that Nike can be nice and helpful in the process to bring it over to me."
He made it sound like there was no clarity on the time frame, and that the details were still not 100% defined. New agreements can be made, old agreements can be amended.
PeRFectly put mateCool they can put it on Uniqlo stuff that isn't sold or available anywhere.
This is our green light to sell these Uniqlo tshirts with RF logo on it in millions. we can sell it in my shopify store. Everyone that saw your tshirts are either amazed by it or they are extremely jealous that they can't buy it.........LOLWhat’s the secret deal between them? Possibly exchanging with wearing Nike shoes without pay?
If Uniqlo don't stamp the logo on merchandise and let them sell like hotcakes i have nothing to say.
He wears RF shoes since Madrid.
He wears RF shoes since Madrid.
The vast majority of the Uniqlo France stores are located around Paris for the benefit of aesthetically challenged tourists; but seeing as in your estimation France is about the size of Manhattan, the vast majority of the country's populace will be able to just walk in no?
Sorry, okay then lets accept your statement that something under half (11) of their stores are located around Paris; then according to you the remaining 15 non-Parisian stores coupled with a lack of on line availability are enough to 'force' the remaining 55 million non-Parisian French residents spread over 500,000 square kilometres plus to travel huge distances to shop in store rather than on line!
Again if we exclude Paris, there's one store in every 33,000 square kilometres; with saturation like that, obviously you wouldn't bother to shop on line, you'd make the effort to journey forever just to shop the extensive tennis range that is undoubtedly present in every shop.
Again if we exclude Paris, there's one store in every 33,000 square kilometres; with saturation like that, obviously you wouldn't bother to shop on line, you'd make the effort to journey forever just to shop the extensive tennis range that is undoubtedly present in every shop.
Well, at least that mystery is solved.
Wonder how much he paid for that.
What residuals does Nike get and what does Fed get?
What roayalties for Nike moving forward?
I am betting that is all part of it.
They certainly aren't giving him the rights.
Someone enlighten a guy who cant give a stuff about clothes shoes etc. Whats the point of nike having his logo if he doesnt even wear the brand anymore and they cant use it?
The ways some people are so entangled in keeping believing are fricking hilarious.
Please, enlighten us what is the source of the following suggestions in your post:
1) that Federer had to pay something to get his logo back
2) that there are residuals (what does that even mean?) for either side
3) that Nike will receive royalties "moving forward"
4) makes you believe that they "are not giving him the rights"
That is even before it is even sure that the information that the logo transfers to Federer is true.
I'm very curious about how all this unfolds. For all I know, it could all have already been worked out behind closed doors and general public wouldn't get to know diddly squat about the workings details. So many theories here for RF logo on TW it is beyond amusing, lolWonder how much he paid for that.
What residuals does Nike get and what does Fed get?
What roayalties for Nike moving forward?
I am betting that is all part of it.
They certainly aren't giving him the rights.
Please, post the relevant source that states under what conditions "Nike owns the rights" for the RF logo. The source you mention is irrelevant to that. Also, do you make a difference between scenarios where by contract Nike owns the rights until certain conditions are met and then doesn't after that?
Those statements indicate that you have intimate knowledge of what is written in the contract between Federer and Nike. Do you have such knowledge?
Why would they do that, if they straightforward own the logo as you say? They could sell RF shoes. The market for those certainly hasn't disappeared, so why?
Again, I have to ask, where have you got that information from? You are venturing into absurd outcomes and go from there to prove that the scenarios that lead to those outcomes are also ridiculous.
It looks like for many Nike fans the only way of regulating business deals when the developments don't go according to their expectations is who will manage to screw the other side worse (and in their mind Nike always has the upper hand). Apart from that being indictment of the company you are sympathetic to, if it conducts its business that way, it doesn't say a thing about the details in the contract in discussion, and that is all that matters.
I read before here from the same people that Federer would never leave Nike (because, you see, Nike are the best) , then that Federer would never receive the money that he is rumoured to have gotten (because if Nike didn't give it to him, no one can, because, again, Nike are the biggest buyer and noone can afford to spent more than them), then I read that Federer will be begging them to get back on board (because Nike are so awesome, that only in their sphere life is meaningful, forget 300 mil dollars bigger wealth), then I read that Federer has blown his chance to secure his legacy as a brand (as if Nike makes the RF brand), then I read how Federer would never get his logo back (because Nike are so powerful and so awesome in their ways that they will keep it even if it doesn't make business sense to "punish" Federer even if the contract actually says something else), and now I read that Federer will be paying dearly for the return of his logo.
So, based on all of the above and IF Federer actually gets his logo back, I advice you and everyone like you to put that in your head: unless the details from the contract concerning the transition are made public, no one knows actually how and why the logo was transferred to Federer. It can be any sort of agreement that is in the contract.
This is absolutely not the case at all. They has usage rights as long as he was involved and then some hangover at the end for many practical reasons. All along Federer has said the logo will be coming to him, whether soon or later. He would not say that if there wasn't some existing agreement between the parties as to the ongoing use of the logo.The source is any website with info on abandoned trademarks.
Plain and simple, Nike owns the rights.
Nike, being a massive, experienced company would find a way to use it enough to prevent any sort of argument being formed if that was the case.The only way Fed could get them back is to have the right usage expire under normal terms
We do, however, know that there was an agreement because everything Federer has said indicates that.Nike kinda Diss'ing Fed and keeping the logo is purely business and showd they aren't going to give it to him.
I doubt we will really know specifics of what deal was struck, but something of what I stated transpired.
So it is November now, when will the rf logo be reunited with Fed? I am looking to buy some merchandise eg polls and other.
Best logo
FDER?Best logo