Should he be Dq?

[Bionic slice]

I have a question about usta tournaments and fair play, can player who plays for a college , enters 3.5 and wins 3.5 sanctioned tournament winning 2 matches of the 3 matches 1, 0 be allowed to stay in 3.5....wait for it...This player then enters 4.5 major zone and goes 1-1 in that tournament? Should this player get get Dq for 3.5 win after his winning a 4.5 match?? Should he be pump to at least 4.0??
This player also won CF in 4.0 tournament and Lost in a 1st rd USONP - Sectional Qualifying (Texas) - 809713514 (USONPMSQOps) just wondering if the usta cares about this kind of stuff?? I know so people sandbag , any thoughts

 

[JLyon]

if he/she is playing for a college currently, then that is an easy grievance to be filed, if college is D2 or D1 then should be minimum 5.0/5.5. If D3 or JUCO then could slide into 4.5

 

[goober]

There are no Dqs for tournament play. He could get DQ if he ventures into league play. I know a former d1 college player (low level) that played open tournies and lost in early rounds and then started playing 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5 tourneys. At the end of the year he had a T rating and he could no longer enter tournaments below his rating.

 

[beernutz]

It wasn't too hard to find out which player you are talking about with tennislink OP and it does bite that a college player, even a DIII one, would stoop that low to play in the 3.5 division. However, like what others have already said, I don't think you have any recourse and I don't think he can be DQed.

EDIT: I just thought of something you could do. Email all his teammates and coach about his playing in the 3.5 division of a tournament and he is probably going to get ridiculed by them. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out their email addresses from the team roster. Send them this link to the USTA self rate guidelines which shows that he should be playing at least at the 5.0 level since he is NAIA, Div. II & III unranked college team player (commited to, playing, or played ) - program with no scholarships Age 25 and under.
http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/ExperiencedGuidelines_02142011_V2pdf.pdf

 

[Orange]

There are no Dqs for tournament play. He could get DQ if he ventures into league play. I know a former d1 college player (low level) that played open tournies and lost in early rounds and then started playing 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5 tourneys. At the end of the year he had a T rating and he could no longer enter tournaments below his rating.

There may be no DQs for tournament play, but I think a grievance should be filed for lying on his self-rate form.

 

[anubis]

The minute this player plays USTA 18 & Over league, it will be an easy DQ.

Too bad umpires can't DQ people. I was playing districts last weekend and was watching a 3.5 singles match. I'm a 3.5 as well, so I was "scouting" our competition. There was a match going on that claimed to be 3.5, but quality of play was closer to 4.5. One guy had a one handed backhand that was as fast as my first serve. After a few amazing pro-style points, the umpire just turned around and chuckled to himself. Even he knew this was no where near 3.5 play. But, he can't do anything about it.

 

[J_R_B]

There may be no DQs for tournament play, but I think a grievance should be filed for lying on his self-rate form.

Depending on the section, you don't always have to fill out the form or officially self-rate to play NTRP tournaments.

 

[Orange]

Depending on the section, you don't always have to fill out the form or officially self-rate to play NTRP tournaments.

I wasn't aware of that. I believe my section requires an official NTRP rating.

I would think tournament participation by honest players would be drastically lower in sections where players can play wherever they wish than in sections where official NTRP ratings are required and grievances are considered.

 

[J_R_B]

I wasn't aware of that. I believe my section requires an official NTRP rating.

I would think tournament participation by honest players would be drastically lower in sections where players can play wherever they wish than in sections where official NTRP ratings are required and grievances are considered.

Honestly, sandbagging to play in tournaments really isn't an issue here. If anything, tons of people play up in tournaments.

 

[goober]

There may be no DQs for tournament play, but I think a grievance should be filed for lying on his self-rate form.

There is no self rate form for tournaments in our section. You just sign up. You can sign up for any level you want if you don't have an official rating.

 

[tdhawks]

It's funny I open this thread up to read what basically happened to me today.

Played a sanctioned tournament today at 4.0 and played a kid in the quarterfinals who was pretty solid. I was talking to him afterwards and he told me he plays singles for a D3 school in Texas. He was playing JR's last year so he didn't have an NTRP rating. He was All-Conference Honorable Mention as a Freshman this past year.

Not sure why he wouldn't enter at Open or even at 4.5. Good news is I only lost 5-7, 3-6. I had my chances and couldn't close. At the end of the day, the talent gap was just too wide.

 

[aussta54]

Yeah, in Texas you don't have to self rate for tourneys...the #1 guy in 3.5 hasn't even self rated. Good news is, the only people who qualify for the Texas adult masters championship at the end of the year are computer or tournament rated players. No self rates or non rated players.

 

[mikeler]

It's funny I open this thread up to read what basically happened to me today.

Played a sanctioned tournament today at 4.0 and played a kid in the quarterfinals who was pretty solid. I was talking to him afterwards and he told me he plays singles for a D3 school in Texas. He was playing JR's last year so he didn't have an NTRP rating. He was All-Conference Honorable Mention as a Freshman this past year.

Not sure why he wouldn't enter at Open or even at 4.5. Good news is I only lost 5-7, 3-6. I had my chances and couldn't close. At the end of the day, the talent gap was just too wide.

Not a bad result for you at all.

 

[PK6]

There is no self rate form for tournaments in our section. You just sign up. You can sign up for any level you want if you don't have an official rating.

And that’s what’s wrong with USTA!!! If you’ve played college/high school tennis your 4.0!!! No exceptions!!!! To much of this has gone on with 3.0/3.5 self ratings! No way you’re rated. That !!! It’s killed USTA. It’s cheating and those who do this need to be banned from playing USTA forever.

 

[FuzzyYellowBalls]

This thread is from 2014, let it be, go to the gym

 

[PK6]

Can’t do that!!! It’s worse now then in 2014!!!