Some groundies (video)

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Roger#1

Rookie
Here is a little practice session which was all groundstrokes in the heat of Texas, so I didn't stay out long. Will get some volleys and serves up tomorrow. Will also try to get some different angles if I can find a place to put my flip recorder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNrnZRj91RA

New video from today. We got a little bit of everything today. When I was hitting I tried to fix the forehand, so let me know how it looks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQgLXiHSqBE
 
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Blake0

Hall of Fame
Okay i love games :), i'll start off by guessing 4.0-4.5..most likely 4.5..
Btw, nice strokes, like the 1hbh :)..
 
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SuperJimmy

SuperJimmy

Rookie
I agree, you have a nice looking backhand. It looks like it is more solid than your forehand. From a distance it looks like you have a tendency to sometimes arm the ball more on the forehand side without rotating the body. But either way, the shots still looks effective.

Is this the Flip Mino camera you are using? I was thinking of getting one. Your video is pretty decent quality.
 
Solat

Solat

Professional
SuperJimmy said:
I agree, you have a nice looking backhand. It looks like it is more solid than your forehand. From a distance it looks like you have a tendency to sometimes arm the ball more on the forehand side without rotating the body. But either way, the shots still looks effective.
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totally agree here, FH is total arm, the hips trail the stroke looks quite inefficient

the backhand is however very good, totally controlled and balanced, the lack of body movt helps on this wing
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
Solat said:
totally agree here, FH is total arm, the hips trail the stroke looks quite inefficient

the backhand is however very good, totally controlled and balanced, the lack of body movt helps on this wing
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Yeah, I will fix the forehand today. I know what I need to do to fix it, so I will put some forehands in my video today along with the volleys and serves. Thanks guys.
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
SuperJimmy said:
I agree, you have a nice looking backhand. It looks like it is more solid than your forehand. From a distance it looks like you have a tendency to sometimes arm the ball more on the forehand side without rotating the body. But either way, the shots still looks effective.

Is this the Flip Mino camera you are using? I was thinking of getting one. Your video is pretty decent quality.
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This is just the original Flip Video, I think they have the Flip Mini and something else. They work well for stuff like this.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
You hit good.
Your movement is stiff and lacking.
As said, your forehand is off, and one day won't fix it.
You have problems getting consistent depth on your backhand, which is better than your forehand.
As so, 3.5 to 4.0 tournament, you'd get your forehand picked on, and you're not consistent enough for real mid level 4.5's.
 
Dreamer

Dreamer

Professional
Pretty strokes, but mistakes on forehand with mild hitting. Weak slice. Don't see a lot of angles. I'd like to see your serve first, but I'll echo fruitytennis1.

Strong 4.0, weak 4.5.

You have a pretty backhand and a good foundation. You make some mistakes on positioning your body. Sometimes you don't give yourself enough time.
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
Just to let everybody know, I was hitting with my mom so I wasn't trying to blast the ball at her and run her around, that would be mean. New video up with serves and volleys so you can see the rest of my game.
 
dr325i

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Roger#1 said:
Just to let everybody know, I was hitting with my mom so I wasn't trying to blast the ball at her and run her around, that would be mean. New video up with serves and volleys so you can see the rest of my game.
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Again, the NTRP rating applies to the actual match played which could be completely different than the "practice" play.
IF you play your official matches the same way as in this video, I would say you're 4.5 (or higher if you move exceptionally fine).
Serve looks nice - great toss, motion, racket speed...
FH is consistent and nice.
BH is the least impressive shot that I have seen in the videos. Looks like a weak shot?
Nice volleys/overheads, too

So, what is your NTRP rating?
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
dr325i said:
Again, the NTRP rating applies to the actual match played which could be completely different than the "practice" play.
IF you play your official matches the same way as in this video, I would say you're 4.5 (or higher if you move exceptionally fine).
Serve looks nice - great toss, motion, racket speed...
FH is consistent and nice.
BH is the least impressive shot that I have seen in the videos. Looks like a weak shot?
Nice volleys/overheads, too

So, what is your NTRP rating?
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Yeah, its always hard to video tape matches, especially with my Flip. I will be playing in a tournament in September and will see what I can record. I go for a lot more on my forehand to open up the court but my backhand is very consistent. My serve, first and second, is probably my best shot.
 
dr325i

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Roger#1 said:
Yeah, its always hard to video tape matches, especially with my Flip. I will be playing in a tournament in September and will see what I can record. I go for a lot more on my forehand to open up the court but my backhand is very consistent. My serve, first and second, is probably my best shot.
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you mentioned you were already ranked - what level is it? (or you're still playing the game here? ;))

I'd say (from what I saw) that you're playing very close to me...or should I say I am playing close level to you...
 
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aptennis91

Rookie
Your mom is a very good hitting partner btw.
I think you are very solid in all areas, definitely seems like you've been playing for a while. I'm not very familiar with the NTRP, but probably 4.0 and above..
BTW, don't know about the song choice for a hitting session with ur mom..... (jk)
 
5263

5263

G.O.A.T.
Roger#1 said:
Yeah, its always hard to video tape matches, especially with my Flip. I will be playing in a tournament in September and will see what I can record. I go for a lot more on my forehand to open up the court but my backhand is very consistent. My serve, first and second, is probably my best shot.
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That is super that your second serve is one of your better shots.

I thought your balance looked much better on your volleys than it did on your ground strokes. I think a more balanced and stable hitting platform will fix most of your consistency problems off both wings.
 
ryangoring

ryangoring

Professional
Ok. about time we have someone who has a 1hbh, love it! but it looks compact, not any real extension on it when you hit it full. the BH slice is ok. but it is a pleasure to watch. forehand looks strong. nice footwork i might add as well.
very strong game. 4.5-5.0...

Just saw your other video, forget what i said about the full hit 1HBH. it is a joy to watch. thanks
 
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mark1

Semi-Pro
strong vids man, the backhand looks super smooth very nice

where do you play in houston? i live there for the summer, but have no clue where to play.

admittedly, im not quite as strong a player as you after some time away from the game

good stuff though man, forehand looked better in the second vid
 
imalil2gangsta4u

imalil2gangsta4u

Hall of Fame
Very nice strokes. Btw i live in houston too and those courts are the exact same colors as the ones at my school.
 
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ubermeyer

ubermeyer

Hall of Fame
Roger#1 said:
Here is a little practice session which was all groundstrokes in the heat of Texas, so I didn't stay out long. Will get some volleys and serves up tomorrow. Will also try to get some different angles if I can find a place to put my flip recorder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNrnZRj91RA

New video from today. We got a little bit of everything today. When I was hitting I tried to fix the forehand, so let me know how it looks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQgLXiHSqBE
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I watched video #2. Your volleys/overheads look beautiful and your forehand is clean.

what is up with your account name?
 
USERNAME

USERNAME

Professional
Hmmmm strong 4.0-mid 4.5 without seeing match play. On what u could do better, the FH even in the 2nd vid is mostly arm. Shoulder rotation on the FH is ok (could load up a little more) but u could keep ur off hand and left shoulder turned slightly longer. Doin this will give u a cleaner, steadier, and more powerful shot. Perfect example of the shoulder turn and uncoiling is Murray, watch his hd vids. And the other thing that i saw was ur using a predominantly closed stance on the FH wing. A closed stance makes it quite hard to use ur legs and hips in ur shots (i.e. rotating the hips.) If u can, switch to an open stance. Learn to rotate heavily and u will b rewarded with a heavier, more penetrating shot (not to mention more control and less fatigue in the arm and shoulder.) Rotating fully is hard to get down, took me 30 days of my coach yellin and gettin on my case to get it into a habit, but it pays off. Now the BH is pretty nice, the only thing i see that could b done is to step into the shot rather then steppin accross ur body. That is really minor but i noticed an increase in depth and placement control when i started doin it, so i think its worth it. Vollies r nice and serve looks solid.
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
aptennis91 said:
Your mom is a very good hitting partner btw.
I think you are very solid in all areas, definitely seems like you've been playing for a while. I'm not very familiar with the NTRP, but probably 4.0 and above..
BTW, don't know about the song choice for a hitting session with ur mom..... (jk)
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Thanks, that didn't even come into mind when I was making the movie. *******...LOL
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
ryangoring said:
Ok. about time we have someone who has a 1hbh, love it! but it looks compact, not any real extension on it when you hit it full. the BH slice is ok. but it is a pleasure to watch. forehand looks strong. nice footwork i might add as well.
very strong game. 4.5-5.0...

Just saw your other video, forget what i said about the full hit 1HBH. it is a joy to watch. thanks
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Yeah, I love watching anybody with a nice 1hbh, although not many people use a 1hbh and if they do its mainly a slice. Thanks for the comments man.
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
mark1 said:
strong vids man, the backhand looks super smooth very nice

where do you play in houston? i live there for the summer, but have no clue where to play.

admittedly, im not quite as strong a player as you after some time away from the game

good stuff though man, forehand looked better in the second vid
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Well, most of the time I play out of Memorial Park or Lee Leclear, but you have to pay some court fees for both. I also have some friends that are strong players that I hit with at courts around my area.
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
ubermeyer said:
I watched video #2. Your volleys/overheads look beautiful and your forehand is clean.

what is up with your account name?
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Thanks a lot man. I play tons of doubles so my net game is pretty strong. Like USERNAME said, its from the Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star movie. Change up the N and F.
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
USERNAME said:
Hmmmm strong 4.0-mid 4.5 without seeing match play. On what u could do better, the FH even in the 2nd vid is mostly arm. Shoulder rotation on the FH is ok (could load up a little more) but u could keep ur off hand and left shoulder turned slightly longer. Doin this will give u a cleaner, steadier, and more powerful shot. Perfect example of the shoulder turn and uncoiling is Murray, watch his hd vids. And the other thing that i saw was ur using a predominantly closed stance on the FH wing. A closed stance makes it quite hard to use ur legs and hips in ur shots (i.e. rotating the hips.) If u can, switch to an open stance. Learn to rotate heavily and u will b rewarded with a heavier, more penetrating shot (not to mention more control and less fatigue in the arm and shoulder.) Rotating fully is hard to get down, took me 30 days of my coach yellin and gettin on my case to get it into a habit, but it pays off. Now the BH is pretty nice, the only thing i see that could b done is to step into the shot rather then steppin accross ur body. That is really minor but i noticed an increase in depth and placement control when i started doin it, so i think its worth it. Vollies r nice and serve looks solid.
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Yeah, I am trying get the forehand down by my next tournament. About the closed stance, 90% of the time during matches I use an open stance. I will be hitting with a 5.0+ player this week and he hits the **** out of the ball so I will be going all out, and will most likely post that video. Thanks for the tips.
 
dr325i

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
Roger#1 said:
Yeah, I am trying get the forehand down by my next tournament. About the closed stance, 90% of the time during matches I use an open stance. I will be hitting with a 5.0+ player this week and he hits the **** out of the ball so I will be going all out, and will most likely post that video. Thanks for the tips.
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oh, C'moooonnn, tell us your rating ;)
 
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2ndServe

Hall of Fame
nice strokes, maybe you're trying to be nice to your hitting partner but the forehand doesn't seem very forceful. Anyways people are always trying to label others with an ntrp rating and put to much weight in it.

These are the only ingredients that matter in a match. A good 2nd serve, ability to attack a short ball, good service return, and the abiility to not offer up the short ball yourself. Honestly that is it.
 
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Nellie

Hall of Fame
Some small comments:

Your backhand volley and backhand slice are too "choppy" - you would get a better result and more consistency by thinking of finishing out with a more vertical swing path and not down - this is one of the reasons that your slice backhand is floats

On the volleys, bend your knees and try to keep the racquet head above the handle. You do a lot of low volleys by dropping the racquet head, which will send back a floater. If I see that playing doubles, I would poach and hammer that shot every time.
 
USERNAME

USERNAME

Professional
Roger#1 said:
Yeah, I am trying get the forehand down by my next tournament. About the closed stance, 90% of the time during matches I use an open stance. I will be hitting with a 5.0+ player this week and he hits the **** out of the ball so I will be going all out, and will most likely post that video. Thanks for the tips.
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Thats good, hittin with 5.0+ players is great practice. I play alot with players from the d1 and d2 squads near me, its good to play the higher lvl people cause thats all ull c in college.
 
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Roger#1

Rookie
USERNAME said:
Thats good, hittin with 5.0+ players is great practice. I play alot with players from the d1 and d2 squads near me, its good to play the higher lvl people cause thats all ull c in college.
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Yeah, it helps me out a lot. I just played against a guy that played D1 tennis at Texas A&M Corpus Christi, his name is Javier Bacaicoa. It was a good match but guys like that are on just a whole other lever. Here is a vid of him hitting with someone you may of heard of...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojmH6drYFKA
 
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