Have been playing with the wilson clash 100 for a while now and have somewhat gotten bored of it and have recently become interested in the head gravity pro or tour as I have heard good things about it. One of my main worries is how my full western grip will play on the Head gravity and would also like to get some more feedback on this racket.
Stay with Clash 100 Tour/Pro or get Gravity Pro or tour
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jalapeno74
Rookie
Very different raquets... if you are a modern, heavy spin player my guess would be to stay with the Clash.
The Gravity line is awesome but less powerful and rewards flat strokes. Of course you can play with heavy spin with them as well but there are probably better suited options out there
The Gravity line is awesome but less powerful and rewards flat strokes. Of course you can play with heavy spin with them as well but there are probably better suited options out there
Clash Ah ah
Rookie
Are you somewhere that’s in lockdown or can you play?
I’m in lockdown in the UK and that’s making me wanna try a different racquet. Just to buy something tennis related, for a tennis fix.
I’m in lockdown in the UK and that’s making me wanna try a different racquet. Just to buy something tennis related, for a tennis fix.
Thanks for the input, very much a heavy spin player so I guess gravity probably isn't the best option. Do you mind giving me any other suggestions for other rackets? Thanks
From the UK but I'm in France for the moment, can play outside luckily.
guilhermefdc
Semi-Pro
If you’re interested in Head frames, have a look on the Extreme line - I’d guess the MP would be the most similar to the Clash and the Tour would be somewhere in the middle of the road between the Clash and the Gravity Pro (all are very different frames, but that’s roughly how I would classify them)
What I meant by bored is the lack of control in some instances with the clash
smalahove
Hall of Fame
The Gravity Pro has a 20 mm flat beam, whereas the Clash Pro clocks in at 24.5 mm.
That's a massive difference in feel. You might like it, but be sure to test it out if you can.
The Gravity Tour has a 22 mm flat beam, but is less of a departure from the the Clash Pro as it has a more modern feel than the Gravity Pro.
That's a massive difference in feel. You might like it, but be sure to test it out if you can.
The Gravity Tour has a 22 mm flat beam, but is less of a departure from the the Clash Pro as it has a more modern feel than the Gravity Pro.
If you are looking for the next step I would lean towards the Speed MP, Radical MP/Pro 360+, Gravity Tour/Pro, Extreme Tour and Prince Textreme Series. It might be a rough switch to a few of the racquets...the Clash has a certain feel you might miss.
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Dartagnan64
G.O.A.T.
Well that's always the trade off for power. If you move to a more control oriented frame, there is a good chance you'll be back here asking for racket recommendations for more powerful frames.
If you are playing full western and relying on spin rather than pace to keep opponents deep, then you may not want to move to a more control oriented frame. You may want to stick with spin oriented power tweeners like the Pure Aero, Head Extreme, Wilson Clash, Yonex Ezone, Prince Beast lines. If you are interested in flattening out your game somewhat then moving to more control oriented tweeners like the Wilson Blade, Babolat Pure Strike, Head Speed and Radical, Yonex VCORE and Prince Textreme Tour lines would be the next step.
You need to really decide how much power/spin you want to sacrifice for more control. There is no perfect frame in that regard. So do you want to accentuate what you do well or lessen it to add directional control?
Thanks a lot for the advice, I have had quite a bit of trouble with my full western grip in recent years often resulting in quite bad wrist pain. I've decided to switch to a semi-western grip as I hope it'll put less of a strain on my wrist and hopefully flatten out my game with more control as well so yeah, thanks for the recommendations. I am worried about the switch and how much of a hassle it will be for me but hopefully it doesn't take me too long to adjust.
Thanks, yeh it will definitely be tough but I personally think it's worth it for the next step, a full western just simply isn't sustainable for me.
Thanks, will keep that in mind, hopefully my local tennis shop have the gravitys.
ezekiel114
Semi-Pro
@calanques new model comes out end of march if you want to hold out until then. gravity pros take some time to groove with because of the weight/SW and lower power but it is a superb all around racquet.
Hmm yeh definitely become more interested in control rackets, I tend to overhit on aggressive shots which I guess is a reason a control racket could help me in this case.
Yeh for sure I can see that, only a 4g difference in terms of weight and would be willing to sacrifice some power, more an issue with spin if the gravity pro will be sufficient and have heard some very divided opinions on it.
I own a Clash 98. Very much went from a love affair/honeymoon to divorce in a fairly short amount of time. Really enjoyed drilling with it, where you get a lot of repeatable balls to dial in with. Then I played points with it and it was erratic and difficult for me to adjust to.
I don't know if there are really any racquets that enable a smooth transition from the Clash. It's a strange racquet, really innovative and not many sticks feel similar. I would just abandon it and demo a lot of racquets -- clean the palate a bit.
But...despite moving to a SW forehand, I'm assuming you are still a spin player. But you also want more control.
My suggestions:
Pure Strike - good power, 16x19 pattern, but smaller head at 98; however, it's stiff
Extreme Tour - again, decent power, 16x9 pattern, but smaller head and pretty soft
Dunlop SX 300 - a softer version of the Pure Aero, 100" spin racquet
Dunlop CX 400 Tour - control-oriented 100" with 16x19 pattern
ajspurs
Rookie
I would try and demo a Gravity to be honest. I hit with a semi-western and like to play with spin, demoed a range of rackets that you'd think would be better suited to me such as the Pure Aero, Clash 98, Pure Strike and EZONE 98 but the racket I liked the most was the Gravity Pro, just feels especially comfortable on contact, has a lovely sweet spot and the feels nice and sturdy with the added weight. I personally like the low power as even though I play with spin, it does enable me to comfortably and consistently take really hard swipes at the ball whilst fairly easily keeping it in the court. I also hit with a two-handed backhand and this felt noticeably nicer than with any other racket.
Gravity Pro and Tour are not technically spin racquets. But the thinner beams and teardrop shaped hoops enable aggressive modern swings. I hit plenty of topspin with with my Tour. And if you want, you can go down in weight to the MP, which has a 16x20 pattern.
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Hit 'em clean
Semi-Pro
The Gravity Pro is a great racquet and you can hit with plenty of spin... you just need to have proper fundamentals. If truly know how to hit with topspin you can hit huge heavy topspin shots with a gravity pro or tour for that matter. With a western or semi-western grip spin shouldn't be an issue since those grips were built for spin. The swing weight and static weight of the Pro, however, would be a big departure from the Clash 100.
I would recommend something like a Speed MP, Vcore 98, Pure Aero VS or Gravity Tour/MP. If you still want to try the Gravity Pro and are not concerned about the weight... the Speed Pro is another one to look at.
I would recommend something like a Speed MP, Vcore 98, Pure Aero VS or Gravity Tour/MP. If you still want to try the Gravity Pro and are not concerned about the weight... the Speed Pro is another one to look at.
Been given a blade 98 18x20 v7 to try out, I'll see how it goes tomorrow, not really sure how I'll handle with the weight of a gravity pro as I've never played with something that heavy but would still really like to try.
I've been playing lately with both the Clash Tour and the Gravity Tour and they are pretty different. Less power on the Gravity but if you make the effort to swing properly it's more than enough. Also much more control and, even though it's slightly stiffer than the Clash, if feels just as comfortable. The Clash has too much free power, which is great on mis hits or against heavy hitters but it's hard to control. Also launch angle seems to be too high on the Clash but since they are strung with different strings and tensions take this with a pinch of salt.
Hit 'em clean
Semi-Pro
One big advantage of weight/plow is you don't have to swing hard all the time like with a lighter frame. You lose a lot less of what you put into the swing with a heavier static weight and swing weight at contact which translates into easier controllable power/depth/spin IMO. You'll certainly sense that with the Blade on the 18x20 where you can let the racquet drive through the ball without the constantly feeling like you have to have a lot of racquet speed to control and counter the incoming shot.
My swing style generally needs a more HL racquet so 4pts HL doesn't feel whippy enough to me and messes my timing up. I prefer 6pts HL or more. If you feel the Blade SW is too much don't let that completely put you off the Gravity Pro as it is much more HL and might feel easier to swing (it does to me).
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