stringing pro staff 6.0 85

austintennis2005

Professional
hey everyone, i just got a new revo 4k and strung my first racquet (pro staff original 85)
it came out ok but i noticed on the stringing pattern it said the crosses start at 7t and go down, im pretty sure i did everything right yet my crosses started at the bottom and went to the top. does this matter?
 

Tennis Man

Hall of Fame
pictures, please ...

I almost had this problem when I strung my second frame (n6.1 tour). I just stopped on time when I realized that I almost tensioned an extra main :).

In your case it could be a wrong starting point. Did you start at the head or throat?
 

austintennis2005

Professional
i started at the right place (the throat) and tied off the short side, the last main ended at the bottom and that is where i started the crosses. i do have the correct number of mains and crosses (16 x 18)
 

LttlElvis

Professional
The general rule is that crosses should be started at the top and end at the throat. This puts less strain on the racquet. To do this you should use the 2 piece technique.

On your Pro Staff, if you do a one piece techique, you should consider the Around The World technique for the safety of the racquet since the mains end on the throat.

A lot of beginners, start with one piece stringing, thinking it is easier because you have only 2 knots. You will find out 2 piece is actually easier because you don't have to handle the long length of string so often. I find 2 piece to actually be quicker now.
 

Tennis Man

Hall of Fame
I just remembered, that's exactly what happened to me. I followed the pattern and thought it would start from the top but it clearly has Xs start at 7T (T= throat). So this is correct for one-piece:

Pro Staff 6.0 Original Midsize 85
• String Tension : 50-60 lbs.
• String Length : 34' (ss:9') or (18'M's and 16' X's)
• String Pattern : 16 x 18
• Start Main : at Throat. Mains skip 7H, 9H, 7T and 9T. Tie off M's at 6T.
• One Piece : Start X's at Bottom at 7T. Top X: 7H. Tie off X's at 5H.
• Two Piece : Start X's at Top at 7H. Bottom X: 7T. Tie off X's at 5H and 8T.
• Notes :
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
The general rule is that crosses should be started at the top and end at the throat. This puts less strain on the racquet. To do this you should use the 2 piece technique.

On your Pro Staff, if you do a one piece techique, you should consider the Around The World technique for the safety of the racquet since the mains end on the throat.

A lot of beginners, start with one piece stringing, thinking it is easier because you have only 2 knots. You will find out 2 piece is actually easier because you don't have to handle the long length of string so often. I find 2 piece to actually be quicker now.

I'm not so sure why so many people are recommending the two piece so much. I actually prefer a two piece in general, but I don't think this is necessarily the right recommendation for someone that is (relatively) new to stringing. A straight one piece pattern has less that can go wrong with it if you are just starting out, IMHO. I also don't think it is wise to recommend an ATW pattern to a new stringer, either. Especially over text on a message board. If i was just starting out, I wouldn't even know where to begin if i had to string the ATW. Instructions are very difficult to follow if you don't know your way around a machine and/or patterns (which is almost safe to assume).

The long length of string handling is simple: keep the tip in a place where it's easy to find (i bite my string end). You don't need to manage anything else. If i were stringing based purely on speed, i'd probably stick with the one piece, it has more potential to be faster.
Note: If you keep track of your string end by biting it, or curling it up using your pinky, etc, you cut ALL the time you waste by searching for it over and over again. This can cut ~5 minutes off a string job, assuming you take 10-20 seconds trying to find the end every time. The handling of the long side is only more of a hassle because you have to draw it through a hole, which might take what, like 2-5 seconds? I find the knot tying procedure a much more time consuming process, especially if you are tying different knots (lets say 3 double half hitches and a proper starting knot)

I should mention that I also prelace my mains, it's messy, but i can keep track of everything no prob.


Also, even though the one piece bottom to top is less "safe" (theretically, although i agree) for a racquet, wilson has no problem with it from a warranty standpoint and otherwise. It's better practice to string from top to bottom, but in this case i'd just let it go.

This isn't to say i'm lenient on "following rules," as I personally practice good technique, but you guys expect a lot from inexperienced stringers.
 
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LttlElvis

Professional
Point well taken, diredesire. One piece concept is easy for beginners and ATW should be used once you have more experience.
 

austintennis2005

Professional
good post, diredesire. very helpful. i had the fisher m pro 1 like marcos but never did give it a good chance as i would always go back to my pro staffs in crunch time.
thanks for your insights into stringing.
 

Tennis Man

Hall of Fame
you guys expect a lot from inexperienced stringers.

Yeah, don't expect much from us :). Thanks diredesire for stepping up to defend us and fro bringing up ATW technique. It's the next thing I will try after my first 2-piece job.

Actually, I spend more time now weaving crosses then looking for the string tips. The guys in the video do it just so fast, WOW. Otherwise, my target for a string job is about an hour. Why rush. It's a pleasurable exercise :).
 

diredesire

Adjunct Moderator
Yeah, don't expect much from us :). Thanks diredesire for stepping up to defend us and fro bringing up ATW technique. It's the next thing I will try after my first 2-piece job.

Actually, I spend more time now weaving crosses then looking for the string tips. The guys in the video do it just so fast, WOW. Otherwise, my target for a string job is about an hour. Why rush. It's a pleasurable exercise :).
Hopefully i didn't come across as abrasive or rude, I'm just seeing a lot of advanced stuff being pitched at people who obviously don't know enough to accomplish these sorts of tasks (no offense intended, we've all been there). My advice is to start slow and try to absorb everything you read.

As far as weaving, i'd look into stringing one ahead, and weave in a V shape. I'll be attempting to post videos sometime soon (really!) I've got exams coming up (as usual), but if anyone wants to see any of my RAW video files (compressed, but with no voice overs), i've got 2 knot tying videos I can post. I'm really hoping to get a voice over on top of it, to describe what i'm doing, but I just have so little time nowadays.
 

donut

Rookie
whenver i string mine 1 piece mains end on bottom and i just string crosses from the bottom i can ATW but wilson website says string from bottom so why not? if it breaks warranty gives a new one right? =)
 
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