Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Where are Nadal and Federer in the tournament?
Thank you Murray, for showing us who you really are!
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Where are Nadal and Federer in the tournament?
rosewallGOAT
Banned
The big 3 right now are Djokovic, Murray, and Nadal. There is indeed no big 4, in that Federer is not part of that group currently. Nadal is only included since his total dominance on one surface (clay) cant be overlooked, and since he has already won a hard court Masters this year as well, but his performances on non clay surfaces are still a question mark moving forward now.
In many ways it is a big 1 though as Djokovic overall has been a huge cut above the rest over the last 2.5 years overall, and currently is the one to beat on everything but clay (and is virtually a co favorite on clay too).
In many ways it is a big 1 though as Djokovic overall has been a huge cut above the rest over the last 2.5 years overall, and currently is the one to beat on everything but clay (and is virtually a co favorite on clay too).
Mainad
Bionic Poster
According to the OP, only the 'Big 3' are allowed to lose before the final of a Slam. Everyone else is a disgrace! :wink:
TCG
Semi-Pro
murray is the up there with simon in the class of pushers..The guy bores me to death with his pushing..All he does is runs side to side to retrieve the ball waiting for the opponent to make an UE and on top of it screams and uses filthy language..Even though verdasco is a choker I feel for the guy..He had to put 5 to 6 good shots per rally still couldn't get past the pusher...The crowd was on the side of Murray every single point...Poor guy gave up in the end..Murray is definitely not in the class of Fedalovic in my eyes...If he was not british all these fans of him would call him pusher day in day out...period.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Is that so different from what Nadal used to do? Granted, he could and can hit winners, but he's won a ton of matches by putting one more ball into play, waiting for the error
Came into the thread expecting it to be in praise of a totally gutsy Murray performance coming back when playing badly, almost certainly with a back problem, and facing his Wimbledon dream slipping away.
Which goes to show how utterly wrong the OP is. Oh and the stats show like 37 winners to 25 unforced errors. More winners than unforced errors is a strong indicator that a player had a good match.
Which goes to show how utterly wrong the OP is. Oh and the stats show like 37 winners to 25 unforced errors. More winners than unforced errors is a strong indicator that a player had a good match.
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Towser83
G.O.A.T.
yeah and let's see, he's been in 2 out of the last 3 slam finals and could be in 3 of the last 4... he's certainly big 3 right now, and I say that as someone who doesn't even like him that much (though I would say I've mellowed towards him lol) but no point lying about the way things are
Mainad
Bionic Poster
Here we go with this Simon comparison again! How many big titles has Simon won? How is he to be compared to Murray?
Lol...so, in your view, Murray should have just surrendered after losing the 2nd set and gone up to Verdasco and said, "Nando old chap, you are clearly the better player. I could probably still win this match if I resort to my notorious 'pushing' style but I won't do so because it would be a travesty and, above all, would upset terribly some of the posters on TTW who don't like me or my playing style at all. So well done old chap, and good look in the semi-final!"
grandmaster
Rookie
murray is unbearable but we should blame the surface, not him. you shouldn't be able to win like that on grass, it's ridiculous.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
I concur completely - sadly enough as I would like Fed to still be elite. But he hasn't been in 2013
Am I wrong in thinking that Andy is ranked number 2 and #3 didn't make it past the second round? Are you saying Murray is better than himself?
Fedex
Legend
Murray is so good that he can beat himself.
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Deleted member 3771
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After seeing the way Murray played versus Verdasco, he has to dramatically change his approach and show more offense. I'd much rather see someone who is more offensive win the title.
Terry Tibbs
Hall of Fame
If he makes the final against djokovic, he will play more aggressive as he has done the last 4-5 times he has played him. His passive game is effective against the lower ranked players which is why he plays this way against them. Every match up requires different tactics.
ductrung3993
Hall of Fame
lmao to of the people who think Murray is better than Nadal and Federer because he got further in this tournament.
If only Novak didnt play like crap in the USO'12 final, all the Muzzas fan would be exactly where they should be. :lol:
If only Novak didnt play like crap in the USO'12 final, all the Muzzas fan would be exactly where they should be. :lol:
Desertman
Hall of Fame
You know you people should really calm down a bit. History remembers the facts and the facts about Murray are quite impressive. He's a Grand Slam champion, an Olympic Champion and has now reached 5 Wimbledon semi finals in succession. He's contested the last three Grand Slam finals he has been in and has a chance to make that four.
Pusher or no pusher, passive or assertive on court....who cares. He seems to win and pull off victories when not playing well. If anything is the true mark of a player at the top the the game, then it has to be this.
Pusher or no pusher, passive or assertive on court....who cares. He seems to win and pull off victories when not playing well. If anything is the true mark of a player at the top the the game, then it has to be this.
Hood_Man
G.O.A.T.
Murray's style of play yesterday may not be the most exciting or aggressive, but he knows he can do it all day long. The fact that he can switch between full on Michael Bay "Balls to the Wall" aggression, and then become a plastic figure on a table football game suggests that these sorts of contests are probably a tactical decision.
Not that I'm suggesting he deliberately goes 2-0 down, but he knows that if he does find himself in that position he can carry on grinding his opponent down.
Being 2-0 down and saving break points isn't nearly as close to losing as being 2-0 and a break down.
Not that I'm suggesting he deliberately goes 2-0 down, but he knows that if he does find himself in that position he can carry on grinding his opponent down.
Being 2-0 down and saving break points isn't nearly as close to losing as being 2-0 and a break down.
Rozroz
G.O.A.T.
and everybody will forget he won W 1-2 ys from now..
6-1 6-3 6-0
Banned
Who, Murray? Just like all the England football fans forgot all about the 1966 World Cup? :???:
batz
G.O.A.T.
Bwaahahahahahahaahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
I've seen you post some pysh on here, but that takes the absolute biscuit.
Nobody has forgot the last Brit to win wimbledon, and that was > 70 years ago, but whatever you say mate.
Hood_Man
G.O.A.T.
I keep thinking of Barbossa's speech from Pirates of the Caribbean when I read the thread title... "The moonlight shows us for what we really are!"
http://youtu.be/1fzXmJyolfY
http://youtu.be/1fzXmJyolfY
ROTFLMAO!!!!! I think Batz is on the line, he wants his dignity back...:smile::wink:
batz
G.O.A.T.
rovex
Legend
ductrung3993
Hall of Fame
Djokovic Potro is amazing. Watch and learn (or dream), Murray.
batz
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Djokodal Fan
Hall of Fame
ductrung3993
Hall of Fame
Who's your guy playing today mate?
Do you have reading comprehension problem?
Last time I said:
The big 3 guy that I'm supporting is Djok.
I'm also on Potro and JJ's side.
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