The Ascent To The Throne Begins For Felix Auger Aliassime

A guy like Parie who's really dangerous when on can be a tough opponent.
His forehand is bad, but in a final he can go all out and produce a good amount of pace.
Still, he's not mentally strong, so Felix will always have a chance.
 

gogo

Hall of Fame
A guy like Parie who's really dangerous when on can be a tough opponent.
His forehand is bad, but in a final he can go all out and produce a good amount of pace.
Still, he's not mentally strong, so Felix will always have a chance.
Yup. And FAY-leeks can have hot and cold spells, but is devastating when he is on. Can't wait! This is very unpredictable.

Allez FAY-leeks!!
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
His name in french has an accent aigu over the "e". His name would be pronounced as FAY-leeks. With the end of the second syllable falling off, you hear FAY-lee.
Thankfully his game has more accent than the Agut with whom we are most familiar.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
A guy like Parie who's really dangerous when on can be a tough opponent.
His forehand is bad, but in a final he can go all out and produce a good amount of pace.
Still, he's not mentally strong, so Felix will always have a chance.
The incompaireability of Benoit centers on that big serve; if he bombs at 60% plus he gets ahead on points from weaker returns that he can either put away from both wings or go a stroke or two further and then use his nice dropper touch. Easy holds let him relax a bit on return games and he can break enough to avoid TB roulette.

When he’s off it’s from that service percentage dropping and then he throws paires of faults in from going for too much on that second ball.

There once was a Paire who had a big curl right in the middle of his forehead

When he was good he was very very good

When he was bad he was horrid.
 
ATP500 Rio final, ATP M1K Miami SF (from qualies), now another final. Big steps in 3 months. A title, even at a “small 250” would be UUUGGGEEE. Before Zedraffe won his first title it had been more than 8 years (right, @vive le beau jeu ! ?) since a teen had won at ATP level (Cilic at New Haven in ‘08).
Do you think he has a chance for the ATP Newcomer of the Year? :laughing:

@vernonbc, @gogo did a great job explaining Félix's first name pronunciation in French, but just so you know, you can hear Félix himself pronounce his own name on his page on the ATP website: https://www.atptour.com/en/players/felix-auger-aliassime/ag37/overview

Just click on the speaker icon right below his last name. The ATP did this with a lot of players whose names do not originate from an English speaking area. There's just one of the players (can't recall who) who must have missed the point because he said his name with an English accent, ie as a native English speaker would say it if they had no idea. :unsure:
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Do you think he has a chance for the ATP Newcomer of the Year? :laughing:

@vernonbc, @gogo did a great job explaining Félix's first name pronunciation in French, but just so you know, you can hear Félix himself pronounce his own name on his page on the ATP website: https://www.atptour.com/en/players/felix-auger-aliassime/ag37/overview

Just click on the speaker icon right below his last name. The ATP did this with a lot of players whose names do not originate from an English speaking area. There's just one of the players (can't recall who) who must have missed the point because he said his name with an English accent, ie as a native English speaker would say it if they had no idea. :unsure:
The award rules state it is for the calendar year in which the nominee first entered the top 100. Félix was #109 at YE 2018 and if he was never higher than #100, he is eligible.

Casper Ruud would also qualify, having cracked top 100 in March.

The award will probably be going to which of these two finishes the year with the higher ranking.
 

Sparlingo

Professional
Here's Felix's presser in French with english subtitles. He talks about his rivalry with Shapo and tomorrow's match among other things:


And his english comments

 

gogo

Hall of Fame
So disappointed that Felix's adductor injury has gotten worse and he may have to withdraw from the French Open. You could see that he wasn't going after some shots in his match against Paire and he didn't have the same aggression, particularly in the final set.

Steph Myles has a good discussion of the match and a link to Felix's presser on her Tennis Life site.

https://tennis.life/2019/05/26/adductor-puts-question-mark-on-felixs-french-open-video/

Félix Auger-Aliassime didn’t win the battle Saturday in the Lyon final.
And he may have lost the war as well.
The 18-year-old pulled his left adductor in his semifinal win over No. 1 seed Nikoloz Basilashvili Friday.
And although he didn’t think it was that serious at the time, and he felt okay in the first set of his final Saturday against France’s Benoit Paire. It got worse as the match went on.
Paire won the match 6-4, 6-3 with some impeccable tennis – at the level he had played the entire week, if not better. And he could tell Auger-Aliassime was at less than 100 per cent.
But the big prize lies ahead, as the French Open begins Sunday.
Auger-Aliassime doesn’t play until Tuesday. But that’s not much time to resolve the situation. He said he was going to have some tests done, and not make the recision immediately.
 

Sparlingo

Professional
And.....he has withdrawn from RG. It's official. Wise but sad choice.
I hope it isn't too serious, get well soon Felix! He was starting to make a real splash in France which is sort of adopting him as one of their own. Even in yesterday's final against a Frenchman he seemed to be getting lots of crowd support. Canada has lots to cheer though, go Shapo and go Bibi and go Rafters (in the finals) and go MacKenzie Hughes (final PGA group today) and go Brooks Henderson (final LPGA group today). Allez!
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
NEVER play with a groin injury. It's a huge mistake to do so. I realize Felix was in a no-win situation, though. Play the final and try to win, and aggravate the injury, or rest and let the final go. The latter was obviously not a real option. This is truly unfortunate if he does have a groin injury as they take weeks to settle down and re-injure very quickly. I should know I'm going through one now. So sorry to hear he's had to withdraw, but these are nasty buggers, and rest is the only thing he can do now. The good part is, he's young, healthy and very fit. Hopefully, he'll heal very soon.
 

raph6

Semi-Pro
I'm not surprised as Felix had many injuries in the past. This year he missed the Australian Open because of a knee injury for example. I think we will have to get used to it, as Nadal fans do. He will probably be very successfull but also very fragile.
 

Max G.

Legend
That’s been for me the biggest worry about Félix... he seems to get injured so often! This constant stream of injuries could easily keep him from reaching his potential.
 
Sounds like a minor injury but I think he made the right decision since he probabaly wasn’t going to be moving up the rankings significantly unless he did very well and with an injury that ain’t happening.
 
That’s been for me the biggest worry about Félix... he seems to get injured so often! This constant stream of injuries could easily keep him from reaching his potential.
Which constant stream of injuries? Let's see...

2016 Guadeloupe / 2018 US Open: tachycardia. Had a minor surgery to fix it, said himself it was no longer an issue.
2017 Blois: wrist injury sustained during the Lyon final days before. Fixed backhand technique, has not been an issue in two years.
2017 Dubai (training): knee injury, I don't know the details, but apparently it was not overuse, just a bad move he did or something like that. No issue a year and a half later.
2018 Anvers qualifying: blister on his foot after a crazy schedule traveling across half the earth or so.
2019: adductor injury, should be fine in 7 to 10 days.

I may have seen him with taping on the knees at one point not long ago, but that didn't last long and he hasn't missed a match. It's not so bad.
 

EloQuent

G.O.A.T.
Which constant stream of injuries? Let's see...

2016 Guadeloupe / 2018 US Open: tachycardia. Had a minor surgery to fix it, said himself it was no longer an issue.
2017 Blois: wrist injury sustained during the Lyon final days before. Fixed backhand technique, has not been an issue in two years.
2017 Dubai (training): knee injury, I don't know the details, but apparently it was not overuse, just a bad move he did or something like that. No issue a year and a half later.
2018 Anvers qualifying: blister on his foot after a crazy schedule traveling across half the earth or so.
2019: adductor injury, should be fine in 7 to 10 days.

I may have seen him with taping on the knees at one point not long ago, but that didn't last long and he hasn't missed a match. It's not so bad.
That's quite a list for a guy who is only 18. And it's impacted his involvement in slams. I fear a Delpo-like trajectory or worse.
 
That's quite a list for a guy who is only 18. And it's impacted his involvement in slams. I fear a Delpo-like trajectory or worse.
However if the source of the issue has been identified and addressed properly, like with the tachycardia and wrist, then I wouldn't consider it an indicator for the future. Otherwise I would agree with you, but I fail to see how either of these two predict anything for the future, nor a rare blister. That leaves the knee and the adductor, but the latter is a minor injury, after all. It's the timing that's unfortunate.
 

EloQuent

G.O.A.T.
However if the source of the issue has been identified and addressed properly, like with the tachycardia and wrist, then I wouldn't consider it an indicator for the future. Otherwise I would agree with you, but I fail to see how either of these two predict anything for the future, nor a rare blister. That leaves the knee and the adductor, but the latter is a minor injury, after all. It's the timing that's unfortunate.
I'm mostly worried about the timing since body management is so crucial for a tennis pro. For starters, he should not be playing the week before slam.
 
I'm mostly worried about the timing since body management is so crucial for a tennis pro. For starters, he should not be playing the week before slam.
I will agree with you eventually, but he hasn't been able to string two wins in a row since Miami and he has only three months of full ATP experience. He also needed rhythm going into a slam and a smaller tournament like Lyon provided him with a great opportunity to go further, which he did. I feel the victory against Basilashvili was a confidence booster for Félix. He hadn't managed to beat Coric twice, but he did against Basilashvili in a very close match. I thought his Lyon performance was setting himself up as well as possible going into RG.

I'm sure you are going to tell me that it's no use being consistent and confident if you are injured, which is obviously true. ;) I could also say that it's no use preserving your body just in case at the cost of gaining valuable experience, either. This wasn't foreseeable. If he is still playing ATP 250 tournaments right before slams in a few years, when he regularly makes deeper runs, then no worries, I'll completely agree with you.
 

Max G.

Legend
I'm mostly worried about the timing since body management is so crucial for a tennis pro. For starters, he should not be playing the week before slam.
Yeah, I disagree with this. In general, if a player isn't in the top 10, they probably can't count on getting to the final of a 250 - and so playing the week before is fine, if they have a good run it's more likely to give them some confidence going in to the slam rather than tiring them out. Playing the week before a slam becomes a consistently bad idea when the player is routinely making the later rounds of 250s and already playing a lot of matches going in to the Slam.

The injury was certainly frustrating, though.
 

vernonbc

Legend
This is truly unfortunate if he does have a groin injury as they take weeks to settle down and re-injure very quickly. I should know I'm going through one now. So sorry to hear he's had to withdraw, but these are nasty buggers, and rest is the only thing he can do now. The good part is, he's young, healthy and very fit. Hopefully, he'll heal very soon.
Oh, are you a tennis pro? Your situation is the same as Felix's? Do you have trainers and physiotherapists and specialized doctors looking after you? Good for you. Along with all your coaching expertise you have medical knowledge too. Quite a resume there.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I'm mostly worried about the timing since body management is so crucial for a tennis pro. For starters, he should not be playing the week before slam.
Thiem played Lyon last year, winning the title. Made RG final.

Wawrinka plays Geneva every year since its advent as a tuneup the week before. Made QF in ‘15, the year of his title; won it in ‘17 and made RG final.

Félix planned the appearance in Lyon for three reasons:

1. The place holds a magical appeal to him, having won Challenger titles there the last two years.

2. Félix is a contract Babolat player and I’m sure there’s some enticement from corporate to play their local tournament. Thiem went there last year; Paire played and won there.

3. At signup time, grabbing maximum points was motive to play. Breaking through for a first title was also a spark. He and his camp may have chipped Lyon off the list if he had had greater success from M-C to Rome but he went 3-4 so he needed match play instead of avoiding it.
 

Max G.

Legend
A groin injury is rarely minor. As I've found out.
I had a minor groin injury recently! Adductor strains come in all shapes and sizes. For me I just needed one week off to rest and was fine. I've also had a slightly more severe one that took about 3 weeks off to heal.

They're muscles like any other. You can get everything from a minor strain that just needs a few days rest, to a full tear that takes 6 months of rehab. Presumably since Felix was able to play on it (but had some movement impairment) it's closer to the former than the latter.
 

EloQuent

G.O.A.T.
Multiple people responding with justification for playing just before slam, and examples of other players who did so successfully. But those other players don't matter. Every player has to figure out what works best for him, and it seems to me that it was a mistake in this situation.

I didn't mean to derail the thread here so I'll just finish by wishing him good health and luck in grass season.
 
I've never met Félix so I don't know how he is in real life, but it's been said for a while that the other players really appreciated him. It must be true, because did anyone catch Paire's speech yesterday, on top of the very warm handshake at the net after the match? He seems to really, really like Félix!


The award rules state it is for the calendar year in which the nominee first entered the top 100. Félix was #109 at YE 2018 and if he was never higher than #100, he is eligible.

Casper Ruud would also qualify, having cracked top 100 in March.

The award will probably be going to which of these two finishes the year with the higher ranking.
Forgot to reply earlier, but I was somewhat kidding. Félix has about 500 points over Ruud at the moment, so I'd be really surprised if Ruud or any other player caught up (but good for them if they manage to!).

I had a minor groin injury recently! Adductor strains come in all shapes and sizes. For me I just needed one week off to rest and was fine. I've also had a slightly more severe one that took about 3 weeks off to heal.

They're muscles like any other. You can get everything from a minor strain that just needs a few days rest, to a full tear that takes 6 months of rehab. Presumably since Felix was able to play on it (but had some movement impairment) it's closer to the former than the latter.
I guess that's why Sparlingo posted Tebbutt's tweet - it's a grade 1 tear. He's going to remain in Paris for treatment for the time being. Frankly, I wonder how people managed before physiotherapy existed. It's miraculous. Once I've hurt myself and the pain wouldn't go away on its own even after a few days. I couldn't get a physio appointment right away, so I retrieved old exercises I'd been given for what felt like a similar injury... Two days later, the pain was completely gone in everyday activities. Five days later, the physio couldn't even tell there was something wrong, and just about a week later, I was able to exercise again without pain. And I'm just a mere mortal, not an athlete surrounded by physiotherapists and fitness trainers every day!

Multiple people responding with justification for playing just before slam, and examples of other players who did so successfully. But those other players don't matter. Every player has to figure out what works best for him, and it seems to me that it was a mistake in this situation.

I didn't mean to derail the thread here so I'll just finish by wishing him good health and luck in grass season.
Even though we don't agree, at least for this season, it never occurred to me that your point wasn't worthy of a discussion. You didn't derail anything. :)
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I've never met Félix so I don't know how he is in real life, but it's been said for a while that the other players really appreciated him. It must be true, because did anyone catch Paire's speech yesterday, on top of the very warm handshake at the net after the match? He seems to really, really like Félix!



Forgot to reply earlier, but I was somewhat kidding. Félix has about 500 points over Ruud at the moment, so I'd be really surprised if Ruud or any other player caught up (but good for them if they manage to!).


I guess that's why Sparlingo posted Tebbutt's tweet - it's a grade 1 tear. He's going to remain in Paris for treatment for the time being. Frankly, I wonder how people managed before physiotherapy existed. It's miraculous. Once I've hurt myself and the pain wouldn't go away on its own even after a few days. I couldn't get a physio appointment right away, so I retrieved old exercises I'd been given for what felt like a similar injury... Two days later, the pain was completely gone in everyday activities. Five days later, the physio couldn't even tell there was something wrong, and just about a week later, I was able to exercise again without pain. And I'm just a mere mortal, not an athlete surrounded by physiotherapists and fitness trainers every day!


Even though we don't agree, at least for this season, it never occurred to me that your point wasn't worthy of a discussion. You didn't derail anything. :)
@Rafa.the.Magnificent needs to hear Paire’s speech to help overcome her particular paireanoia called pogonophobia.
 

vernonbc

Legend
I've never met Félix so I don't know how he is in real life, but it's been said for a while that the other players really appreciated him. It must be true, because did anyone catch Paire's speech yesterday, on top of the very warm handshake at the net after the match? He seems to really, really like Félix!
From what I've read and seen on videos (and it's a lot) from when he was 14, he's always gotten very complimentary praise. In fact it goes back even further as an elementary school teacher who's known him since he was six always raves about how lovely his family is and how Felix has been an exemplary student and a great kid. He's confident and has natural leadership qualities but is always polite and humble and smiling and respectful. I think the main reason he is so widely admired amongst his cohorts is the respect Felix has for the game and the tour and the other players, plus the fact that he's still so young (relatively) has them treating him in a little brother way.
 
From what I've read and seen on videos (and it's a lot) from when he was 14, he's always gotten very complimentary praise. In fact it goes back even further as an elementary school teacher who's known him since he was six always raves about how lovely his family is and how Felix has been an exemplary student and a great kid. He's confident and has natural leadership qualities but is always polite and humble and smiling and respectful. I think the main reason he is so widely admired amongst his cohorts is the respect Felix has for the game and the tour and the other players, plus the fact that he's still so young (relatively) has them treating him in a little brother way.
I can also seldom remember any criticism. :love: Does he not have any shortcomings? :laughing:

In fact, I was only saying that I didn't know how he came across in real life because while you can have a generally positive impression of someone, it's never the same as knowing them through direct interactions. Not that I doubt Félix: his demeanor and words have always been very consistent. :) He doesn't look like he needs the spotlight to exist, either. (y)
 

vernonbc

Legend
Woot!!!! https://tennis.life/2019/06/02/auger-aliassime-back-on-court-monday/?fbclid=IwAR3GlmM2xjYDZhQIYFOwEIAtRkbKHA6Gvmr2m7b83p4EA1QmeMzKW0VcnJY#.XPRzmkt_2Tk.facebook

Auger-Aliassime back on court Monday

By Stephanie Myles June 2, 2019

PARIS – Félix Auger-Aliassime has a little time on his hands, and is``` still in Paris rehabbing his adductor injury. So on Sunday, he hit Court 12 at Roland Garros Sunday.

The Canadian teen went not to practice, but to cheer on one of his fellow teens from Tennis Canada’s national centre in Montreal. Taha Baadi, 17, was making his Grand Slam level debut in the first round of the French Open juniors.

And with Auger-Aliassime fist-pumping him every step of the way, Baadi came back from a set and a break down to run away to victory in the third. It’s in incredible to think that Baadi and Auger-Aliassime are less than a year apart. Baadi will turn 18 on July 19. Three weeks later, Auger-Aliassime will turn 19.


But Baadi is probably on an average type of junior track, maybe a little on the late-blooming side. His pal is rocking the ATP TOUR. Despite having to pull out of his first Roland Garros with the adductor injury, Auger-Aliassime will even move up a spot to a career-high No. 21 next Monday.

The only thing that would prevent that is if Benoit Paire, the man who defeated him in the Lyon final a week ago, manages to come back and beat Kei Nishikori in their fourth-round singles match. That match was suspended for darkness Sunday night, with Nishikori up two sets to one.

Because he didn’t have a match to play, Auger-Aliassime didn’t have to worry about being out in the heat for a few hours and sapping his energy. So he was all-in on Baadi’s match. No fiddling with the phone. No distractions. Just straight-on focus. How awesome is this kid, really.

It won’t be that long before it might be too much of a hassle for Auger-Aliassime to just sit in the stands at a Slam like that. But for now, he only was asked for a few autographs and was able to enjoy a little normalcy with trainer Nicolas Perrotte and some other Tennis Canada people.

He told Tennis.Life that his rehab was coming along on schedule. And that he was planning to get back on court Monday for the first time. So far, Auger-Aliassime is still entered in the Stuttgart tournament on grass, which begins in a week.
 
I don’t really see any reason why he won’t do well on grass considering how balanced he is when moving . The volleys have to improve obviously to be a weapon.
 

Joseph_K

Professional
Hopefully Felix will be able to return to competition in time enough to gain some grass court experience before Wimbledon. There was a lot of rain at the Surbiton Challenger here in London today, so not ideal conditions for someone carrying an injury (not that Felix is playing Challengers anymore).
 

Joseph_K

Professional
It looks as if Felix has fully recovered from the injury that kept him from taking part in the French Open. The Canadian has entered both the singles and the doubles events at next week's grass court tournament in Stuttgart. In the former event Felix is the no. 7 seed and will play the Latvian Ernests Gulbis in the first round. In the doubles event the Canadian has teamed up with Hubert Hurkacz. In a first-round encounter between two unseeded pairs, they will play the Englishmen Luke Bambridge and Jonny O'Mara.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
It looks as if Felix has fully recovered from the injury that kept him from taking part in the French Open. The Canadian has entered both the singles and the doubles events at next week's grass court tournament in Stuttgart. In the former event Felix is the no. 7 seed and will play the Latvian Ernests Gulbis in the first round. In the doubles event the Canadian has teamed up with Hubert Hurkacz. In a first-round encounter between two unseeded pairs, they will play the Englishmen Luke Bambridge and Jonny O'Mara.
In the singles I win and lose.:cry::)
 

Joseph_K

Professional
Felix has withdrawn from the men's doubles event in Stuttgart where he was due to partner Hubert Hurkacz. Given the Canadian's recent injury, the withdrawal is probably precautionary in nature. Felix's first-round singles match in Stuttgart, against Ernests Gulbis, has been scheduled for Tuesday afternoon, but the weather forecast for Stuttgart, as for 's-Hertogenbosch and Nottingham, is very poor until later this week.
 

Joseph_K

Professional
A very solid first grass court match of the year for Felix earlier today against Ernests Gulbis in Stuttgart where the Canadian won 7-5, 6-3. There was no sign of his recent injury as a confident-looking Felix served and moved very well and often had his much more experienced opponet on the backfoot. Felix will next face either home hope Peter Gojowczyk or the veteran Frenchman Gilles Simon for a place in the quarter-finals.
 
A very solid first grass court match of the year for Felix earlier today against Ernests Gulbis in Stuttgart where the Canadian won 7-5, 6-3. There was no sign of his recent injury as a confident-looking Felix served and moved very well and often had his much more experienced opponet on the backfoot. Felix will next face either home hope Peter Gojowczyk or the veteran Frenchman Gilles Simon for a place in the quarter-finals.
Yep, fairly clean match for Felix. It was as good a start to his grass court season as he could ask for.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Yep, fairly clean match for Felix. It was as good a start to his grass court season as he could ask for.
He’ll play Simon 2R, another 30-something struggling to find form this year. Simon’s match vs Gojo was a bit strange, losing the first set despite serving 5 of his 10 total aces before rallying more and bumping his 1st serve points won from a poor 57% to the low 80’s in the sweep of the last two sets. A solid returning Félix should take this on Thursday. If so, the QFs opponent will be either Zedraffe or Dreddy Brown.
 

Joseph_K

Professional
All of the four remaining matches in the last 16 of the singles event in Stuttgart have been scheduled for the Centre Court on Thursday. Felix's match is the last one on and is due start around 3pm local time, but that will really depend on the length of the preceding matches and the weather.
 

DRII

G.O.A.T.
A very solid first grass court match of the year for Felix earlier today against Ernests Gulbis in Stuttgart where the Canadian won 7-5, 6-3. There was no sign of his recent injury as a confident-looking Felix served and moved very well and often had his much more experienced opponet on the backfoot. Felix will next face either home hope Peter Gojowczyk or the veteran Frenchman Gilles Simon for a place in the quarter-finals.
saw the highlights...

both players were playing quite well!

Gulbis' FH looks much better and his BH looks as good as it usually does, which is great.

FAA beat him by being the better athlete and serving well.
 
Someone brought up that Felix had never won a grasscourt match before (then again he had never lost one either). He's now into the QF's of his first grasscourt tournament with solid wins over tour veterans Ernests Gulbis and Gilles Simon. The oddball qualifier Dustin Brown is up next.
 
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