Things Novak does better than anyone else...

[Chanwan]

I feel there's not enough appreciation of the undisputed GOAT, the Earth mightiest warrior on these boards, so here's an appreciation thread.
Add only what you feel he does better than any other tennis player or human, past or present

• Return of serve. Granted, Agassi, Connors and peak Murray are up there, but I'd give Novak the edge
• Mental strength on a tennis court. Rafa & Pete amongst others come close, but have to give the nod to Novak here by now
• Ability to hit a doublehanded backhand while sliding. No ones comes close.
• Stand up for his beliefs. Not even Gandhi comes close
• Bravest man who ever lived
• Selfhealing
• Give long hugs (thanks to Pepe Imaz)
• Telepathy & telekinesis*
• Purify water through thoughts and emotions**
• Considered but omitted: Is Novak actually better than Nadal on clay?

I'm sure I've forgotten areas, where he outperforms any other man or woman, past or present. Please chip in below. Thanks!

* “You have this thing called telepathy, right?” he says, “Or this thing called telekinesis, or instinct, intuition. I feel like [these] are the gifts from this higher order, the source, the god, whatever, that allows us to understand the higher power and higher order in ourselves. We have the power to programme our subconscious. To me, [the word transcendence] is about transcending from a kind of a lower physical vibration to a higher vibration of understanding who we really are.”

**"I've seen people and I know some people that, through that energetical transformation, through the power of prayer, through the power of gratitude, they manage to turn the most toxic food or most polluted water, into the most healing water.
"Because water reacts and scientists have proven that, that molecules in the water react to our emotions, to what is being said.
"I truly believe that we should continuously, every single day that when we sit, we sit without cameras, without phones … or even worse having nervous discussions and conflictual (sic) discussions at the table with your close ones during your meal."

 

[Biotic]

- cause extreme pain

 

[accidental]

Play tennis

 

[helterskelter]

I feel there's not enough appreciation of the undisputed GOAT, the Earth mightiest warrior on these boards, so here's an appreciation thread.
Add only what you feel he does better than any other tennis player or human, past or present

• Return of serve. Granted, Agassi, Connors and peak Murray are up there, but I'd give Novak the edge
• Mental strength on a tennis court. Rafa & Pete amongst others come close, but have to give the nod to Novak here by now
• Ability to hit a doublehanded backhand while sliding. No ones comes close.
• Stand up for his beliefs. Not even Gandhi comes close
• Selfhealing
• Give long hugs (thanks to Pepe Imaz)
• Telepathy & telekinesis*
• Purify water through thoughts and emotions**
• Considered but omitted: Is Novak actually better than Nadal on clay?

I'm sure I've forgotten areas, where he outperforms any other man or woman, past or present. Please chip in below. Thanks!

* “You have this thing called telepathy, right?” he says, “Or this thing called telekinesis, or instinct, intuition. I feel like [these] are the gifts from this higher order, the source, the god, whatever, that allows us to understand the higher power and higher order in ourselves. We have the power to programme our subconscious. To me, [the word transcendence] is about transcending from a kind of a lower physical vibration to a higher vibration of understanding who we really are.”

**"I've seen people and I know some people that, through that energetical transformation, through the power of prayer, through the power of gratitude, they manage to turn the most toxic food or most polluted water, into the most healing water.
"Because water reacts and scientists have proven that, that molecules in the water react to our emotions, to what is being said.
"I truly believe that we should continuously, every single day that when we sit, we sit without cameras, without phones … or even worse having nervous discussions and conflictual (sic) discussions at the table with your close ones during your meal."

Good list. But with the belief thing, I think we should note that not only is he far better than Gandhi at standing up for his beliefs, but also that his beliefs are far more worthy ones than Gandhi's. I mean, all Gandhi did was stand up to empire and colonialism. But these are just examples of state coercion and restrictions on freedom. Sure, they are important problems in their way, but tackling them just means putting a band aid on the problem - states will just coerce people in new ways, as they have indeed done since 1947. Novak tackled the problem right at the source when he stood up for the foundational principle, Freedom of Choice. Moreover, Novak took the Gandhian technique of exposing injustice by voluntarily submitting to it to a whole new level. Like Gandhi, he allowed himself to be imprisoned unjustly, but he added to it the new tactic of allowing oneself to be deported halfway across the world so as to expose their immorality.

 

[Chanwan]

Good list. But with the belief thing, I think we should note that not only is he far better than Gandhi at standing up for his beliefs, but also that his beliefs are far more worthy ones than Gandhi's. I mean, all Gandhi did was stand up to empire and colonialism. But these are just examples of state coercion and restrictions on freedom. Sure, they are important problems in their way, but tackling them just means putting a band aid on the problem - states will just coerce people in new ways, as they have indeed done since 1947. Novak tackled the problem right at the source when he stood up for the foundational principle, Freedom of Choice. Moreover, Novak took the Gandhian technique of exposing injustice by voluntarily submitting to it to a whole new level. Like Gandhi, he allowed himself to be imprisoned unjustly, but he added to it the new tactic of allowing oneself to be deported halfway across the world so as to expose their immorality.

Well spoken!

 

[Razer]

I feel there's not enough appreciation of the undisputed GOAT, the Earth mightiest warrior on these boards, so here's an appreciation thread.
Add only what you feel he does better than any other tennis player or human, past or present

• Return of serve. Granted, Agassi, Connors and peak Murray are up there, but I'd give Novak the edge
• Mental strength on a tennis court. Rafa & Pete amongst others come close, but have to give the nod to Novak here by now
• Ability to hit a doublehanded backhand while sliding. No ones comes close.
• Stand up for his beliefs. Not even Gandhi comes close
• Selfhealing
• Give long hugs (thanks to Pepe Imaz)
• Telepathy & telekinesis*
• Purify water through thoughts and emotions**
• Considered but omitted: Is Novak actually better than Nadal on clay?

I'm sure I've forgotten areas, where he outperforms any other man or woman, past or present. Please chip in below. Thanks!

* “You have this thing called telepathy, right?” he says, “Or this thing called telekinesis, or instinct, intuition. I feel like [these] are the gifts from this higher order, the source, the god, whatever, that allows us to understand the higher power and higher order in ourselves. We have the power to programme our subconscious. To me, [the word transcendence] is about transcending from a kind of a lower physical vibration to a higher vibration of understanding who we really are.”

**"I've seen people and I know some people that, through that energetical transformation, through the power of prayer, through the power of gratitude, they manage to turn the most toxic food or most polluted water, into the most healing water.
"Because water reacts and scientists have proven that, that molecules in the water react to our emotions, to what is being said.
"I truly believe that we should continuously, every single day that when we sit, we sit without cameras, without phones … or even worse having nervous discussions and conflictual (sic) discussions at the table with your close ones during your meal."

You forgot STAMINA

He is the GOAT of Stamina, nobody is as good as him.

 

[Sentinel]

Stand up for his beliefs. Not even Gandhi comes close

This got a smile in my face

Good list. But with the belief thing, I think we should note that not only is he far better than Gandhi at standing up for his beliefs, but also that his beliefs are far more worthy ones than Gandhi's. I mean, all Gandhi did was stand up to empire and colonialism. But these are just examples of state coercion and restrictions on freedom. Sure, they are important problems in their way, but tackling them just means putting a band aid on the problem - states will just coerce people in new ways, as they have indeed done since 1947. Novak tackled the problem right at the source when he stood up for the foundational principle, Freedom of Choice. Moreover, Novak took the Gandhian technique of exposing injustice by voluntarily submitting to it to a whole new level. Like Gandhi, he allowed himself to be imprisoned unjustly, but he added to it the new tactic of allowing oneself to be deported halfway across the world so as to expose their immorality.

I've just woken up from a deep nap and am wondering if this is in jest or serious. If jest, then well done.

 

[Chanwan]

You forgot STAMINA

He is the GOAT of Stamina, nobody is as good as him.

In tennis, sure. But this is about all of humanity. And for stamina, no one beats Bjørn Dæhlie

From wiki
During his career, Dæhlie measured a VO2 max of 96 ml/kg/min. Dæhlie's result was achieved out of season, and physiologist Erlend Hem who was responsible for the testing stated that he would not discount the possibility of the skier passing 100 ml/kg/min at his absolute peak.[

 

[Sentinel]

Good list. But with the belief thing, I think we should note that not only is he far better than Gandhi at standing up for his beliefs, but also that his beliefs are far more worthy ones than Gandhi's. I mean, all Gandhi did was stand up to empire and colonialism. But these are just examples of state coercion and restrictions on freedom. Sure, they are important problems in their way, but tackling them just means putting a band aid on the problem - states will just coerce people in new ways, as they have indeed done since 1947. Novak tackled the problem right at the source when he stood up for the foundational principle, Freedom of Choice. Moreover, Novak took the Gandhian technique of exposing injustice by voluntarily submitting to it to a whole new level. Like Gandhi, he allowed himself to be imprisoned unjustly, but he added to it the new tactic of allowing oneself to be deported halfway across the world so as to expose their immorality.

Gandhiji probably gave in to a yellow fever vaccine on his way to Africa.

No way our Novak would have.

 

[Sentinel]

In tennis, sure. But this is about all of humanity. And for stamina, no one beats Bjørn Dæhlie

From wiki
During his career, Dæhlie measured a VO2 max of 96 ml/kg/min. Dæhlie's result was achieved out of season, and physiologist Erlend Hem who was responsible for the testing stated that he would not discount the possibility of the skier passing 100 ml/kg/min at his absolute peak.[

Actually, in the 80 and 90s i read that many African runners also had vo2 maxs in the 90s. I remember reading Said Aouita had something in the mid 90s.
I haven't heard of this chap but stamina wise you have to consider the Ethiopian and Kenyan runners who are running close to 2 hours for the marathon.

 

[Chanwan]

Actually, in the 80 and 90s i read that many African runners also had vo2 maxs in the 90s. I remember reading Said Aouita had something in the mid 90s.
I haven't heard of this chap but stamina wise you have to consider the Ethiopian and Kenyan runners who are running close to 2 hours for the marathon.

Fair. Generally speaking though, cross country skiiers, to the best of my knowledge, tend to have even higher VO2 max than any other athletes, including long distance runners

 

[helterskelter]

Gandhiji probably gave in to a yellow fever vaccine on his way to Africa.

No way our Novak would have.

Deplorable! But that's what happens when you focus too much on the epiphenomena of a problem and don't get to the underlying principle. Gandhi's awakening occurred when he was the victim of discrimination on a train in South Africa, and so he thought that the problem was discrimination, and later extended that to colonialism more broadly. He failed to notice that both are byproducts of the foundational problem that states violate Freedom of Choice. Novak was much wiser. Hard to tell whether it's because states violated his own right to Freedom of Choice or because he was just a more acute thinker. Probably a mixture of both.

 

[Sentinel]

Fair. Generally speaking though, cross country skiiers, to the best of my knowledge, tend to have even higher VO2 max than any other athletes, including long distance runners

Do you know why? I have no idea about skiing, coming from a warm country.

 

[Chanwan]

Do you know why? I have no idea about skiing, coming from a warm country.

Not quite sure no, but take a look at the list here

VO2 max World Records

And an attempt of an explanation here

The Ultimate Endurance Sport: Cross-Country Skiing - Pledge Sports

In this hugely popular series, we analyse different sports and their athletes to determine which is the Ultimate Endurance Sport.

www.pledgesports.org

 

[Chanwan]

Deplorable! But that's what happens when you focus too much on the epiphenomena of a problem and don't get to the underlying principle. Gandhi's awakening occurred when he was the victim of discrimination on a train in South Africa, and so he thought that the problem was discrimination, and later extended that to colonialism more broadly. He failed to notice that both are byproducts of the foundational problem that states violate Freedom of Choice. Novak was much wiser. Hard to tell whether it's because states violated his own right to Freedom of Choice or because he was just a more acute thinker. Probably a mixture of both.

Love this part!!

Hard to tell whether it's because states violated his own right to Freedom of Choice or because he was just a more acute thinker. Probably a mixture of both.

 

[Razer]

Gandhi is a bit of a controversial figure in India right now among the current youth. We see him as a stooge of the british who begged for freedom (via non violent marches/protests and what not) but eventually the freedom was obtained because of the world war, not because of Gandhi. In the real world if somebody slaps you on 1 cheek and you extend your other cheek then people will think you are a glutton for punishment / a punching bag, they will have a free hand at you. Freedom is obtained by violence, not by non violence. Like the American war of independence, you have to get things done or else nobody will give you anything out of pity. Gandhi was probably an agent of the british who was designed to keep the public soft and controllable at that time. This is the view on Gandhi nowadays back home and I don't blame anyone, this kinda sounds logically right as well.

 

[LaVie en Rose]

Besides being brilliant at tennis, collecting his haters tears.
Look at you guys , can't stop thinking about him opening threads about him every 2 seconds , despite finding him boring

 

[The Fedfather]

I was reading the OP so seriously at first lol.

Not sure if better than everyone, but I think Djokovic is good at taking risks. It's like in a moment he can let go of anxiety that comes with risk-taking and just do it (Nike missed out). That's not an easy thing to do and many people don't have the ability.

He's also probably the most flexible guy ever in top tennis?

 

[Born_to_slice]

 

[FeroBango]

The way Novak absorbed, redirected, and made a joke out of Carlos' speed on the ball in set 1 is one of the ages at RG. GOAT pace absorption.

 

[Slicehand]

Being unlikable, there hes the goat

 

[NeutralFan]

Gandhi is a bit of a controversial figure in India right now among the current youth. We see him as a stooge of the british who begged for freedom (via non violent marches/protests and what not) but eventually the freedom was obtained because of the world war, not because of Gandhi. In the real world if somebody slaps you on 1 cheek and you extend your other cheek then people will think you are a glutton for punishment / a punching bag, they will have a free hand at you. Freedom is obtained by violence, not by non violence. Like the American war of independence, you have to get things done or else nobody will give you anything out of pity. Gandhi was probably an agent of the british who was designed to keep the public soft and controllable at that time. This is the view of Gandhi nowadays back home and I don't blame anyone, this kinda sounds logically right as well.

Didn't Gandhi make Indians join in the second world war to fight for the Brits? preaching non violence and then doing this? I researched Gandhi in details and he was full of contradictions and didn't practice what he preached and even then he had double standard about many beliefs.

 

[Sentinel]

Not quite sure no, but take a look at the list here

VO2 max World Records

And an attempt of an explanation here

The Ultimate Endurance Sport: Cross-Country Skiing - Pledge Sports

In this hugely popular series, we analyse different sports and their athletes to determine which is the Ultimate Endurance Sport.

www.pledgesports.org

Very Interesting. The data seems to be more north-europe/america centric with a few exceptions.

Dave Bedford is ancient* . Ngugi was 1984**. Pre (prefontaine had a vo2 higher than most american runners. I remember reading that Alberto Salazar was 68 or 72.

Back then for an american runner to have even the low 70s was quite good. The book I read back in the 80s mentioned some Don Kardong with 80+ but he didn't amount to much.

* ** Strangely they haven't tested the recent crop of marathoners in the last ten years.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Having non-existent gluten allergies diagnosed by being near bread and incorporating the findings into crock-of-sh1t explanations for radical improvements in physical performance.

MichaelJacksonPopcorn.gif.

 

[Sentinel]

I loved that Novak.

What happened to him

 

[helterskelter]

Gandhi is a bit of a controversial figure in India right now among the current youth. We see him as a stooge of the british who begged for freedom (via non violent marches/protests and what not) but eventually the freedom was obtained because of the world war, not because of Gandhi. In the real world if somebody slaps you on 1 cheek and you extend your other cheek then people will think you are a glutton for punishment / a punching bag, they will have a free hand at you. Freedom is obtained by violence, not by non violence. Like the American war of independence, you have to get things done or else nobody will give you anything out of pity. Gandhi was probably an agent of the british who was designed to keep the public soft and controllable at that time. This is the view of Gandhi nowadays back home and I don't blame anyone, this kinda sounds logically right as well.

Getting too deep into a discussion of Gandhi would be a distraction from this important thread. Certainly, he is and always has been a controversial figure who has many critics. But the crucial point is that even his most determined and indefatigable apologist could not plausibly deny that his contribution to world affairs is simply not on a par with that of the hero who brought the principle of Freedom of Choice to the masses at a time when it was most needed.

In the show The Good Place, Eleanor Shellstrop complains about being in the bad place, saying that although she wasn't freakin' Gandhi, she was a medium person and should be in a medium place. By parallel, Novak could also complain that he wasn't freakin' Gandhi, and that as an exceptional person he should be in an exceptional place.

 

[Clay lover]

I thought his Nadal crouching backhand and slice were spot on

 

[Razer]

Didn't Gandhi made Indians join in the second world war to fight for the Brits? preaching non violence and then doing this? I researched Gandhi in details and he was full of contradictions and didn't practice what he preached and even then he had double standard about many beliefs.

Yeah Gandhi did a lot of stuffs which are not straight forwardly patriotic, he is a controversial figure. A big country like India cannot be controlled by people sitting many thousands of miles away without Stooges and bootlickers among the Indian public itself. The more we dig into history the more we find these characters that we've been taught to be noble emerge as oposite of that.

 

[NeutralFan]

Yeah Gandhi did a lot of stuffs which are not straight forwardly patriotic, he is a controversial figure. A big country like India cannot be controlled by people sitting many thousands of miles away without Stooges and bootlickers among the Indian public itself. The more we dig into history the more we find these characters that we've been taught to be noble emerge as oposite of that.

Unironically this is true for most of the people who are worshipped and glorified by the establishment.

 

[NeutralFan]

Having non-existent gluten allergies diagnosed by being near bread and incorporating the findings into crock-of-sh1t explanations for radical improvements in physical performance.

MichaelJacksonPopcorn.gif.

Lmao

 

[Born_to_slice]

I loved that Novak.

What happened to him

He read the YouTube comments of Fed fans -"now imitate winning 11 slams".

 

[T007]

Faking injuries and MTOs to distract opponents

 

[WeekendTennisHack]

Aiming at lines people.

 

[fedfan24]

Yeah Gandhi did a lot of stuffs which are not straight forwardly patriotic, he is a controversial figure. A big country like India cannot be controlled by people sitting many thousands of miles away without Stooges and bootlickers among the Indian public itself. The more we dig into history the more we find these characters that we've been taught to be noble emerge as oposite of that.

India wasn't a united country before the British arrived. Do you even know your own history?

 

[NeutralFan]

India wasn't a united country before the British arrived. Do you even know your own history?

Oh the kind mighty Brits lol.

 

[Terenigma]

Djokovic's return of serve is a little overrated. He's undoubtably one of the greatest returners in general but not when we're talking specifically returning serve. I think Murray has a strong case to be one of, if not the best returner of serve and is well over him in that respect, Agassi too.

 

[initialize]

Hitting an overhead

Being liked

Staying calm, never any anger outbursts

Scientific knowledge

 

[joekapa]

Making fanboys cry. He is the best at that. Apparently the American Psychological Association will erect a statue in his honor soon.

 

[Indigo]

I think only in future people will realize how important and courageous Novak's decision to stand up for personal freedom was. He basically said: I don't care for tournaments and my career and I will not lose my freedom to be able to do with my body what I think is right... Just because of Novak media got to discuss the personal freedom of a man and woman. Before that it was all about suppression and restricting movement and human rights. People were literally closed in confined spaces for days, weeks and months. Was he the only public person in the world to risk his life and career by poking his finger in the eye of establishment and their puppets? That was brave. So please add: Novak is the bravest and possibly the craziest tennis player (and not just player but public person as well).

 

[Omega_7000]

Really the only thing he needs to do right now is stay injury free and he has been doing an excellent job at that. Doesn't need to do much more to win in 250 level tennis field at the slams.

 

[victorcruz]

Outlasting

 

[Azure]

This got a smile in my face

I've just woken up from a deep nap and am wondering if this is in jest or serious. If jest, then well done.

As a Gandhi doppelgänger you would know

 

[Ray Mercer]

I would probably add overhead to that list. His ability to hit the overhead from both sides in key moments has been a huge factor in his success. His volleying is also arguably better than Edberg’s. On the forehand side they’re close but Djokovic clearly has a better backhand volley put away.

 

[DSH]

You forgot STAMINA

He is the GOAT of Stamina, nobody is as good as him.

He is peaking at 36!

 

[DSH]

Outlasting

He is the 'Benjamin Button' of tennis.

 

[junior74]

Making fanboys cry. He is the best at that. Apparently the American Psychological Association will erect a statue in his honor soon.

As long as it looks like Peniston, it's fine

 

[Kralingen]

Gandhi was a weak era mug compared to real freedom fighters like Jacob Wohl

 

[fedfan24]

Oh the kind mighty Brits lol.

not all good, nor bad.. the guy is just an uneducated troll. Posts absolute nonsense day in day out.

 

[NeutralFan]

not all good, nor bad.. the guy is just an uneducated troll. Posts absolute nonsense day in day out.

Don't get me started , son! If anything @Razer is very smart and more often not he's unbiased when he's serious.

 

[Slicehand]

Killing tennis