Tired Nadal routed by federer in wtf final

[Deleted member 3771]

The match was very reminiscent of this match: Tired Nadal routed by Youzhny in Chennai final in that the result was 5% about the tennis and 95% about the recovery, so its pretty meaningless in to analyze the match in terms of forehands, backhands and serve etc. Nadal just didn't physically recover in time from the previous days marathon match vs Murray( he already noted how tired he was by the 2nd set there)he hit the wall physically just like his condition at the Chennai final. After 5 weeks of not competing it's not surprising.

 

[niff]

.... 5 weeks of competing?

Lol.

 

[Spider]

I don't agree -- a 24 year old should be able to recover a lot sooner than that. If a 29 year old is more fitter and can recover a lot better, it just shows Nadal is not a great athlete afterall. I am neither a Fed fan nor a Nadal fan but if you cannot recover after a 3 hour match when you are 24 year old then perhaps you don't deserve to be there at all.

Tennis is a physical sport but if players cannot recover on time, then that is something they need to work on (develop better talent to stop relying on their physical aspect of the game). Federer doesn't seem to ever have such problems and that should be the case for the rest of the players as well.

 

[namelessone]

Bullcrap.

Rafa did feel the Murray match a bit, you could see it in the way he moved and reacted but NO ONE could have beaten Federer in this WTF. Well maybe 2005 Nalbandian

The guy served lights out for most of the match and already had 10 winners before Rafa made his first one.

It's amazing that Rafa even got a set.

In the Youzhny match, Nadal was simply dead on his feet and Chennai isn't exactly the fastest court out there. Youzhny said he played the ghost of Nadal.

So troll thread overall.

 

[namelessone]

I don't agree -- a 24 year old should be able to recover a lot sooner than that. If a 29 year old is more fitter and can recover a lot better, it just shows Nadal is not a great athlete afterall. I am neither a Fed fan nor a Nadal fan but if you cannot recover after a 3 hour match when you are 24 year old then perhaps you don't deserve to be there at all.

Tennis is a physical sport but if players cannot recover on time, then that is something they need to work on (develop better talent to stop relying on their physical aspect of the game). Federer doesn't seem to ever have such problems and that should be the case for the rest of the players as well.

Well that would be ideal but most of the players don't have Federer's easygoing style, now do they? And I'm not just talking about Nadal.

 

[namui]

You can just restrict yourself to one match result (finals). But I look at WINNING THE TOURNAMENT. Fed played better the whole week (also against both Murray and Djokovic) and so took less work to reach the finals. The cause of Nadal's being relatively more tired in the finals (if any) was his own worse performance in the early rounds. How fit in the final round is each player's own doing.

 

[namelessone]

You can just restrict yourself to one match result (finals). But I look at WINNING THE TOURNAMENT. Fed played better the whole week (also against both Murray and Djokovic) and so took less work to reach the finals. The cause of Nadal's being relatively more tired in the finals (if any) was his own worse performance in the early rounds. How fit in the final round is each player's own doing.

QFT +1000.

 

[FTS]

they both faced the same murray, the murray that straighted fed last they met

 

[namelessone]

they both faced the same murray, the murray that straighted fed last they met

To be fair, Shanghai is higher bouncing so Murray had the advantage over Fed there.

 

[Omega_7000]

Excuses Excuses...Nadal's true side comes out after losing. It's easy to be Humbalito when you win all the time...

 

[Satch]

Excuses Excuses...Nadal's true side comes out after losing. It's easy to be Humbalito when you win all the time...

hehe tell that to Roger

 

[Sentinel]

The match was very reminiscent of this match: Tired Nadal routed by Youzhny in Chennai final in that the result was 5% about the tennis and 95% about the recovery, so its pretty meaningless in to analyze the match in terms of forehands, backhands and serve etc. Nadal just didn't physically recover in time from the previous days marathon match vs Murray( he already noted how tired he was by the 2nd set there)he hit the wall physically just like his condition at the Chennai final. After 5 weeks of not competing it's not surprising.

Whatever floats your boat.

Wait. not letting you get away so easily. You deserve a special lolcat for your ingenuity.

 

[T1000]

So Federer, who's 5 years older and played much later than Nadal and had less time to recover, recovered faster than a "fit" 24 year old in his prime? Good reasoning there you nadal hater

 

[Sentinel]

An insurance lolcat, as they say.

 

[aphex]

The match was very reminiscent of this match: Tired Nadal routed by Youzhny in Chennai final in that the result was 5% about the tennis and 95% about the recovery, so its pretty meaningless in to analyze the match in terms of forehands, backhands and serve etc. Nadal just didn't physically recover in time from the previous days marathon match vs Murray( he already noted how tired he was by the 2nd set there)he hit the wall physically just like his condition at the Chennai final. After 5 weeks of not competing it's not surprising.

 

[aphex]

The match was very reminiscent of this match: Tired Nadal routed by Youzhny in Chennai final in that the result was 5% about the tennis and 95% about the recovery, so its pretty meaningless in to analyze the match in terms of forehands, backhands and serve etc. Nadal just didn't physically recover in time from the previous days marathon match vs Murray( he already noted how tired he was by the 2nd set there)he hit the wall physically just like his condition at the Chennai final. After 5 weeks of not competing it's not surprising.

 

[ninman]

 

[abmk]

You can see - veroniquem summed it up perfectly. I have her words paraphrased in my signature

 

[rommil]

Rafa loses in a game of bingo against his grandmother and tells her he's tired.

 

[powerangle]

You can just restrict yourself to one match result (finals). But I look at WINNING THE TOURNAMENT. Fed played better the whole week (also against both Murray and Djokovic) and so took less work to reach the finals. The cause of Nadal's being relatively more tired in the finals (if any) was his own worse performance in the early rounds. How fit in the final round is each player's own doing.

Exactly. And as an athlete, it is your own responsibility for your fitness and how you manage it. It is part of being professional tennis player.

 

[fedtastic]

The match was very reminiscent of this match: Tired Nadal routed by Youzhny in Chennai final in that the result was 5% about the tennis and 95% about the recovery, so its pretty meaningless in to analyze the match in terms of forehands, backhands and serve etc. Nadal just didn't physically recover in time from the previous days marathon match vs Murray( he already noted how tired he was by the 2nd set there)he hit the wall physically just like his condition at the Chennai final. After 5 weeks of not competing it's not surprising.

Was Nadal also tired when youzhny beat him at the US Open 2006?

 

[wangs78]

This whole tired is always bullcrap in my opinion. If we buy this argument then we can say that Djokovic lost the USO final bc he played a 5 setter against Roger while Nadal breezed through in 3 sets against Youzhny? Sure they had an extra day of rest but still it was 5 sets! 5 SETS against the GOAT! Of course Djokovic had nothing left it would've taken him a week to recover!! And he STILL took a set from Nadal!

Sarcasm aside, I don't buy the tired argument. I think there is nothing wrong with someone who plays very well in a semifinal match earning a "reward" if you will of being fresher for the final.

 

[BlueBird]

Don't worry Fed fans. Nadal is too "tired" to be GOAT.

 

[NamRanger]

Bullcrap.

Rafa did feel the Murray match a bit, you could see it in the way he moved and reacted but NO ONE could have beaten Federer in this WTF. Well maybe 2005 Nalbandian

The guy served lights out for most of the match and already had 10 winners before Rafa made his first one.

It's amazing that Rafa even got a set.

In the Youzhny match, Nadal was simply dead on his feet and Chennai isn't exactly the fastest court out there. Youzhny said he played the ghost of Nadal.

So troll thread overall.

2005 Nalbandian is overrated. He played an unfit, bum ankle, rusty Federer who hadn't picked up a racquet for like 3-4 weeks and barely won in 5 sets, in a match that Federer should have won (serving for the 5th set). It's pretty easy to look good when you're playing against a weak field consisting of Gonzalez, Gaudio, and Coria.


Now, Nalbandian in 2007, that was truly impressive.