Tsitsipas On Felix Auger-Aliassime : 'I Might Never Beat Him'

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Mainad

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I'll give Stefanos a pass on this occasion. He got screwed by the schedule, had to play 2 matches yesterday because of the mid week washouts and the 2nd match was long and difficult. I'm guessing he didn't have too much energy left for this one.
 
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FRV

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I was starting to wonder the same thing. What is it, like 5-0 now including juniors? It's going to be big when Tsitsipas gets that first win.
 

thrust

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Are we on WTA or ATP?

Thiem, Tsitsipas, and Kyrgios are pathetic individuals
Kyrgios, yes the others, not. Hopefully though Stefanos is not serious, as he certainly has the game to beak FAA on an even basis, at least. It could just be in his head that FAA, a fine player who I really like, is too good for him to beat. Not a good attitude, for sure.
 

hipolymer

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Kyrgios, yes the others, not. Hopefully though Stefanos is not serious, as he certainly has the game to beak FAA on an even basis, at least. It could just be in his head that FAA, a fine player who I really like, is too good for him to beat. Not a good attitude, for sure.
The problem is not in their feelings or thoughts. If you still don't get it, the problem is with this histrionic, pathological, attention-seeking sycophancy. The problem is with their wanting to be lauded for how great sportsmen they are, or in Kyrgios's case, with how above-it-all he is with the sport.

Federer and Nadal have this same problem and obsession.
 

True Fanerer

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You couldn't pay me to say something like that this early in a rivalry. It would be different if it was 8-10 years from now.
 
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The problem is not in their feelings or thoughts. If you still don't get it, the problem is with this histrionic, pathological, attention-seeking sycophancy. The problem is with their wanting to be lauded for how great sportsmen they are, or in Kyrgios's case, with how above-it-all he is with the sport.
I somewhat agree with you, but he is very young and will likely grow out of it.
 

True Fanerer

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The problem is not in their feelings or thoughts. If you still don't get it, the problem is with this histrionic, pathological, attention-seeking sycophancy. The problem is with their wanting to be lauded for how great sportsmen they are, or in Kyrgios's case, with how above-it-all he is with the sport.

Federer and Nadal have this same problem and obsession.
Fedal would never say any b.s. like this though.
 

Benben245

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Federer and Nadal suffer from histrionic personality disorder and are sycophants of themselves? I could see a borderline and or bipolar diagnosis for Kyrgios but I think your lumping way too many different types of people into one psychological profile.
The problem is not in their feelings or thoughts. If you still don't get it, the problem is with this histrionic, pathological, attention-seeking sycophancy. The problem is with their wanting to be lauded for how great sportsmen they are, or in Kyrgios's case, with how above-it-all he is with the sport.

Federer and Nadal have this same problem and obsession.
The problem is not in their feelings or thoughts. If you still don't get it, the problem is with this histrionic, pathological, attention-seeking sycophancy. The problem is with their wanting to be lauded for how great sportsmen they are, or in Kyrgios's case, with how above-it-all he is with the sport.

Federer and Nadal have this same problem and obsession.
 

hipolymer

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Fedal would never say any b.s. like this though.
Federer and Nadal suffer from histrionic personality disorder and are sycophants of themselves? I could see a borderline and or bipolar diagnosis for Kyrgios but I think your lumping way too many different types of people into one psychological profile.


Histrionics manifests itself in different ways; with Fed it's his pride, with Nadal and Tsitsipas and Thiem it's with their "humbleness".
 

Red Rick

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The problem is not in their feelings or thoughts. If you still don't get it, the problem is with this histrionic, pathological, attention-seeking sycophancy. The problem is with their wanting to be lauded for how great sportsmen they are, or in Kyrgios's case, with how above-it-all he is with the sport.

Federer and Nadal have this same problem and obsession.
Brilliantly put.
 

Meles

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I'll give Stefanos a pass on this occasion. He got screwed by the schedule, had to play 2 matches yesterday because of the mid week washouts and the 2nd match was long and difficult. I'm guessing he didn't have too much energy left for this one.
LOL. NO. Tsits had to finish part of a set and then play a match. FAA played a whole five sets and two matches on the same day.
 

WhiskeyEE

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Federer and Nadal suffer from histrionic personality disorder and are sycophants of themselves? I could see a borderline and or bipolar diagnosis for Kyrgios but I think your lumping way too many different types of people into one psychological profile.

lol. Kyrgios does not have any personality disorder. In any other sport and in the real world he is a normal guy. Every other tennis player behaves weird (to the public) compared to average; not Nick.

Tennis is a sport full of loner introverts who are good at thinking before they talk. Kyrgios does not excel in that regard, but that's normal. His behaviour is also largely strategic. There is an allure in being the bad boy renegade, which he has clearly consciously tried to be ever since he stepped on court with his pink coloured Beats by Dre.
 
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mightyrick

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It's just a matchup issue for Tsitsipas and he doesn't have a way to neutralize players like Aliassime. Case in point, Tsitsipas is 0 and 4 versus Medvedev.

It's pretty clear that Tsitsipas doesn't like consistent, flatter players who can hit through the court and change direction of the ball at will.

Tsitsipas needs to work with his coach and figure out the adjustments he needs to make against guys like Medvedev and Aliassime. Otherwise, he's going to get bounced out of the quarters of every non-clay tournament he enters.
 

True Fanerer

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Histrionics manifests itself in different ways; with Fed it's his pride, with Nadal and Tsitsipas and Thiem it's with their "humbleness".
Nobody you named is a weirdo except Tsitsipas. That's the difference to me. They all have their quirks and that's what makes them who they are. Federer and Nadal have a responsibility too to the sport. Tsits is a fake that says humble things and does dirt on the court. Not to mention all the other stupid crap he does on social media. Thiem is just a nice guy.
 

JustBob

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Federer and Nadal suffer from histrionic personality disorder and are sycophants of themselves? I could see a borderline and or bipolar diagnosis for Kyrgios but I think your lumping way too many different types of people into one psychological profile.


Let me help, this pseudo psychological profile is bloody nonsense.
 

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hahahahahahahahhahah

Thiem and Tsitsipas are prime spawn of Nadal. The eternal underdogs, even against players younger than them

This match was a story of Fedr-ism (i.e. BP conversion). Stef had BPs earlier, and more often, but just couldn't convert any. Felix had them later, and less often, but converted 3. It was an even match (Stef was slightly better, imo), until the final game when Stef was deflated and was broken a 2nd time in set2 to lose the match. I think Stef lost a match he should've won in straights. Another Fedr-like thing ;).
 

oldmanfan

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I was starting to wonder the same thing. What is it, like 5-0 now including juniors? It's going to be big when Tsitsipas gets that first win.

I think Felix will have a great career, but I think Stef has the higher ceiling.

I feel that 5-0 stat is deceptive, just like the h2h between Fedr and Hewitt/Nalbandian. Hewitt won 7 of the first 9 Fedr encounters, but only won 2 of their next 18 matches. Nalbandian, like Felix against Stef, also went 5-0 against Fedr in their first 5 matches, but only won 3 of their next 14 matches.

I'm not saying Stef will become new-Fedr, nor am I saying Felix will become new-Hewitt/Nalbandian. I just think that they are fairly equally matched atm. I also think Stef has the higher ceiling.
 

Mustard

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I was starting to wonder the same thing. What is it, like 5-0 now including juniors? It's going to be big when Tsitsipas gets that first win.

Nalbandian had a big edge on Federer when they were juniors and in their early years on the main ATP tour, Nalbandian leading 5-0 against Federer in ATP matches after their 2003 US Open R16 match. When Federer hit gold at the 2003 Masters Cup, that dynamic mostly changed.
 
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hahahahahahahahhahah

Thiem and Tsitsipas are prime spawn of Nadal. The eternal underdogs, even against players younger than them
those words sound worse as they're taken out of context !
it seems stefanos has some respect for felix (the opposite appears to be true as well, according to their interviews), which isn't necessarily a bad thing ;)
(at least he didn't react as a sore loser !)
 
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Why this need to make a big deal out of anything a player says ? Like if a player juste says "I love strawberry pies", people will still say it's wrong or pathetic.
 

Baseline_Bungle

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Tsitsi is a bit of a drama queen. See his presser after Nadal loss in Australia or his rambling post after Wawrinka loss in MC for evidence. He obviously fancies himself as a major poet/philospher, maybe a little too full of himself. Especially when he's depressed after a loss, he tends to say stuff that will make you go... "huh?". Luckily for him, he's pretty good at his day job.
 

Nostradamus

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Tsitsi is a bit of a drama queen. See his presser after Nadal loss in Australia or his rambling post after Wawrinka loss in MC for evidence. He obviously fancies himself as a major poet/philospher, maybe a little too full of himself. Especially when he's depressed after a loss, he tends to say stuff that will make you go... "huh?". Luckily for him, he's pretty good at his day job.
I think stepanoe is a spoiled big time baby brat
 

Krish0608

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Stefanos is speaking his mind here. He's always been that way. When he's devastated, he usually pours it all out in the press. Doesnt hold back or give excuses. He knows Felix has his number from the junior days. He knows it's a difficult matchup. Instead of giving excuses, he's being honest that it's going to be a difficult challenge.

The self righteousness and judgemental posts on these boards is just something else. Only if a player plays, acts and behaves in a monochromatic way, along expected lines, he's liked and praised for his "maturity". You stray from the beaten track even a bit, and you are branded a "weirdo", "pretentious" "fake" as though you all know him personally. If Fed was an up and coming youngster now, he'd have been hated here for his temperament and "arrogance". Thank God he emerged at a time when there was not much social media and internet ruling our lives. So he was given the space to make mistakes, mess up, make adjustments and learn to be a better player and a better person.
 

el sergento

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Stef has better serve and mentality so he has a higher ceiling. But FAA is impressive now. Well, they both are.

Tough call. I’m inclined to agree though, even if I think that stroke for stroke FAA is better (except second serve).

Stephanos is just looser and more creative on court. He seems like a natural tennis player. FAA is amazing but a bit robotic.

Either way, thank god these guys showed up on tour.
 

EasyGoing

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Stefanos is speaking his mind here. He's always been that way. When he's devastated, he usually pours it all out in the press. Doesnt hold back or give excuses. He knows Felix has his number from the junior days. He knows it's a difficult matchup. Instead of giving excuses, he's being honest that it's going to be a difficult challenge.

The self righteousness and judgemental posts on these boards is just something else. Only if a player plays, acts and behaves in a monochromatic way, along expected lines, he's liked and praised for his "maturity". You stray from the beaten track even a bit, and you are branded a "weirdo", "pretentious" "fake" as though you all know him personally. If Fed was an up and coming youngster now, he'd have been hated here for his temperament and "arrogance". Thank God he emerged at a time when there was not much social media and internet ruling our lives. So he was given the space to make mistakes, mess up, make adjustments and learn to be a better player and a better person.

Completely agree. People complain how in tennis there is too much PR and political correctness (and there is), not enough colourful characters (and there aren't), and too many players just slugging it from the baseline (man, does this suck).

And then they get this obviously talented young guy with shades of Roger in terms of elegance, always going for his shots, looking to move forward any chance he gets, and, crucially, believing in himself and actually willing to take the legends on, not just being their sparring partner.

And what happens? He is slated for his childish behaviour - well he is still a child, dimwits! Didn't anyone here do and say crazy sh*t when they were 20? I sure did, lots of it. Give a guy a break, he'll grow out of it. And even if he doesn't, so what? This should primarily be about tennis, the game - you are not watchinga freaking reality show! At least he is true to himself and looks like a real human, even if flawed. I'll take Stefanos the flawed human any day over fake humble Nadal or fake full of love Nole.
 

Dolgopolov85

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Stefanos is speaking his mind here. He's always been that way. When he's devastated, he usually pours it all out in the press. Doesnt hold back or give excuses. He knows Felix has his number from the junior days. He knows it's a difficult matchup. Instead of giving excuses, he's being honest that it's going to be a difficult challenge.

The self righteousness and judgemental posts on these boards is just something else. Only if a player plays, acts and behaves in a monochromatic way, along expected lines, he's liked and praised for his "maturity". You stray from the beaten track even a bit, and you are branded a "weirdo", "pretentious" "fake" as though you all know him personally. If Fed was an up and coming youngster now, he'd have been hated here for his temperament and "arrogance". Thank God he emerged at a time when there was not much social media and internet ruling our lives. So he was given the space to make mistakes, mess up, make adjustments and learn to be a better player and a better person.
Of course he is speaking his mind but "might never beat him" is the talk of a Sam Querrey, not somebody who said earlier this week he hoped he could be the one to end the triopoly of Fedalovic. I don't mind him sounding upset about losing as that's normal. I am just disappointed by his defeatism. If he says this out loud to the world, he is going to believe it himself as well and keep losing to FAA.
 

Azure

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Of course he is speaking his mind but "might never beat him" is the talk of a Sam Querrey, not somebody who said earlier this week he hoped he could be the one to end the triopoly of Fedalovic. I don't mind him sounding upset about losing as that's normal. I am just disappointed by his defeatism. If he says this out loud to the world, he is going to believe it himself as well and keep losing to FAA.
To be fair to him I think his rants are a result of his capricious mind. He had made similar statements about Rafa after his defeat at his hands at the AO this year but later handed him a defeat as well. I would give him more time but yes, I wish he'd beat the bigger guys more regularly. Regardless I do not think it's going to happen on grass.
 
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