TT warrior 100 vs TT tour 100P

[Roms]

Hello,

I have one Prince TT tour 100T and I love the feel and many things about this stick, but I would like another raquet to upgrade, to have a little "more" (I will keep the 100T and I want a second stick but not the same). As I want to stay with Prince, I will choose between the TT warrior 100 and the 100P.

Here are my thoughs :

- With the warrior, I will gain easy power and spin, better play when I will not be in good fit, but do I will loose many control and feeling ?
- With the 100P, I will gain even more precision and stability, but what about power and maneuvrability ?

I think that for my game (I love to play strategic, and vary a lot my shots style and direction, even if I tend to more flat, I am not a big hitter but I like to use all areas of the court) the 100P will be better, but i am worried about loose to many power and more important maneuvrability compared to the 100T.

My questions are if there is a huge gap in term of power, sweetspot, maneuvrability between the 100P and the 100T ?

On a rate scale of 0 to 10, how do you rate all these 3 sticks about :
- Power
- Control
- Forgiveness (sweetspot size)
- Maneuvrability

I am a 3.0 player and I ask myself is the 100P is not to difficult to use ? If it is I will go for the warrior and its easy power.

Thank you a lot.

 

[JohnBPittsburgh]

Do you want the honest answer, or do you want me to tell you to go buy a new toy? Serious question. I could be salesman John or your friend John Salesman John wants you to go out and buy a shiny new racquet and get some expensive strings in it

Here's why. You already have an amazing frame. At best, you could spend $20 on a leather grip, lead tape and blutack, and experiment a little, to get some extra power if you want. The Warrior will be a little boost in power over the T, but the string patterns are very similar, you aren't going to blast anyone off the court with the difference in spin. The P is also a great frame, but it isn't going to be a boost in power, and the control difference between the T and P, is minute.

You would gain 80% more spin, control, and power with a couple lessons. If you want to spend a couple bucks and upgrade your frame, get it restrung with a very nice string (17 gauge suits the frame very well). I also think a Fairway leather grip looks great on the TT100T.

The reason I say this to you. I was in the same position as you 2 years ago, and I thought the way to more spin/power/control, was in a different frame. I still have my TT100T, and love it!!! I have hit with the entire Textreme line (I own them all lol) and honestly, I would be probably better if I would have only stuck with my TT100T. It has been fun as heck hitting with all kinds of frames. But when I stick with one, I get to know it better, and it becomes an extension of my arm!!! I think as tennis players, it's too easy to just get a racquet, a can of balls and play. We like to complicate it!!!! The allure of wondering if that new frame is going to give us the advantage to destroy our opponents on court. Or if these twisted, 29 sided strings coated with snake venom will rip the felt off the ball

The secret of tennis is this. Once you find a frame, just play the game, and enjoy the time spent with friends away from work. I wish you luck out on the court!!! I hope you don't become a hopeless racquetaholic like me

 

[Roms]

Thank you a lot for your answer. I appreciate your honesty. The fact is that I want to buy a second stick because I just have one 100T and I would like a second raquet. I could buy a second 100T, but as I play more for pleasure than for competition, I prefer to have two different stick (but not to much different) to vary feeling and maybe to gain something more. And I can switch one of other stick as I want.

 

[SinjinCooper]

How old are you? No 3.0 is going to get nearly the play out of a 100T or 100P that they will/can out of a Warrior. But either the 100T or 100P would be a fine racquet for a younger 3.0 with legitimate aspirations to improve to 4.0 and beyond.

I'd say 40+, definitely go Warrior. You'll never outgrow that racquet at this point. (And it's entirely possible to learn to play well with a more powerful racquet at higher levels, anyway, even if most may prefer something more control oriented.)

In your 20's or younger, I'd go for the 100P, assuming you'd like to keep the racquets you choose for a while. You won't play your absolute best with it for now, but it'll be demanding enough to force you to improve in order to get consistent power and spin, yet forgiving enough that you can compete with other 3.0's without too much trouble.

In your 30's, just try to be realistic with yourself about your level of potential and likely time you'll be able to devote to improvement before you decide.

 

[o0lunatik]

In addition to @JohnBPittsburgh, I too owned every textreme model 100 sq/in and under including the TT Harrier 100XR from Japan. I much prefer the TT100T over all in terms of power, control and spin, and the 100T is my primary frame. Most of the textreme frame has similar feel and with nice textreme throaty punch and pop. Warrior seems a bit polarized (more weight at the tips) than other model. Sure warrior does have a little more power and slightly larger sweet spot, but that you lose in the warrior from the 100T is the more accurate feel and control. The TT100T is no slouch in terms of power. It's right up there with the warrior and could be even up'd with lead.

I would like to add that the TT Harrier Pro, which is the updated Warrior Pro, plays much better than the TT Warrior in every aspect. Period. Funny how Prince Japan offers several diff versions of the same model racquet in their market and not here in the states. More Prince loyal Asians for sure.

100P is another excellent frame but it does not have the pocketing and head speed like the 100T. Though it has a tad more on the control and plow level, you can get this by going with more controlled-oriented strings and lead on your 100T. I am not bias for the 100T or making you stick with your 100T, but only speaking from my experience ... trial and error and to-know basis... messing around with the textreme line. As your skill level grows, your game will evolve. You may find out in time the differences or benefits a racquet could bring to your game. But be warned, racquetholicism will F you up. Ha! It's best to become one with it... a frame that you know in and out.

 

[n8dawg6]

i hate the thick beam of the TT warrior, but it's very stable for the weight in stock form. it makes my forehands look like i actually know what im doing.

 

[Khoi Pham]

To be honest, there's no reason for you to get a second stick unless if you've significantly outgrown your old one. It's better to get used to one frame rather than keep switching, especially when you don't really benefit that much from this switch. If anything, you can slap on a leather grip and it'll probably play similar to a softer warrior 100. 100P Is a control racquet, so I don't think it has that free power that you're looking for.

 

[Roms]

Hello, thank you for your answer. I am 29 years old and my classement is 3.0 but I play between 3.0 and 3.5 (but I am not really sure about equivalence, In France I am 15/4)

I don't think to improve my level a lot and to become a really great player, I just want to improve myself a bit a to have pleasure on the court.

After thought, I think to go with the warrior, as it go in more "easy way" than the 100P. Maybe I will loose a bit control, but the free power and spin that I can gain can help me in hard days If it a bit more stable and powerful than the 100T it could be my main stick, and I will keep the tour just for fun (as I don't play a lot in tournaments, I don't need two same raquet).

Thanks a lot for your help.

 

[JohnBPittsburgh]

I am sure it will serve you well! Enjoy your time on the tennis court! Happy Holidays!!!

 

[Muppet]

If you aspire to string-aholism, having two identical racquets would help you compare strings. But if you do go this way, be sure to use the TW racquet matching service (phone in your order) for $10 more, requesting that the new racquet be selected from their stock to match your requested specs.

 

[Jbou]

Hello, thank you for your answer. I am 29 years old and my classement is 3.0 but I play between 3.0 and 3.5 (but I am not really sure about equivalence, In France I am 15/4)

I don't think to improve my level a lot and to become a really great player, I just want to improve myself a bit a to have pleasure on the court.

After thought, I think to go with the warrior, as it go in more "easy way" than the 100P. Maybe I will loose a bit control, but the free power and spin that I can gain can help me in hard days If it a bit more stable and powerful than the 100T it could be my main stick, and I will keep the tour just for fun (as I don't play a lot in tournaments, I don't need two same raquet).

Thanks a lot for your help.

15/4 in france matches better with 4.0 I think.
100P is on the control side, precision and low lanuch angle. Not much spin, but but not bad for a 18x20.
TT warrior is on the power an spin side. Yet the mix of power and control is quite good because it is not a stiff frame. Sweet spot is large and maneuvrability is great, better than 100P; It' s an easy racquet I found it great with hyper G 1.20 at 23/21 kg.
Both are good, but it depends on your game style.

 

[BillKid]

15/4 in france matches better with 4.0 I think.
100P is on the control side, precision and low lanuch angle. Not much spin, but but not bad for a 18x20.
TT warrior is on the power an spin side. Yet the mix of power and control is quite good because it is not a stiff frame. Sweet spot is large and maneuvrability is great, better than 100P; It' s an easy racquet I found it great with hyper G 1.20 at 23/21 kg.
Both are good, but it depends on your game style.

From my experience in Canada were there are a lot of frenchies, 15/4 in France may be more like 4.5
4.0 would be closer to the 30 level
5.0 would be like 15/1 to 15
But the philosophy of NTRP ranking is very different from the one in France. NTRP may be more subjective I think.

 

[Jbou]

From my experience in Canada were there are a lot of frenchies, 15/4 in France may be more like 4.5
4.0 would be closer to the 30 level
5.0 would be like 15/1 to 15
But the philosophy of NTRP ranking is very different from the one in France. NTRP may be more subjective I think.

Ok thanks for the information. The point is that 15/4 is far better than 3.0, which is what our friend Roms suposed at first.

 

[Roms]

Thank you for this information, I understand better now, at first I was looking a conversion picture between usa and french rank but I think they are wrong because they say 3.0 = 15/5 to 15/3. On the TT forum I was seeing lot of peaople 4.0 or 4.5 and I was saying myself "wow american average level is way better than us in France" lol