Two Handed Forehand-the Future of Tennis !!!

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“Old wanker from a third world country.”
That’s problematic because it’s wrong. Gregory, while dogmatic and Rain Man-like in his conviction, is a reasonable player who can banter civilly , and Poland is nowhere near the third world. Try and be a little more nuanced and informed in your criticism.
This entire thread is wrong.
 

TnsGuru

Professional
GD if you want to keep the naysayers at bay about your identity on these videos, just take a picture of yourself closeup and we will see if indeed you are the dude playing and you won't get so much flack from this forum. I think this could help your credibility and people will start to favor you more.
 
GD if you want to keep the naysayers at bay about your identity on these videos, just take a picture of yourself closeup and we will see if indeed you are the dude playing and you won't get so much flack from this forum. I think this could help your credibility and people will start to favor you more.
The guy GD claims to be is the same guy in the videos. Whether GD actually is that guy isn't clear. Though it's entirely possible GD is that guy and is either trolling us for fun or completely delusional about his abilities. Fwiw that guy is a UTR 8, so he's pretty good for a 55+ player but nothing special.
 

Rubens

Hall of Fame
GD if you want to keep the naysayers at bay about your identity on these videos, just take a picture of yourself closeup and we will see if indeed you are the dude playing and you won't get so much flack from this forum. I think this could help your credibility and people will start to favor you more.

Agreed. Also, to prove authenticity of the photo, OP has to hold a fish in his hand, and place a loaf of bread on his head. If he fails to do so, he will forever be ridiculed in the most cruel way on this board.
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
Agreed. Also, to prove authenticity of the photo, OP has to hold a fish in his hand, and place a loaf of bread on his head. If he fails to do so, he will forever be ridiculed in the most cruel way on this board.
I am going to record a lesson of two handed forehand. I will be holding a fish in my hand and a bread on my head. It is necessary because otherwise one handed players wouldnt understand anything.

I try to think why the bread and fish are so important for one handed players from US. We all know that US was created by the poorest people from Poland, England and other countries of Europe and slaves from Africa. Maybe their ancestors were hungry and thought only about fish and bread. It would explain everything.

Now I understand why they couldnt understand my comments about two handed forehand. I used too complicated words. I should use words related to fish and bread.

So I may start here.

Imagine that a fish is approaching you with a great speed. Are you going to catch it using one or two hands ?

And what if it is not a fish but heavy bread ?

I think it is enough for first lesson.
 
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Gregory Diamond

Professional
Today I practiced lower position of the body. Almost for a year I have been trying to solve problems with low balls. It turned out that the only solution was to lower my body. If the ball dont want to be high then I have to be low. I knew it before but I didnt know that I have to be so low. Knees almost touching the ground sometimes .
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
lmao you guys are getting trolled so hard by some old wanker from a third world country. just accept defeat and say with me "Yes the two handed forehand is the future of tennis!" BAHAHAHAHHAHAA

I have been telling these guys that they won't go anywhere no matter how solid their arguments are. That the guy will never concede and will continue to ignore their protestations. I guess they just want to see for themselves :)
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
I have been telling these guys that they won't go anywhere no matter how solid their arguments are. That the guy will never concede and will continue to ignore their protestations. I guess they just want to see for themselves :)
You cant expect me to say that two handed forehand is not the future of tennis if I win almost everything. I cant find in your comments any logical arguments why I shouldnt use two handed forehand if it is the main reason of my wins. If it works for a person with an injured right wrist it would work for a healthy person even better. There is no doubt. Two handed forehand allows to use the energy from our strongest muscles.
 

Big Bagel

Professional
If it works for a person with an injured right wrist it would work for a healthy person even better. There is no doubt.
If crutches help someone with an injured foot get around easier and quicker it would work for a healthy person even better. There is no doubt.

If eye glasses help someone with bad eyes see easier they would work for a healthy person even better. There is no doubt.
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
You cant expect me to say that two handed forehand is not the future of tennis if I win almost everything. I cant find in your comments any logical arguments why I shouldnt use two handed forehand if it is the main reason of my wins. If it works for a person with an injured right wrist it would work for a healthy person even better. There is no doubt. Two handed forehand allows to use the energy from our strongest muscles.

Hey GD you must have mistaken me for somebody else here :) I have never made any logical arguments. I don't have any stand on anything. The only claim that I make is that you're not real and you can never dissuade me from that regardless of what you say.

EDIT: And the only reason I keep reading this thread is that you make me laugh.
 
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Gregory Diamond

Professional
If crutches help someone with an injured foot get around easier and quicker it would work for a healthy person even better. There is no doubt.

If eye glasses help someone with bad eyes see easier they would work for a healthy person even better. There is no doubt.
You are not blind and you see that my forehand improved even during last month. It was a very good stroke before but now it is a great weapon. My kind of two handed forehand allows to use muscles which in one handed forehand are not active. You get more power. The stronger you are the more you can gain using two handed forehand. In my case I can assess that two handed forehand increased my power at least 2 times. Can you imagine Federer, Nadal and Djokovic accelerating the ball to the the speed about 30% greater than they do it now ? If you were not stubborn you could be much better player after one month. Switching to my forehand is easy because in the first phase right hand works exactly the same as in one handed forehand. Why havent you tried it so far if it is so easy ? You would know if it is good or not. You are just talking about something you dont understand.
 

Big Bagel

Professional
You are not blind and you see that my forehand improved even during last month. It was a very good stroke before but now it is a great weapon. My kind of two handed forehand allows to use muscles which in one handed forehand are not active. You get more power. The stronger you are the more you can gain using two handed forehand. In my case I can assess that two handed forehand increased my power at least 2 times. Can you imagine Federer, Nadal and Djokovic accelerating the ball to the the speed about 30% greater than they do it now ? If you were not stubborn you could be much better player after one month. Switching to my forehand is easy because in the first phase right hand works exactly the same as in one handed forehand. Why havent you tried it so far if it is so easy ? You would know if it is good or not. You are just talking about something you dont understand.
I didn't say anything about the two handed forehand in the post you quoted. I was merely showing you what the logic you used implies, nothing else. Clearly the two handed forehand is the future of your tennis, I am not denying that.
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
I didn't say anything about the two handed forehand in the post you quoted. I was merely showing you what the logic you used implies, nothing else. Clearly the two handed forehand is the future of your tennis, I am not denying that.
You cant say that two handed forehand is the future of tennis because it shortens the reach.
 

Big Bagel

Professional
You cant say that two handed forehand is the future of tennis because it shortens the reach.
Yeah, but if you need to reach, you can always use one hand for that. Players with two handed backhands do that all the time; two hands if they can reach it, one hand if they are desperate.
 
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Chadalina

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Doesnt the modern 2h fh need to be occasionally sliced? Santoro did it well.

Hitting waist lvl topspin looks like the wta 2h version instead of the atp 2h fh.
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
Yeah, but if you need to reach, you can always use one hand for that. Players with two handed backhands do that all the time; two hands if they can reach it, one hand if they are desperate.
And the head of the racket in two handed forehand moves not so fast as in one handed forehand. How can you hit the ball faster if the head moves slower ? If two handed forehand was so good then we would see a lot of players from top 10 using it and I cant see even one.
 

user92626

G.O.A.T.
You cant say that two handed forehand is the future of tennis because it shortens the reach.
And the head of the racket in two handed forehand moves not so fast as in one handed forehand. How can you hit the ball faster if the head moves slower ? If two handed forehand was so good then we would see a lot of players from top 10 using it and I cant see even one.
Now I'm confused. Did someone hack Greg's account? He's saying the opposite now!
 

Adm

Rookie
Let's put it another way:

You can play with your two handed forehand from both sides AND

Playing against any top 100 ATP player who plays against you
one handed backhand from BOTH sides

...

you would still loose!
 

Big Bagel

Professional
And the head of the racket in two handed forehand moves not so fast as in one handed forehand. How can you hit the ball faster if the head moves slower ? If two handed forehand was so good then we would see a lot of players from top 10 using it and I cant see even one.
That's because no good male player (other than Nadal who was forced to switch) ever used two handed forehands in the first place.
 
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Gregory Diamond

Professional
Let's put it another way:

You can play with your two handed forehand from both sides AND

Playing against any top 100 ATP player who plays against you
one handed backhand from BOTH sides

...

you would still loose!
I would be stupid if I didnt agree. It is obvious. I could accept the thought that two handed forehand is good for people with an injured wrist but I dont understand why healthy person would use it limiting the reach and the speed of the racket.
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
That's because no good male player (other than Nadal who was forced to switch) ever used two handed forehands in the first place.
It is true that I have won a lot of tournaments since the beginning of May but I beat only weaker players. It is not difficult to beat weaker players even using two handed forehand.
 
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Chadalina

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Santoro often used two handed slice instead of two handed topspin because he didnt use proper grip.

Your hitting balls waist level, he is hitting balls above his shoulder. Maybe the grip change was needed against pro's
 

Gregory Diamond

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Your hitting balls waist level, he is hitting balls above his shoulder. Maybe the grip change was needed against pro's
Santoro used almost continental grip of right hand so the higher the ball the more open his racket was. We cant be surprised that he used slice then. I use western grip of right hand so the higher the ball the better for me.
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
GD if you want to keep the naysayers at bay about your identity on these videos, just take a picture of yourself closeup and we will see if indeed you are the dude playing and you won't get so much flack from this forum. I think this could help your credibility and people will start to favor you more.
I myself am not sure if this guy in videos is me. He looks the same as me but it proves nothing. How can I be sure if me is me ?
 

3loudboys

G.O.A.T.
I would be stupid if I didnt agree. It is obvious. I could accept the thought that two handed forehand is good for people with an injured wrist but I dont understand why healthy person would use it limiting the reach and the speed of the racket.

GD - either you’ve had an epiphany or you’re playing.


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Gregory Diamond

Professional
GD - either you’ve had an epiphany or you’re playing.


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I agree that forehands of Nadal, Djokovic and Federer are over 25 years old but two handed forehand is not new too. It would be stupid to assume that coaches all over world didnt teach two handed forehand if it was so good as Gregory Diamond claims.
 

3loudboys

G.O.A.T.
I agree that forehands of Nadal, Djokovic and Federer are over 25 years old but two handed forehand is not new too. It would be stupid to assume that coaches all over world didnt teach two handed forehand if it was so good as Gregory Diamond claims.

Help me out - was that a double or triple negative? Do you often refer to yourself in the third person when performing a U turn?


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Gregory Diamond

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Help me out - was that a double or triple negative? Do you often refer to yourself in the third person when performing a U turn?


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If me is not me, and we cant be sure because there is no proof, then it would be stupid to call him me if he was some strange person.
 

3loudboys

G.O.A.T.
If me is not me, and we cant be sure because there is no proof, then it would be stupid to call him me if he was some strange person.

Clearly you are not your self and we are or are not they that doubt that you are you or not. It’s like the G without the D GD.


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Gregory Diamond

Professional
We should try to answer the question why there is no progress in tennis for over 25 years. Why 25 years old forehands of Nadal, Federer and Djokovic are now the best. We see that almost all young players use open stance what results in using only arm when they play forehand. Open stance is justified when a player has not time but they use open stance almost always. Short swing is another problem. Two handed forehand wins because it allows to use legs. It allows to achieve greater speed of the ball with slower speed of the racket what gives much more control. We cant be surprised that I win almost all matches played against one handed players.
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
We should try to answer the question why there is no progress in tennis for over 25 years. Why 25 years old forehands of Nadal, Federer and Djokovic are now the best. We see that almost all young players use open stance what results in using only arm when they play forehand. Open stance is justified when a player has not time but they use open stance almost always. Short swing is another problem. Two handed forehand wins because it allows to use legs. It allows to achieve greater speed of the ball with slower speed of the racket what gives much more control. We cant be surprised that I win almost all matches played against one handed players.
:-D:-D:-D:-D
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
After 792 posts we at least established that one handed forehand ended its progress 25 years ago. It is dead. We shouldnt waste time talking about it.

You should watch my forehand winner from last video at 0:12. It is perfection. The whole body engaged in the stroke. Could you imagine what tennis would be like if Nadal, Federer, and Djokovic could hit such forehands ?
 
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Gregory Diamond

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Can we all please agree with Gregory Diamond so he no longer has a reason to be here?
You should agree but you should understand why you agree. We all see that we are at the beginning of our discussion. We made some progress but it is not enough. At least we eastablished that me is me. It was not easy. Some of one handed players asked for proof with fish and bread.
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
You should agree but you should understand why you agree. We all see that we are at the beginning of our discussion. We made some progress but it is not enough. At least we eastablished that me is me. It was not easy. Some of one handed players asked for proof with fish and bread.

Yes, fish and bread... (y)
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
Yes, fish and bread... (y)
I promised a video with a lesson of two handed forehand where I will be holding a fish in my hand and a loaf of bread on my head. I dont know why it is so important for one handed players but I`ll try to do it if it is the only way to prove that me is me and without it we cant prove that two handed forehand is the future of tennis.
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
I promised a video with a lesson of two handed forehand where I will be holding a fish in my hand and a loaf of bread on my head. I dont know why it is so important for one handed players but I`ll try to do it if it is the only way to prove that me is me and without it we cant prove that two handed forehand is the future of tennis.

I am looking forward to it
 

Gregory Diamond

Professional
You can see in my videos that very often my back leg goes forward after the stroke. In backhand and in forehand. It means that the whole body pushed the ball. One handed players after the stroke usually stay vertical. Their legs stay where they were before the stroke. They use only arm.
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
You can see in my videos that very often my back leg goes forward after the stroke. In backhand and in forehand. It means that the whole body pushed the ball. One handed players after the stroke usually stay vertical. Their legs stay where they were before the stroke. They use only arm.

I can't see, can you please screenshot your video, and label where it is happening? Please help me see Gregory.
 
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