Volkl Powerbridge 10 - Playtest Preview

[vantageboy]

pb10 and j---x2

stiffness measured 63 strung on a babolat machine--very solid feeling-no noticeable flex from any part of the frame yet comfortable(sensitve elbow/shoulder)-i'm thinking a soft new x-cel premium 17 g. at 52 lbs will take a littke of the boardeness out of the 18x20 pattern and still give u great control--got some great kick on my 2nd serves 2.-great backhand slicing machine. quality is top notch. nogojoe

 

[StunLock]

stiffness measured 63 strung on a babolat machine--very solid feeling-no noticeable flex from any part of the frame yet comfortable(sensitve elbow/shoulder)-i'm thinking a soft new x-cel premium 17 g. at 52 lbs will take a littke of the boardeness out of the 18x20 pattern and still give u great control--got some great kick on my 2nd serves 2.-great backhand slicing machine. quality is top notch. nogojoe

Did you also happen to take a measurement of the SW? Thanks.

 

[NoBadMojo]

stiffness measured 63 strung on a babolat machine--very solid feeling-no noticeable flex from any part of the frame yet comfortable(sensitve elbow/shoulder)-i'm thinking a soft new x-cel premium 17 g. at 52 lbs will take a littke of the boardeness out of the 18x20 pattern and still give u great control--got some great kick on my 2nd serves 2.-great backhand slicing machine. quality is top notch. nogojoe

I posted earlier that I thought the stiffness is 63-64 from playing with the frame. Off topic a bit, but I really cant understand how posters insist the stiffness measurement means nothing...it bends the frame and measures the stiffness..thats' what it does..simply..and accurately. Personally, I would much prefer to believe the machine reading over someone elses 'perception' of the stiffness which may be right, close, or way off.

I'm taking the same path as you with the string tension. I started out at 56-57 w. Klip Excellerator and now have one strung at 53 w. gut hybrid. I think i can control the power. I also think this will expand the sweetzone quite a bit

Also agree with your 2nd serve kicker assessment and the sliced backhand. For some reason that mold created a terrific frame for the backhand slice. The T10MPgen1 <which I used for a few years> was the best i've ever known for the sliced backhand. this racquet is born of the same tooling and it is def up there as well. As for the kicker, for some reason dense stringbeds seem to defy logic and excel <more than 16m's> at the kicker provided the racquet is balanced headlight

 

[vantageboy]

pb10 and j--x3

sorry---no on the swingweight-feels like 320 or so-feels very solid holding it and shadow swinging-very stabil when striking the ball ( that popular word here-"plow through") new to this talk tennis stuff --we are lucky to have nbm and posters like him helping us make racquet decisions. its hot here in central fla. and the older i get the worst my body hurts after play-i play with a vantage 95 and i get the priviledge to try many models prior to release because we have a great shop here. nogojoe

 

[NoBadMojo]

sorry---no on the swingweight-feels like 320 or so-feels very solid holding it and shadow swinging-very stabil when striking the ball ( that popular word here-"plow through") new to this talk tennis stuff --we are lucky to have nbm and posters like him helping us make racquet decisions. its hot here in central fla. and the older i get the worst my body hurts after play-i play with a vantage 95 and i get the priviledge to try many models prior to release because we have a great shop here. nogojoe

thank you.

 

[NoBadMojo]

Thought to update this as I'm just about through with my playtesting of the PB10 and have decided to stick w. the Becker11Mid. The PB10 is an awesome frame and I could switch to it, but i dont have the type of precision with it on the funky clay to get the best out of it. the sweetzone isnt any larger than the 11Mid and the results arent as good on miss hits w. the PB10. power levels are similar, control is similar, spin is similar, 11mid is more comfortable and softer, 11Mid volleys better, PB10 better on the serve w. targetting, groundstrokes pretty equal but edge to PB10 on sliced backhand, PB10 slightly easier to get around on the ball with, B11 is better on the specialty shots and reflex shots and the shots that keep you in points, and etc.

I'm going to suggest to Volkl they drill the PB10 for 16mains..think that would make an awesome imposing racquet for a thin beamed frame, and the sweetzone would expand markedly.

 

[OzNQc]

Yo MoJo! What's the PB10 like in comparison to the VE10 MP?

Gday Mojo!

Hope you are having fun with those BBs on the clay!

Thanks for the playtest review. I don't know what the DNX or BB bats feel like so what are the PB10s like in comparison to my VE10 MPs?

Do you think the SW of the PB10s will decrease eventually during their production to 315 or less like my current production of the VE10 MPs?

Once the PB10s run through their product cycle and get cheap, they could be viable options after my VE10 MPs die!

Cheers!

 

[OzNQc]

Interesting observation about PB10 and Tour 9 Gen 1

12 oz if strung with anything but poly or kevlar. more if string w. poly or kevlar

.9HL if strung with anything but poly or kevlar. less headlight if strung w. poly or kevlar

swingweight was my guess strung w. the excellerator...add about 5 points if string w. poly



I was thinking about that, and the only thing I can come up with would be the old Tour9 if you've ever played that one. None of the Volkls or Beckers feel like ProStaffs. The trend even for so called players frames is stiffer and often lighter
It's comfortable if you string it mid range or lower and dont use poly or some other harsh nasty string, but people have varying opinions of comfort
Directional control is like the other 10series frames with dense stringbeds...except this one gives you more of the juice

Thanks Mojo! Maybe you have inadvertently answered one of my questions with the Tour 9 Gen 1 as a reference point I had a 3 x Tour 9 Gen 1s.
It was a really stiff agile racquet with a big sweetspot. However, I had to swing like an ape on banana flavoured steroids to keep up with the stronger boyzzzz even with the inherent trampoline effect (BIG GROMMETS). Funnily, the trampoline effect sucked more with lead tape. In the end, I ditched them and I found out serendipitously that I liked a heavier weighted racquet with a tad more SW and more HL. i.e something that had some controllable steroid power. i.e. the VE10 MP modified!

Cheers!

 

[sargeinaz]

I'm going to suggest to Volkl they drill the PB10 for 16mains..think that would make an awesome imposing racquet for a thin beamed frame, and the sweetzone would expand markedly.

I agree. I think that volkl should go back to 16x19 in their MidPlus 10 series frames. They can let Becker use the 18x20 pattern in their 11 series MidPlus rackets.

 

[ericsson]

I agree. I think that volkl should go back to 16x19 in their MidPlus 10 series frames. They can let Becker use the 18x20 pattern in their 11 series MidPlus rackets.

Agree here!

 

[NoBadMojo]

Gday Mojo!

Hope you are having fun with those BBs on the clay!

Thanks for the playtest review. I don't know what the DNX or BB bats feel like so what are the PB10s like in comparison to my VE10 MPs?

Do you think the SW of the PB10s will decrease eventually during their production to 315 or less like my current production of the VE10 MPs?

Once the PB10s run through their product cycle and get cheap, they could be viable options after my VE10 MPs die!

Cheers!

I dont know if they will change the specs of this frame during its production run.

Your 10VEMP's are softer feeling and have a more lively stringbed than the PB10

and thanks...i am enjoying the 11Mids and am playing at a new venue where the bounces are much better

 

[NoBadMojo]

Just a quick update as I am unwilling to give up on this frame.
In comparing it to the 11Mid, I like it very slightly better on most all of the shots, but for some inexplicable reason, I cant get my volleys going with this stick, and I think I volley pretty well with most anything reasonable. The problem is that the volley lacks sting. good feel and placement but no big court penetration. I think the 11Mid is just about the best volleying frame i've ever used. That and the 11Std.
These days, there isnt much volleying going on in singles especially on the clay, and I dont play much doubles, so I am very much up in the air here although would happily play any of several frames that I like.
Truth be known, if I was still playing tournies and didnt get all this stuff for free, I would still likely be swinging my old tricked up Gen1's until they fatigued. I'll work with the PB10again some time because I do like this frame a lot and it is slightly more nimble than the 11Mid, but in the meantime, the 11Mid sure is sweet and I've got nice clay to play on now with good bounces.

 

[TourTenor]

In comparing it to the 11Mid, I like it very slightly better on most all of the shots, but for some inexplicable reason, I cant get my volleys going with this stick, and I think I volley pretty well with most anything reasonable.

Mojo, I'll bite ... can you give us some more details on why the PB10 is slightly better on "most all of the shots"? I noted later in your post you say the PB is "slightly more nimble". Are you getting the same depth and control with a little less work? Are you actually getting some better results? If so, which strokes are better? Can you comment on how they compare for serving? And, is the sweet spot noticeably larger? (I find that the BB11 mid's sweet spot is very good)
Thanks in advance. TourTenor

 

[NoBadMojo]

Mojo, I'll bite ... can you give us some more details on why the PB10 is slightly better on "most all of the shots"? I noted later in your post you say the PB is "slightly more nimble". Are you getting the same depth and control with a little less work? Are you actually getting some better results? If so, which strokes are better? Can you comment on how they compare for serving? And, is the sweet spot noticeably larger? (I find that the BB11 mid's sweet spot is very good)
Thanks in advance. TourTenor

sure..glad to try and help, but before i do, a thread i created in the Pro gear section of the forum has triggered an upcoming experiment with a Becker11Light I will be customizing. This is for those who wish for a 10series type racquet w. 16mains rather than the 18mains of the PB10 and B11Std and those who think you need a very heavy frame to compete at high levels. For those interested, check out the thread over there as I have a couple of Bogomolovs Prestige frames which are surprisingly light. I am going to attempt to try and get a Becker11Light to swing like the Bogomolov Prestiges

As to the PB10, by slightly better at everything but the volley, I am getting slightly better power and slightly better control on everything but the volley which lacks punch for me and I cant figure out why. my old piercing skidding backhand slice is back and the lower sw is allowing me to hit over on more backhands. I think the sweetspots are really quite similar in size and a slight edge may even go to the 11Mid. (which has a huge sweetzone for being called a midsize) The swingweight is prolly 5 points less with the PB10 so a bit more batspeed...so combine all that and know that your mileage may vary

 

[TourTenor]

As to the PB10, by slightly better at everything but the volley, I am getting slightly better power and slightly better control on everything but the volley which lacks punch for me and I cant figure out why. my old piercing skidding backhand slice is back and the lower sw is allowing me to hit over on more backhands. I think the sweetspots are really quite similar in size and a slight edge may even go to the 11Mid. (which has a huge sweetzone for being called a midsize) The swingweight is prolly 5 points less with the PB10 so a bit more batspeed...so combine all that and know that your mileage may vary

I'll check out what you are doing with the BB11 Light ... and, I appreciate the additional comparison info on the mid and the PB. What about the serves? I am not sure I could ask for anything more with the BB11 mid.8)

 

[OzNQc]

Thanks Mojo.... looks like i will wait for their reincarnation LMAO

I dont know if they will change the specs of this frame during its production run.

Your 10VEMP's are softer feeling and have a more lively stringbed than the PB10

and thanks...i am enjoying the 11Mids and am playing at a new venue where the bounces are much better

Cheers Mojo!

Appreciate the comparisons between the frames. Hopefully, I will not have to wait another 10 yrs before my 10VEMP bats get reincarnated in 1 form or another!!

Man, the double BH especially off the return of serve is so much fun to hit with the 10VEMP racquet

Peace out mate!

 

[NoBadMojo]

I was asked if I did a review of the PB10, so am reviving for anyone interested. Also did a review of the Powerbridge8 but didnt go into much detail because everyone here is too good to use a frame like that ;O

Havent hit this frame for a month or so, but can review what I posted to see if I feel differently now that the dust have settled.

I'm very happily using Becker11MPLights modified as best i could to match the specs of the Bogomolov racquets I had

 

[shiva29]

I was asked if I did a review of the PB10, so am reviving for anyone interested. Also did a review of the Powerbridge8 but didnt go into much detail because everyone here is too good to use a frame like that ;O

Havent hit this frame for a month or so, but can review what I posted to see if I feel differently now that the dust have settled.

I'm very happily using Becker11MPLights modified as best i could to match the specs of the Bogomolov racquets I had

Mojo,

why don't you play with the BB11 mp 325 ?

 

[NoBadMojo]

Mojo,

why don't you play with the BB11 mp 325 ?

I hit with it for a couple of months...it's a terrific racquet, but the swingweight was just a bit too much for me..specifically on 2nd serves.....and we;re only as good as our 2nd serves aye.....

 

[db379]

Mojo,

Have you played again with the PB10 lately? I read a poster's comments saying that the PB 10 and the BB 11 MP are quite similar. His car analogy was the PB10 is like the street version whereas the BB11 is the track version (like driving a porsche)... Is it your experience?

 

[NoBadMojo]

Mojo,

Have you played again with the PB10 lately? I read a poster's comments saying that the PB 10 and the BB 11 MP are quite similar. His car analogy was the PB10 is like the street version whereas the BB11 is the track version (like driving a porsche)... Is it your experience?

no....i have one sitting here, but havent hit it in a few months..the pb10 and b11mp differ quite a bit in performance and feel. sorry, dont understand the car analogy at all or the relevance of it

 

[seacard]

Mojo,

Have you played again with the PB10 lately? I read a poster's comments saying that the PB 10 and the BB 11 MP are quite similar. His car analogy was the PB10 is like the street version whereas the BB11 is the track version (like driving a porsche)... Is it your experience?

Mojo will probably give you a much better answer, but I recently demoed both of these racquets. The BB11 MP did not feel nearly as solid to me. It felt lighter than its weight, I had a hard time hitting a heavy ball, and it fell underpowered to me. The PB10 is a great racquet -- a little stiffer feeling, but I wouldn't call it harsh -- just crisp and solid. If you're looking for a dense pattern in a 95-100 square inch headsize, I highly recommend it.

 

[db379]

Thanks for the sharing your impressions. Can you compare the PB10 to previous Volkl 10 serie racquets in terms of stability and solidity when hitting. I haven't played any BB yet but I've played most previous 10 series. My favourite so far is the tour 10 gen1 if you've tried it. I understand the PB 10 is much stiffer than the gen1 but I was wondering if there are some similarities in terms of stability and heaviness of shot.

 

[NoBadMojo]

Mojo will probably give you a much better answer, but I recently demoed both of these racquets. The BB11 MP did not feel nearly as solid to me. It felt lighter than its weight, I had a hard time hitting a heavy ball, and it fell underpowered to me. The PB10 is a great racquet -- a little stiffer feeling, but I wouldn't call it harsh -- just crisp and solid. If you're looking for a dense pattern in a 95-100 square inch headsize, I highly recommend it.

thanks. i'd like to disagree w. your assessment. i think the B11MP std really does it all. it hits a really solid lively controllable ball with good power and you can sense the mass in the head of it more than in the P10 which makes it much more imposing from the back. it also has very easy access to spin for an 18 mains frame, but hits the type of ball as your basic ralley ball that you would buy a dense stringbed racquet for..you get both worlds. personally i think the entire Becker11 series in total is the best lineup of player type racquets ever produced. the pb10 is more of an all courting/servevolley type of frame which doesnt hold up as well from the backcourt..it's more quick and nimble than the B11. i do agree that the pb10 is crisp and solid..it's a very nice racquet

Thanks for the sharing your impressions. Can you compare the PB10 to previous Volkl 10 serie racquets in terms of stability and solidity when hitting. I haven't played any BB yet but I've played most previous 10 series. My favourite so far is the tour 10 gen1 if you've tried it. I understand the PB 10 is much stiffer than the gen1 but I was wondering if there are some similarities in terms of stability and heaviness of shot.

The PB10 comes out of the same mould as the Gen1 so that may make you feel right at home. I played the Gen1 w. trimmed bumpers for a few years. the diffs are the PB10 is easier to swing fast and you get a more precise ball feel..the Gen1 is more powerful but has a more loosey goosey type of control feel.

 

[samster]

Thanks for the sharing your impressions. Can you compare the PB10 to previous Volkl 10 serie racquets in terms of stability and solidity when hitting. I haven't played any BB yet but I've played most previous 10 series. My favourite so far is the tour 10 gen1 if you've tried it. I understand the PB 10 is much stiffer than the gen1 but I was wondering if there are some similarities in terms of stability and heaviness of shot.

You better shell out a few dollars for a demo before investing in the PB 10 (18 mains). It is a lot stiffer than the Gen1 MP (16 mains).

 

[harryz]

my new stick of choice

An old friend who is a teaching pro let me hit with his. I couldn't put it down. Two hours of hitting later, I bought two. The PB 10 is stiffer than other frames I've used in the past, but has great control, stability and feel AND is arm friendly. Best racquet I've used in many years. Reminds me a bit of the old Head Radical yellow and black that Agassi played in the mid 90s.

After using Head Prestiges and Wilson PS, nBlade, K etc... the PB 10 is most excellent. I thought that the Gamma G325 was sweet and a great sleeper, which it is; the PB 10 is in another league.

NBMJ, thanks for the review and feedback.

 

[circusmouse]

The same happened to me as to Harryz. A teaching pro suggested I try his PB10 and I beat a guy who normally gives me trouble. So I switched. I think this racquet has the potential to please a lot of people, especially those who like Prestiges. The control with this racquet is fantastic.

 

[NoBadMojo]

An old friend who is a teaching pro let me hit with his. I couldn't put it down. Two hours of hitting later, I bought two. The PB 10 is stiffer than other frames I've used in the past, but has great control, stability and feel AND is arm friendly. Best racquet I've used in many years. Reminds me a bit of the old Head Radical yellow and black that Agassi played in the mid 90s.

After using Head Prestiges and Wilson PS, nBlade, K etc... the PB 10 is most excellent. I thought that the Gamma G325 was sweet and a great sleeper, which it is; the PB 10 is in another league.

NBMJ, thanks for the review and feedback.

oh sure..glad to help, and glad you found something you like

The same happened to me as to Harryz. A teaching pro suggested I try his PB10 and I beat a guy who normally gives me trouble. So I switched. I think this racquet has the potential to please a lot of people, especially those who like Prestiges. The control with this racquet is fantastic.

Funny you should say that....i just got back from my regular Monday hit and he brought out his old Prestige masters in the 660 headsize...the weight, balance, and swingweight of the PB10 is quite a lot similar and both have 18mains. power level was similar and both have a nice firm feel. This Prestige swung quite a bit LIGHTER than his k95's

The Pb10 is a really nice effort..great for someone who wants wants a firmer feel in a very controllable stick. also as spinny as you want for people possessing good spin control, and the thing serves off the hook i feel.

 

[seanyw]

Mojo, have you tried the lighter version of PB10?
Any commentS?

 

[gymrat76]

Mojo---I have been using the dnx10 mp and like it. Where do you place the dnx10 mp in terms of power and comfort, compared to the pb10, Becker 11, and t10gen1mp?
I found the dnx10 mp to be much easier to swing than the B11. I am just curious as to why I seem to be one of the few to really like the dnx10mp---I find it quite comfortable and a bit stiffer and powerful than the t10gen1mp. It is aslo more headlight than the B11 or the t10mpgen1.
Mojo--what's wrong with the dnx10mp?

I just purchased two DNX10MP frames from an ATP tour pro and waiting to receive them. I have been suffering from too much power in my shots, my shots sailing most of the time. And I have been kind of tired to try and keep all my shots in by playing western grip..have been searching for a racquet that I can take a whack at the ball, it pops like a Magnum and still stays in..All the current racquets I have now are 16 mains frames, so I can't wait to try the first 18mains patterned frame. I do hope it will be a low powered racquet. The pro from whom I purchased was persuaded by the sponsor to switch to new frame Becker 11MP. He told me the dnx10mp and bb11mp are essentially very similar indeed. He says he feels he is playing w/ same racquet but different colors. His specs request some tinker under the leather grip. DNX10MP appears to have the second highest control rating by TW playtesters (second to 6.0 85). DNX10MP is intriguing me more than any other racquet now.

 

[NoBadMojo]

Mojo, have you tried the lighter version of PB10?
Any commentS?

havent and didnt know there was one..maybe it is for everywhere except the US? if it is also a 18mains frame, i doubt that I would be able to recommend it. you may want to try the Becker11Light

I just purchased two DNX10MP frames from an ATP tour pro and waiting to receive them. I have been suffering from too much power in my shots, my shots sailing most of the time. And I have been kind of tired to try and keep all my shots in by playing western grip..have been searching for a racquet that I can take a whack at the ball, it pops like a Magnum and still stays in..All the current racquets I have now are 16 mains frames, so I can't wait to try the first 18mains patterned frame. I do hope it will be a low powered racquet. The pro from whom I purchased was persuaded by the sponsor to switch to new frame Becker 11MP. He told me the dnx10mp and bb11mp are essentially very similar indeed. He says he feels he is playing w/ same racquet but different colors. His specs request some tinker under the leather grip. DNX10MP appears to have the second highest control rating by TW playtesters (second to 6.0 85). DNX10MP is intriguing me more than any other racquet now.

the dnx10mp is def a lower powered racquet and i dont agree that the dnx10mp and b11mp are very similar at all other than a similar weight and balance

also, before declaring your present racquet as too powerful, i hope you have considered your strings and that when many people say their racquet is too powerful, what they should be saying is that they dont have the spin technique for control..i'm not saying that is you, and i dont think you are saying what your present racquet is

 

[rush-n-crush]

PB 10 vs BB 11

Mojo,

Have you played again with the PB10 lately? I read a poster's comments saying that the PB 10 and the BB 11 MP are quite similar. His car analogy was the PB10 is like the street version whereas the BB11 is the track version (like driving a porsche)... Is it your experience?

If you drive a track version of a sports car and take it on the street, you feel every little bump and crack in the road--having to hit the john every 15 minutes, since the suspension is too hard. When they produce the street version of the car, they soften it's suspension.

The analogy is that the BB 11 is softer and less harsh; it is the street version. The PB 10 is more stable and has a harsher feel; it is the track version. It is also more solid and stable--the standard Volkl upgrade--than the DNX 10. The ball response off of the BB 11 is quicker and more explosive, whereas the PB 10's dwell time is longer--it is a slightly more precise frame.

If you are a true Volkl player, you will prefer the PB 10. If you like Volkl, but wish that it had more "pop" like a Wilson--which is the standard tour complaint for Volkl sticks--although the players revel in it's "feel"--then you will prefer the BB 11.

Lastly, the PB 10 volleys better than the BB 11, and there is no comparision to the C 10 or T 10MP Gen II, because they are old technology and are not nano frames. Nano(DNX) frames allow you to hit more shots with the same stroke production--without having to adjust your backswing--and gives the player a much larger court to hit into with more disguise.

 

[harryz]

Frustrated

I have 3 PB 10S-- two 1/2s and one 3/8. My preference is 3/8 and I have new pallets on order. All are strung with soft strings at medium tension. All hurt my right wrist, especially on forehand volleys. I'm a solid 4.5-5.0 player (5.0 when I'm in good health) and have strong technique. Yet the frame is simply too stiff. I love it, but am probably going to return to the Head MG Prestige mid. Anything ideas for reducing the jarring feeling when volleying?

 

[flynhawaiian]

where do you order the pallets from?

 

[gymrat76]

the dnx10mp is def a lower powered racquet and i dont agree that the dnx10mp and b11mp are very similar at all other than a similar weight and balance

also, before declaring your present racquet as too powerful, i hope you have considered your strings and that when many people say their racquet is too powerful, what they should be saying is that they dont have the spin technique for control..i'm not saying that is you, and i dont think you are saying what your present racquet is

Well, the present racquet is/was PDR strung at 63lbs w/Alu rough. Can't go higher than that, the racquet will be RIP. Well this racq. is known to be overly powerful. So, also played w/ an RD7 which is quite low on power index. Tried that w. timo19 at 61/58. Again, I did have too much power problems. I would like to blame my technique. However, just TODAY played with my newly-received two frames, PT630 freshly strung w/ Bab VS gut 16 (first time I tried) and BB Pro w. Gamma synthetic gut at 62. When I played with the PT630, WORLD of difference. No too much power issues (even though I could feel the gut put some extra pop on the balls) I basically loved it! Loved it. That is all I have to say. Though, BB Pro (with lots of lead at throat) was no underdog!!!

I figured where I was going wrong. I could not generate enough head speed with my previous head heavy or even balanced racquets, to keep the balls in. Now I have no issues like that. I really look forward to receiving the DNX10mp (which appears to receive no love from members here even though scoring the highest control score after ps 85, in a 98 headsize! and comparing, and stick with one stick, only.

 

[ppeter]

Mojo, have you tried the lighter version of PB10?
Any commentS?

I've got PB10 295 and it's much better then DNX10 295 and BB11 295. They did the great job with this one. It feels little heavier then DNX10 (the spec is almost the same) but this soft unique feeling and control (even if they say it's stiffer) is almost the same. The great difference is how it hits the ball, you have the feeling that the stick is going throw the ball, like with heavier bats, so the ball has more juice and is much heavier. It's much easier to keep the ball long enough and it's much easier to block the ball. I do like DNX10 295 and BB11 295, but after hitting with PB10, there is no way back to them.

 

[rush-n-crush]

PB 10 String Bed

I have 3 PB 10S-- two 1/2s and one 3/8. My preference is 3/8 and I have new pallets on order. All are strung with soft strings at medium tension. All hurt my right wrist, especially on forehand volleys. I'm a solid 4.5-5.0 player (5.0 when I'm in good health) and have strong technique. Yet the frame is simply too stiff. I love it, but am probably going to return to the Head MG Prestige mid. Anything ideas for reducing the jarring feeling when volleying?

This stick volleys really well.

Firstly, are you miss-hitting? The sweet-spot is small, but the stabilization coming from the Powerbridge gives some extra pop to the ball that the DNX 10 doesn't have--that is why it is the standard Volkl upgrade--the same, but better. Therefore, this model is less jarring to the body. If not, adjust your stringing as follows:

Firstly, drop your string tension low enough to reduce the jarring, but tight enough to keep your groundies from flying. If that doesn't work, I would suggest that since your cross and main strings are the of the same string, that you string the mains tighter than the crosses. Firstly, find a stringer that uses a constant pull machine. Secondly, try what was originally recommended by Volkl when the DNX's first came-out: 3-4 lb differential. If after play, the mains move too much, than reduce the tension on the crosses a little more; if the crosses move too much, tighten them. Obviously, you are going to waste a few string jobs as you experiment. Caution: Make sure that the SAME technician strings each string job as you experiment.​

If the string tension/format does not help, then perhaps the stick is too stiff for you.

Good Luck!

 

[ppeter]

I'm from Poland (Europa) so we've got all Voelkl/Becker racquets.

 

[harryz]

volkl pallets

The shop local to me is getting pallets from Volkl. I don't know if TW has them...

 

[cork_screw]

I don't think your instructor knows what he's talking about if he's calling the DNX10MP and the BB11MP the same frame. They serve completely different and the volleys are suppose to be a dream with that racquet. I get that too from people who don't have acquired taste in subtleties. "oh yeah, the ncode is the same as the K90, same racquet."
(shut up...)

I just purchased two DNX10MP frames from an ATP tour pro and waiting to receive them. I have been suffering from too much power in my shots, my shots sailing most of the time. And I have been kind of tired to try and keep all my shots in by playing western grip..have been searching for a racquet that I can take a whack at the ball, it pops like a Magnum and still stays in..All the current racquets I have now are 16 mains frames, so I can't wait to try the first 18mains patterned frame. I do hope it will be a low powered racquet. The pro from whom I purchased was persuaded by the sponsor to switch to new frame Becker 11MP. He told me the dnx10mp and bb11mp are essentially very similar indeed. He says he feels he is playing w/ same racquet but different colors. His specs request some tinker under the leather grip. DNX10MP appears to have the second highest control rating by TW playtesters (second to 6.0 85). DNX10MP is intriguing me more than any other racquet now.

 

[Fedster]

Hybrid set-up?

Anyone hybrid on the PB10, especially with Lux Roughs on the mains? Experiences, tensions, what crosses, etc..?

Thanks...

 

[ericsson]

I don't think your instructor knows what he's talking about if he's calling the DNX10MP and the BB11MP the same frame. They serve completely different and the volleys are suppose to be a dream with that racquet. I get that too from people who don't have acquired taste in subtleties. "oh yeah, the ncode is the same as the K90, same racquet."
(shut up...)

Second that! Two different rackets and moulds.

 

[Fedster]

I've got PB10 295 and it's much better then DNX10 295 and BB11 295. They did the great job with this one. It feels little heavier then DNX10 (the spec is almost the same) but this soft unique feeling and control (even if they say it's stiffer) is almost the same. The great difference is how it hits the ball, you have the feeling that the stick is going throw the ball, like with heavier bats, so the ball has more juice and is much heavier. It's much easier to keep the ball long enough and it's much easier to block the ball. I do like DNX10 295 and BB11 295, but after hitting with PB10, there is no way back to them.

What string(s) you using and at what tensions? What did you find that really worked for you?

 

[corners]

PB10 vs. DNX 9, 10 and K90?

How does the Power Bridge 10 compare to the DNX 9 and 10mid? I'm mostly interested in feel, but also in swing dynamics.

The TW review mentioned that the PB 10 swings really easy - more so than other racquets in the 320 swingweight range?

In headsize, stiffness and TW's power potential marks, the PB 10 seems quite similar to the DNX 9 - in fact the specs are close to what I would lead up the DNX 9 to.

Many people seemed to really like the DNX 9, but for its ball feel. Is the PB 10 a beefier DNX 9 with tighter string pattern, a little more flex and better feel?

 

[Chicken Neck]

I have tried the DNX 10 Mid, the Mid Plus, and the PB10 as well as the C10
(my current stick). As to the newer tech aspect of the frames making one better than the other, this is a non starter for me as the tech, in the case of these frames, is simply not that different. After all, you are not talking about the difference between wood and graphite here. In my tests of these racquets I found that the PB10 was too stiff for me whereas the C10 was nice and soft but with surprising pop. I did not particullarly care for the DNX 10 MP but the Mid was really a nice stick but lacked the feel of the C10. If you hit a clean ball and have decent stroke mechanics you will, I believe, find that the C10 is just about the perfect frame. The one aspect of the C10 about which some people complain is the flexibility of the upper hoop which results in a lack of power on balls struck high on the string bed. Volkl has addressed this by giving the PB10 a firmer, more responsive hoop. If you do not find this to be an issue (I don't) then the C10 is, IMO, a much more well rounded frame than the PB10.

 

[Tomek_tennis]

Hey, how would you compare PB10 to Pure Drive Roddick and Babolat Pure Storm Tour? I am looking for a racquet that is more control oriented, with medium power level?

But the most important question for me is how tiring is it. PB10 is quite heavy (for me) but it's swingweight is rather low. My current racquet weights 315g unstrung but is 5pts hl with swingweight over 330...

Why am I asking this? I started to coach and sometimes I am using my racquet up to 6 hours a day. For coaching my PDR feels just a bit to heavy (too head heavy?), but I don't like light racquets...

Currently my favourite characteristics has Pure Storm Tour. I could buy it but it has strange (dead) feeling to it...

 

[Tomek_tennis]

bump .

 

[Roms]

hello everyone,

is it possible to help me to know the power of this stick ? what could help me is to comparete just about power with nblade, mg radical mp, prestige mg pg, dunlop 200, rqis 1 tour, pure storm tour and kblade tour.

thanks a lot

 

[corners]

You can use TW University's power potential data. Power potential is a real-world measurement (called ACOR in tennis physics terms) of how much energy put into a racquet, as swingspeed and ball speed, come back out as shot speed.

Compare racquet power potentials: http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/comparepower.cgi

Compare racquet shot speeds: http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/comparespeed.cgi

Compare racquet 'sweet zone' size: http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/contours.html

Of course, these tools tell you how powerful one racquet is compared to another - provided you can swing the racquets at the same speed. Racquets with higher swingweight are more powerful, provided you can swing them as fast as a tweener or granny stick.

This tool,

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/trajectory_maker.cgi

allows you to compare shot trajectories of two racquets, either the same or different, and change each stroke parameter, i.e. swingspeed, swing angle, etc. It's interesting to see that spin is (almost) entirely dependent on swingspeed, while depth is increased by more powerful racquets (if you can swing them as fast, and if you can't you'll lose spin).

Finally, a racquet comparison tool of important specs and power potential data:

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/cgi-bin/racquetmatch.cgi

I played around with these tools a lot and found that different racquets don't make much of a difference, really. Which is why there's a demo program, and guys like the esteemed NoBadMojo who intone: "if you know your ideal swingweight..."

One interesting thing is to check out this tool,

http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/specsandspeed.html

which lays out racquet power potential and shot speed cross referenced to different specs. Swingweight is the most important to power, and the limiting factor - if it's too high for you you can't swing it as fast.

If you set up this tool for swingweight you can then go down the list and find the most powerful racquets available for a given swingweight or swingweight range. Most of the standouts are oversize frames, but there are some notable exceptions. The DNX 10 mid for example, and the DNX 9, are both disproportionately powerful, given their specs. The PB 10 is not so.

 

[Roms]

hello and thanks Corner,

I already know these tools but I think they are not so right, for exemple radical mg mp and ag 500 tour have near the same power potential !

that's why i would like that someone compare the pb 10 with the raquets I writed, to know the real power potential of the pb10.

thanks