We have been robbed of del potro

[Tennis sensation]

Raonic, Nishikori and the rest of the tour should take lessons from Del Potro on how to challenge the big 4 and even beat them.

 

[AceSalvo]

We have been robbed since 2010.

The tower of Tandil was supposed to take off in GS's after his first in 2009.

 

[SumYungGai]

Delpo could have been to the tour what McClane was to Gruber's Nakatomi job. The monkey in the wrench and whatnot.

Thanks to my recent Brooklyn 99 binge I got that reference!

Also, I completely agree.

 

[ANDYbhGENIUS]

but nerves of steel can't be taken away no matter how much surgery you have. What a beastly performance

I really liked that part. And the inverse is also true:

No matter how much you train, use hyped modern racquets, if you do not have, or develop, nerves of steel, you will choke... and again... and again....

 

[eagletennis]

Tonight showed that but for injuries del potro could well have had 8 or majors. At his best on a slow hard court he at times made Nadal and djokovic look lightweight.

Im British but would love delpo to get the gold. Only djokovic deserves it as much but delpo probably more so because of his awful injuries.

Preach...It's always cool when "what if" guys show their brilliance.

 

[MasturB]

Preach...It's always cool when "what if" guys show their brilliance.

But with Del Po we already saw him win a slam and took out 2 of the big 4 in that slam win.

It really is unfortunate with his injuries, how good he could have been. I honestly think the way he was playing, he could have beaten Murray in the final in 2013 at Wimby if he had gotten past Novak.

 

[eagletennis]

But with Del Po we already saw him win a slam and took out 2 of the big 4 in that slam win.

It really is unfortunate with his injuries, how good he could have been. I honestly think the way he was playing, he could have beaten Murray in the final in 2013 at Wimby if he had gotten past Novak.

For all of the reasons you just mentioned he is ultimate "what if" guy.I don't say its his fault injuries can happened to everyone but when you think what could have been........

 

[TennisLovaLova]

Current Delpo is the proof that the current field is weak and that's the only reason Djokovic is winning it all. Weak era.

 

[mike danny]

Ehhh... Nole was terrible at the Olympics (Del Potro still needed 2 TB's) Nadal hasn't even played for 2 MONTHS and played 9 sets in the last 24 hours with NO rest (or preparation, The guy was in the middle of rehabbing) and Del Potro needed a 3rd set TB.

Del Potro is getting a little overrated here. Hes not gonna win the Olympic gold or probably any big tourney again

2009 USO was all she wrote

Delpo has barely played any tennis since 2014. And you have the nerve to find excuses for Nadal and Nole?

Nadal is in rehab but Delpo isn't? The guy who had like what? 3 surgeries on his wrists? Face it, both Nadal and Nole should have won but yet didn't. They lost to a guy who has barely played any tennis for 2 and a half years.

 

[ABCD]

Delpo has barely played any tennis since 2014. And you have the nerve to find excuses for Nadal and Nole?

Nadal is in rehab but Delpo isn't? The guy who had like what? 3 surgeries on his wrists? Face it, both Nadal and Nole should have won but yet didn't. They lost to a guy who has barely played any tennis for 2 and a half years.

In my opinion, this is the best version of Del Potro I have ever seen. His movement has improved immensely as well as his backhand. You can find my post when I said that Del Potro will do some damage here.

 

[NatF]

Del Potro was awesome in 2009 with huge potential to improve. Because of his injuries he's spent the last 7 years either out of the game or trying to find his way back to the level he was at when he was 20 years old. He's a huge what if.

One of my favourite players so really glad to see him competing so well, hope it lasts.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

I think Delpo will win at least 2 more slams if he can stay healthy. He's one of my favourite players on the tour and I'm so excited that he's back and winning against the top players.

Liking this just to believe. It could happen, but the main thing is that I really hope it does.

Have you forgiven him for 2009?

Nothing to forgive, and there never was IMO.
I know some other fellow Fed fans feel particularly bad about that one, but any blame for that match falls squarely on Federer's unusually broad shoulders.
Delpo was and is one of the most deserving slam champions I've watched.

 

[Uncle Ebeneezer]

The match I'd like to see is peak/healthy Stanimal vs. peak/healthy Delpo. Have we ever seen that? If so, I can't remember it. DP's FH against Wawrinka's BH, both serving well...that would be an awesome combo. Unfortunately DP's injuries and Stan's mercurial swings have prevented it, as far as I know. Hat's off to DelPo for the big win. I wanted Nadal to pull it out but if he's gonna lose, I'm happy to see it be to Delpo who deserves it after all his struggles. I highly doubt DP will beat Murray but who knows.

 

[Newballs]

We could have had a Big 5 instead of a Big 4.

A legitimate big 4 perhaps...

 

[TMF]

Del Potro was never the same player when he won the USO 2009. He had multiple wrist surgeries and often missed time playing. 2014-2016 was the toughest period for him when was either sideline or playing with a discomfort left wrist which preventing from hitting his backhand. Just because he beat Nole and Nadal in Rio doesn't means that he's back in full form. A pain free Del Potro with a 100% backhand was playing at a higher level.

 

[pc1]

Any thoughts on the big singles final today?? I'm rooting for Del Potro but in a best of five I think Murray has a great chance to win.

 

[Tardigrade]

Any thoughts on the big singles final today?? I'm rooting for Del Potro but in a best of five I think Murray has a great chance to win.

Murray should get the win if he plays well.

 

[90's Clay]

Delpo has barely played any tennis since 2014. And you have the nerve to find excuses for Nadal and Nole?

Nadal is in rehab but Delpo isn't? The guy who had like what? 3 surgeries on his wrists? Face it, both Nadal and Nole should have won but yet didn't. They lost to a guy who has barely played any tennis for 2 and a half years.

Nole should have won but not Nadal.

Any thoughts on the big singles final today?? I'm rooting for Del Potro but in a best of five I think Murray has a great chance to win.

Murray straight sets. Can't see DelPo having anything left in the tank

 

[TMF]

Del Potro had a brutal match yesterday and hasn't fully recovered. It's a miracle that he still survived after 4 wrist surgeries.

 

[skip1969]

injuries are part of sport and it's a shame when it plays a major role in someone's career. who knows what might have been, but he was definitely missed by me.

 

[SumYungGai]

Murray is already making him play forever in his first service game. I can't imagine he'll have enough in a 3 of 5.

 

[ultradr]

del po is a big guy but surprisingly good atheletic ability and superb reflexes.

 

[smalahove]

As far as know, he had injuries and surgeries on both wrists.
In any case, it is what it is. If you insist, he had 2010,2011 still couldn't do much except winning couple ATP250s. We just can't know what would happen, life is not computer game.

I'm not sure how you manage to extrapolate all this from my comment ;-) ... I was just pointing out his current status, hence the use of present tense.

 

[Omega_7000]

Yeah these kids here always have urge to to exaggerate about everything.
Who knows if Depotro would win his one GS title without that rocket FH, or in the end that rocket shot costed him wrist injures.
It is what it is, it's good if he is healhty and fully healed now. None would know things that never happened.

He had three surgeries on his left wrist....His rocket forehand (played with his right hand) will not cause injuries on his left wrist....

Djokovic and Nadal were the biggest beneficiaries from DelPo's injuries. He would have taken multiple slams away from them.

 

[Omega_7000]

He's this good even without a solid two handed backhand. The 2009 Delpotro would've been number 1........In fact Federer said so himself.

 

[Noelan]

He had three surgeries on his left wrist....His rocket forehand (played with his right hand) will not cause injuries on his left wrist....

Djokovic and Nadal were the biggest beneficiaries from DelPo's injuries. He would have taken multiple slams away from them.

If you only could strip them titles. It doesn't work that way kido, but stay pressed .
Hate on Novak I can undarstand, but to say about Federers tennis owner for life that he was benefitor of Delpotro injuries speaks volume about you and your ridicoulos bias.Hahahah
Good to see your meltdown though

 

[Russeljones]

Tonight showed that but for injuries del potro could well have had 8 or majors. At his best on a slow hard court he at times made Nadal and djokovic look lightweight.

Im British but would love delpo to get the gold. Only djokovic deserves it as much but delpo probably more so because of his awful injuries.

You're dreaming. Delpo is too one-dimensional to have ever sustained the type of effort Murray has put in.

 

[Omega_7000]

If you only could strip them titles. It doesn't work that way kido, but stay pressed .
Hate on Novak I can undarstand, but to say about Federers tennis owner for life that he was benefitor of Delpotro injuries speaks volume about you and your ridicoulos bias.Hahahah
Good to see your meltdown though

When did I ever say their titles need to be stripped?

Just as ridiculous as you saying DelPotro's left wrist injuries are a result of his rocket forehands played with his right hand.

 

[tipsa...don'tlikehim!]

An exaggeration is 7-8 Slams for Delpo, as time told me, junkballers make him pay his lack of movement and footwork, he's 1,98 and he struggles a lot with low slices. However, he can zone easily and has mental strenght to win 3-4 slams. Kinda like Murray now.

Exactly my thoughts, he is never been a threat in Australia, I think the heat there bothers him. On clay I doubt he would win any slam, which leaves the US open, great surface for him and Wimbledon, but even on grass I don't think his movement is good enough.
Like you said, a maximum of 4 slams which would have been great anyway for him.

 

[NatF]

You're dreaming. Delpo is too one-dimensional to have ever sustained the type of effort Murray has put in.

Del Potro was prevented from having the opportunity to develop his game further. He's unlikely to have ever had the consistency of Murray over his career but I can see him breaking through to more majors.

 

[pc1]

I was looking at some old videos of del Potro's backhand yesterday and I forgot the pace he could hit it. Amazingly how well he did in the Olympics considering his backhand has declined so much.

Is it false memory or do I remember that he could serve with more pace also regularly?

 

[NatF]

I was looking at some old videos of del Potro's backhand yesterday and I forgot the pace he could hit it. Amazingly how well he did in the Olympics considering his backhand has declined so much.

Is it false memory or do I remember that he could serve with more pace also regularly?

What sort of pace was he getting this week? I can't find those particular stats but I can look at his serve speeds in past major matches.

 

[pc1]

What sort of pace was he getting this week? I can't find those particular stats but I can look at his serve speeds in past major matches.

They had him around 199 km which is about 124 mph or so.

 

[Noelan]

When did I ever say their titles need to be stripped?

Just as ridiculous as you saying DelPotro's left wrist injuries are a result of his rocket forehands played with his right hand.

He had injuries and surgeries on his both wrists. I didn't say left only
And sure that hard hitting can cause wrists injuries in sport like tennis ,especially with tall people who are more susceptible to bone injuries. Genetics is important factor too.
You just wrote that Nadal and Djokovic are the biggest beneficiaries from Delpotro injuries.
Djokovic always had loosing hypotheticals here due buthurtness , so its undarstandable to put him as benefitor, but to say Nadal ....
None would know what would happened but one can dream of .
In reality Delpotro is not that tough match up to either Djok or Nad. Sure they could lose some matches to him here and there, but both are still significantly better players than JMDP will ever be, they didn't needed him injured to win all they have won .

 

[xFedal]

He's this good even without a solid two handed backhand. The 2009 Delpotro would've been number 1........In fact Federer said so himself.

Not sure if he is consistent enough to be No.1..... Nadal had to play crazy good tennis in 2013 to marginally edge out Novak.....

Delpo has barely played any tennis since 2014. And you have the nerve to find excuses for Nadal and Nole?

Nadal is in rehab but Delpo isn't? The guy who had like what? 3 surgeries on his wrists? Face it, both Nadal and Nole should have won but yet didn't. They lost to a guy who has barely played any tennis for 2 and a half years.

Listen Mike, All 3 players have wrist injuries Novak, Hasn't been the same since RG.... Same with Rafa.... Delpo has recovered and was more hungrier and he beat them.... all 3 players have wrist issues.... Novak and Delpo have no backhands at the moment...

 

[NatF]

They had him around 199 km which is about 124 mph or so.

Del Potro serve speeds in the USO 2009;

Round 1

Fastest: 217
1st: 197
2nd: 151

Round 2

Fastest: 213
1st: 193
2nd: 152

Round 3

Fastest: 220
1st: 191
2nd: 156

Round 4

Fastest: 220
1st: 196
2nd: 148

Round 5

Fastest: 217
1st: 196
2nd: 144


Round 6

Fastest: 215
1st: 186
2nd: 152


Round 7

Fastest: 222
1st: 186
2nd: 146


I've looked at a few other matches and these look consistent. Serves looks to be as good as ever in terms of pace, I do think he served very well this week and at others points this year.

 

[fps]

His backhand is getting better, in that he is hitting more and more two-handers as he comes back. If he stays healthy, he has 4 years ahead of him where he could challenge at most majors.

His temperament, reading of the game, and structuring of points, are all still there too, love the way he thinks about the game and works out how to unleash maximum damage.

 

[Sartorius]

His backhand is getting better, in that he is hitting more and more two-handers as he comes back. If he stays healthy, he has 4 years ahead of him where he could challenge at most majors.

His temperament, reading of the game, and structuring of points, are all still there too, love the way he thinks about the game and works out how to unleash maximum damage.

Yes and yes, looks like he still has the right amount of nuance between managing a rally and going all out - the latter is provenly irresistible against any kind of opposition when he gets it right.

 

[cknobman]

I really hope DelPo stays healthy.

He is just such a great player, love watching this guy.

 

[fps]

You're dreaming. Delpo is too one-dimensional to have ever sustained the type of effort Murray has put in.

He's not one-dimensional. From the baseline he constructs points very deliberately, despite his backhand's return being a work in progress. He comes to net to finish points well, moves exceptionally for a big man due to his precise footwork, and the variety in his forehand is ridiculous, he has an inside-out forehand that can hit the corner of the AD service box or hit the base and sideline intersection on Deuce court, depending on what is required at that moment. He has a huge serve with a tonne of variety too.

 

[punterlad]

You're dreaming. Delpo is too one-dimensional to have ever sustained the type of effort Murray has put in.

I don't think he is at all. Great serve great returns beat forehand in the game bar Federer at his best and improving volleys he is one of the few players who can beat anyone on anything

 

[donquijote]

He would have had those titles had he taken care of himself and be more professional.
It's not just pure luck that Federer played 60 GS tournaments in a row.

 

[6august]

We never know.

M. Chang was a slam winner when he's a teenager but that'll all he could do. If he had injury after that Slam, people would have said they had been stolen a multi-Slam winner, but No.

1-2 more for DelPo sounds much more realistic than 6-8.

 

[Russeljones]

He's not one-dimensional. From the baseline he constructs points very deliberately, despite his backhand's return being a work in progress. He comes to net to finish points well, moves exceptionally for a big man due to his precise footwork, and the variety in his forehand is ridiculous, he has an inside-out forehand that can hit the corner of the AD service box or hit the base and sideline intersection on Deuce court, depending on what is required at that moment. He has a huge serve with a tonne of variety too.

I get it, he has a serve and a forehand. Seriously..