Followed by an even longer injured season. Then another clay seasonA really long season of clay.
He is better now on hard courts than grass courts, but I think he prefers grass over hard court if he were to choose one.
He is better now on hard courts than grass courts, but I think he prefers grass over hard court if he were to choose one.
Injuries. Hard is the worst surface for his knees.And why is that? Flat variant of the forehand getting a boost on grass?
He is better now on hard courts than grass courts, but I think he prefers grass over hard court if he were to choose one.
Injuries. Hard is the worst surface for his knees.
True, but the AO was on fast hard courts, Nadal is better on slow hard courts like the USO. Anyhow, the WB SF between Nadal and Djokovic was in the second week of Wimbledon, when the grass ressembles a bit clay. Nadal is vulnerable the first week of Wimbledon, but in the second week I agree he is better on grass than on fast hard courts. Not sure about slow hard courts.He is? Djokovic smoked him at the Aussies this year, while they had a marathon struggle as recently as last years Wimbledon semifinals...
True, but the AO was on fast hard courts, Nadal is better on slow hard courts like the USO. Anyhow, the WB SF between Nadal and Djokovic was in the second week of Wimbledon, when the grass ressembles a bit clay. Nadal is vulnerable the first week of Wimbledon, but in the second week I agree he is better on grass than on fast hard courts. Not sure about slow hard courts.
So in my view:
Fast hard courts >> first week on grass.
Second week on grass >> fast hard courts.
Not sure about the slow hard courts/grass comparison.
I'm more interested in discussing how his games fit the surfaces. I always assumed he would eventually do well on grass because he had that beast forehand.
Spins just don't favor him on grass vs hardcourt, he has to play significantly different from his natural style. Hence it takes a week or so till he finds his groove on grass.
Rafa would prefer to play on grass! It easy on the knees and with his game of massive topspin, he can win point easily. His serve has improve with fast serves; so much easier to get more quick points too!
That’s the perfect answer here I would say.He is similarly good in both, but in Grand Slams on hard courts he typically reaches the late rounds while at Wimbledon he has lost in the early rounds many times. He needs to reach the late rounds to be a real threat on grass, when grass plays relatively more similar to clay.
So:
Hard courts >> first week on grass.
Second week on grass >> hard courts.
RAFA is worse than Washington and Pioline?Nadal is made to look better on grass than he really is. Weak grass fields (lol) for over 19 years have allowed Hewitt, Murray (as well as Nadal) to thrive at Wimbledon.
Even Federer isn't that amazing on grass. He nearly got taken to 5 sets in 06 by Nadal, nearly lost in 07 to Nadal, then lost in 08.
Federer's nemesis on grass was a player who wouldn't even make a Wimbledon final in the 90's. Lol.
RAFA is worse than Washington and Pioline?
I didn't ask about those twoWorse than Krajicek and Goran, most definitely. There are others too.
The best I've ever seen him play on any surface is grass, specifically the Wimbledon 2008 final, but what does he think himself? I suppose there are both pros and cons on the surface to his forehand?
True, but the AO was on fast hard courts, Nadal is better on slow hard courts like the USO. Anyhow, the WB SF between Nadal and Djokovic was in the second week of Wimbledon, when the grass ressembles a bit clay. Nadal is vulnerable the first week of Wimbledon, but in the second week I agree he is better on grass than on fast hard courts. Not sure about slow hard courts.
So in my view:
Fast hard courts >> first week on grass.
Second week on grass >> fast hard courts.
Not sure about the slow hard courts/grass comparison.
Nadal prefers grass without actual grass.
Nadal is made to look better on grass than he really is. Weak grass fields (lol) for over 19 years have allowed Hewitt, Murray (as well as Nadal) to thrive at Wimbledon.
Even Federer isn't that amazing on grass. He nearly got taken to 5 sets in 06 by Nadal, nearly lost in 07 to Nadal, then lost in 08.
Federer's nemesis on grass was a player who wouldn't even make a Wimbledon final in the 90's. Lol.
Considering Nadal made FIVE Wimbledon finals, I think it's safe to say he could at least make one in the 90's. I know how important it is to come up with scenarios in which Nadal would "absolutely" fail for one's sanity, but we don't know either way.
Considering Nadal lost to Djokovic and Rosol, he ain't getting past much bigger and better servers on even faster conditions.
Clay - he dominates, straight up. Hard courts, he might make some deep runs, but no wins, grass - he gets stomped on.
We are talking about a guy, who lost to frikkin Roddick in 2008 and 2010! Roddick's worst years and Nadal's best years.
Ok and considering Djokovic lost to Querrey...... Fed to Stakhovsky.......
Agenda's are fun
We are talking about a guy, who lost to frikkin Roddick in 2008 and 2010! Roddick's worst years and Nadal's best years.
Djokovic wouldn't do well at Wimbledon either.
90's - Djokovic dominates AO, Nadal dominates FO, Sampras dominates Wimbledon, US Open is up for grabs
No agendas here.
Djokovic and Rosol in the same sentence though...Considering Nadal lost to Djokovic and Rosol, he ain't getting past much bigger and better servers on even faster conditions.
Clay - he dominates, straight up. Hard courts, he might make some deep runs, but no wins, grass - he gets stomped on.
We are talking about a guy, who lost to frikkin Roddick in 2008 and 2010! Roddick's worst years and Nadal's best years.
2008 was not Roddick's worst year. He played as well as I've ever seen him at Dubai.
I mean Safin played the best he probably ever played on grass at Wimbledon 08 but it was still a bad year for him and one of his worst.
I wouldn't say blazing fast Dubai hardcourts is a bad surface for Roddick.
Considering Nadal lost to Djokovic and Rosol, he ain't getting past much bigger and better servers on even faster conditions.
Clay - he dominates, straight up. Hard courts, he might make some deep runs, but no wins, grass - he gets stomped on.
We are talking about a guy, who lost to frikkin Roddick in 2008 and 2010! Roddick's worst years and Nadal's best years.
i think historically grass, he has been pretty vocal about how he feels about hardcourts and what they do to the body and wanting less and them. ofc i think he is the most vulnerable during 1st week wimbledon when the grass is faster/slicker etc.
I think he no longer has the movement or most of all the knee flection for Wimbledon or grass anymore. . Last year was the only decent Wimbledon he had in many years now. Which is why it is such a shame for him he missed that opportunity.
Considering Nadal made FIVE Wimbledon finals, I think it's safe to say he could at least make one in the 90's. I know how important it is to come up with scenarios in which Nadal would "absolutely" fail for one's sanity, but we don't know either way.
No, it's not safe to say.
Do you believe that?
I think he no longer has the movement or most of all the knee flection for Wimbledon or grass anymore. . Last year was the only decent Wimbledon he had in many years now. Which is why it is such a shame for him he missed that opportunity.