Who can stop Federer Express?

Seems like Federer is on top of his game at the moment. He's played a magnificent match against Ljubicic. Ljubicic's never got into the match really. I can't see anyone stopping him except perhaps...Nadal ???
 

Alexandros

Professional
I firmly believe that Federer playing his best is far superior to Nadal at his best.

However, we operate in the real world and unfortunately neither one plays their very best too often. Still, I still favour Federer over Nadal on any non-clay surface, regardless of the current conditions in the PLO and their recent match in Dubai.
 

Grigollif1

Semi-Pro
James BLake I believe that if his Forehand is on and he is moving well , he is almost unstopable. Without a doubt, he is the most Explosive player on the tour... I would love to see a final between Federer and the American.
 

Grigollif1

Semi-Pro
FromThailand, You maust be really exited by the way Paradon S. Is playing han? are you cheering for him to get to the final? I think if he keep it up he has very good chances..
 

Alexandros

Professional
James Blake's forehand is highly overrated. Most lines of thought go like "if his forehand is on" - but the thing is, James' forehand IS that explosive because he goes for it and the misses are a part of that. There's no point in factoring in improbabilities; an analogy would be saying "if Roddick's serve was going in all the time he'd be unbreakable".
 
Grigollif1 said:
FromThailand, You maust be really exited by the way Paradon S. Is playing han? are you cheering for him to get to the final? I think if he keep it up he has very good chances..
I like to watch Paradon playing of course. He's a model for young players here. But I must say that he hasn't been on top of his game lately. I don't think that he's really got a chance of winning the tournament, but if he can get back on track with his game, everybody will be glad. I miss that kind of fired up performance that he used to bring to the game.
 

Turning Pro

Hall of Fame
Alexandros said:
I firmly believe that Federer playing his best is far superior to Nadal at his best.

However, we operate in the real world and unfortunately neither one plays their very best too often. Still, I still favour Federer over Nadal on any non-clay surface, regardless of the current conditions in the PLO and their recent match in Dubai.


Nadal will not allow Fed to play at his best,period
 
Turning Pro said:
Nadal will not allowed Fed to play at his best,period
If I'm not wrong I think that Nadal's got a pretty good record against Federer hasn't he? In any case I think that between these two, it's a question of who's hot and who's not really.
 

devila

Banned
McEnroe claimed that Ljubicic was playing hot. Sure...the overrated Ljubicic stunk up but still had 15-40 and 15-30 opportunities.
 

Alexandros

Professional
Turning Pro said:
Nadal will not allowed Fed to play at his best,period

Nadal doesn't "allow" anything. It's not like Nadal seizes play and dictates Federer around the court - he just retrieves like hell and Federer gets impatient and starts spraying balls. Their matches have typically been decided more on Federer's unforced errors than Nadal's winners/forced errors.


PS. devila is a trolling moron with serious mental issues.
 

VamosRafa

Hall of Fame
Alexandros said:
Nadal doesn't "allow" anything. It's not like Nadal seizes play and dictates Federer around the court - he just retrieves like hell and Federer gets impatient and starts spraying balls. Their matches have typically been decided more on Federer's unforced errors than Nadal's winners/forced errors.

You can say that about any player Rafa plays. That's the way he wins matches.
 

Grigollif1

Semi-Pro
Alexandros said:
James Blake's forehand is highly overrated. Most lines of thought go like "if his forehand is on" - but the thing is, James' forehand IS that explosive because he goes for it and the misses are a part of that. There's no point in factoring in improbabilities; an analogy would be saying "if Roddick's serve was going in all the time he'd be unbreakable".

I understand what you are saying. It is not only Blake's forehand that is so good in my opinion. Is His fast footwork and great athleticism that allows him to get into a great position to control the court with that shot from almost any position of the court and his backhand has improved and become more consistent as well.
As far as Roddick's serve, he was dominiting with it for quite a while and was really tough to break until recently when players seems to be antecipating his delivery very well. So you could say that For the average player on tour Roddick was almost unbreakable a few years ago... Back to James Blake's forehand Like you mention it, he has the confidence to go for it and no so many players have the abilty to let their forehand loose like he does so, that is a quality of his game as well. To have the compromise, to go for it and makie more then he misses. The only thing I would like to see him get more consistant with is his return of serve, he makes a lot of unforced errors in that area../
 

Alexandros

Professional
VamosRafa said:
You can say that about any player Rafa plays. That's the way he wins matches.

Indeed, and I have no criticism about it. At the end of the day, all that matters is who wins and Nadal has shown that he can do that in spades.

What I was disagreeing with though is the person whom I quoted kind of implied that Nadal was preventing Federer from playing his game by "not allowing him" - it's the complete opposite.
 

allez

New User
I hate to say, because I am Fed fan, that the correct question should be: "who can stop the Nadal express?". If Fed can't do it, no one else can. Perhaps injury, illness, or dedication can?
 

Double K

Banned
FromThailand said:
Seems like Federer is on top of his game at the moment. He's played a magnificent match against Ljubicic. Ljubicic's never got into the match really. I can't see anyone stopping him except perhaps...Nadal ???
This is a spoiler
 

oscar_2424

Legend
FromThailand said:
Seems like Federer is on top of his game at the moment. He's played a magnificent match against Ljubicic. Ljubicic's never got into the match really. I can't see anyone stopping him except perhaps...Nadal ???

Thats easy, a guy named Rafael Nadal
 

ShcMad

Hall of Fame
I have to agree that Nadal has a chance to stop Federer, but how about Marat? I think, if he's in top form, he could have a chance. When he was playing Davydenko the other day, his 2-handed backhand was on fire! Man, have I not seen anything like that in a while... He was just pounding those groundstrokes off that wing time after time. Safin HAS to be in tip-top shape to have a chance against Fed.
 

oscar_2424

Legend
ShcMad said:
I have to agree that Nadal has a chance to stop Federer, but how about Marat? I think, if he's in top form, he could have a chance. When he was playing Davydenko the other day, his 2-handed backhand was on fire! Man, have I not seen anything like that in a while... He was just pounding those groundstrokes off that wing time after time. Safin HAS to be in tip-top shape to have a chance against Fed.
I hope you are not talking about indian wells cause he is gone!
 

superman1

Legend
Nadal and Safin are the only guys that can really damage Federer. Federer at his best can rip through Nadal, but not Safin. It's harder to get Safin on the defense.
 

arosen

Hall of Fame
As much as I love to talk about Safin's chances against Fed, Marat is far from being in the kind of form it takes to beat the top dog. Nadal is the only guy that has all the answers for Fed. I watched Nadal's win over Coria in a final of Monte Carlo, 5 hours and change, 5 sets, insane tension in a tiebreak decider. You can see why Rafa is so good. His retrieval skills are unbelievable, it's near damn impossible to come in on a guy, especially if the court is not fast. So, you have to rally with him, but everyone knows Nadal can run forever. Fed better get himself fit enough to rally till cows come home, 'cause he won't be able to finish points off fast against Rafa by coming in all the time. He can try, but he will simply relive the nightmare of Dubai final.
 

ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
I am kind of hoping Nadal gets to the finals even though i have Bags beating him.I wanna see how Fed will play him this time.He played an excellent first set then everything just went caputz, he didnt play bad but he still lost.
 

BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
If Srichaphan can keep playing the way he has been playing this week, I think he has a good shot at taking Federer down.
 

Turning Pro

Hall of Fame
To be honest,if i see them meeting in the final(Nadal,Fed),Its gonna be Fed in 4.For some reason i think that will be the outcome.
 

Galactus

Banned
Unless Federer plays like he did the the 1st set at Dubai and in the match against Ljubicic last night, Nadal will be all over him again - he's right at you right from the 1st serve of the 1st game...

However, this time around, Federer looks to have 'peaked' at just the right time.
 

fastdunn

Legend
FromThailand said:
Seems like Federer is on top of his game at the moment. He's played a magnificent match against Ljubicic. Ljubicic's never got into the match really. I can't see anyone stopping him except perhaps...Nadal ???

Apparently no one at the moment. Maybe except Nadal on clay.
I don't think Nadal can stop Federer convincingly on hard courts...
 

SAMPRAS

Semi-Pro
Sampras Is Comming

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oscar_2424

Legend
fastdunn said:
Apparently no one at the moment. Maybe except Nadal on clay.
I don't think Nadal can stop Federer convincingly on hard courts...

I didnt know that dubai was played in clay, or maybe you are gonna said federer was injured when Nadal beat him this year
 

TGV

Rookie
Fed is 1-3 vs Nadal in the last two years. 174-8 (95.6%) against all other players in the same timespan.
 

fastdunn

Legend
oscar_2424 said:
I didnt know that dubai was played in clay, or maybe you are gonna said federer was injured when Nadal beat him this year

Nope. It has been very close matches on hard courts.
Believe me. I'm not one of those crazy fans of Federer.
I have been critic of Federer on the contrary but I have
to accept that Federer is as dominating as one can be right now.....
 

arosen

Hall of Fame
Federer does not seem to be able to sustain the level of agression that it takes to blow Rafa away on hard courts. Therefore, Rafa will rain on Fed's parade plenty more times, unless Rafa gets injured or some such. With clay season almost upon us, its going to be all Rafa time all the time.
 

Docalex007

Hall of Fame
arosen said:
Federer does not seem to be able to sustain the level of agression that it takes to blow Rafa away on hard courts. Therefore, Rafa will rain on Fed's parade plenty more times, unless Rafa gets injured or some such. With clay season almost upon us, its going to be all Rafa time all the time.

I don't think so, arosen. Not this time. I believe Federer has actually gained a step or two in terms of chances of defeating Nadal on clay - despite Nadal's latest success in Dubai against Roger.

We can't deny Fed is in excellent form right now. He'll know good and well that if he faces Nadal again in RG, he'll throw everything at him - and this time be successful.

But before I say anything else...let us at least get a taste of how both players play on clay this year.
 
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