Who to model SW forehand after?
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Some will say Fed, but I agree with John Yandell who describes Fed as a hybrid grip combining elements of traditional eastern fh/sw fh in one.
As for the sw model I would recommend:
Agassi.
Mechanicallly simple, effective, powerful, versatile, etc..
Being mechanically simple without sacrificing other the other attributes makes AA's version very attractive.
As for the sw model I would recommend:
Agassi.
Mechanicallly simple, effective, powerful, versatile, etc..
Being mechanically simple without sacrificing other the other attributes makes AA's version very attractive.
GeorgeLucas
Banned
3 words: Marat Safin
RoddickistheMan
Professional
James Blakes nice and compact and really uses the trunk rather than the arm to generate power. It is also a straight arm forearm as well. Works in any situation due to its short length. Great on returns and groundstrokes. Berdych has a good forehand as well.
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Jonnyf
Hall of Fame
Blake doesn't have a straight arm and Berdych hits really flat on his forehand. I'd only recommend that for someone my height + (6'3+) otherwise it gets too awkward.
My opinion is Bagdhatis (easy stroke) agassi, safin. Theres a few more
johnny ballgame
Professional
Djokovic if you like a big takeback. Technically a very good forehand stroke.
WildVolley
Legend
How about Nalbandian? He has a good unit turn, fairly short takeback (especially compared to Gonzo), doesn't close the racquet face quite as much as Federer on the forward portion of the swing and uses a lot of windshield wiper for topspin.
Pretty good motion, I personally like Safin's motion. Extremely simple, not complicated at all. Little elbow movement, nothing that would make it hard to emulate. Tursinov is also another that I would recommend also.
johnny ballgame
Professional
I honestly haven't examined his grip closely, but it has always struck me as SW. Could be wrong.
Regardless, it is still an excellent stroke to emulate. Good shoulder turn, points racquet face to back fence on takeback, buttcap forward to the net on the swing, great rotation and follow through. Western, semi-western, either one will do fine.
Rickson
G.O.A.T.
Roddick's beginning with Federer's finish. Roddick has a good unit turn and leads with the buttcap well, but his finish is way too low. Federer has a great followthrough, but he doesn't use much of a unit turn and his arm is way too straight for a semi-western forehand so if you took the two players' forms and combined them, you'd have a great semi-western forehand.
RoddickistheMan
Professional
Whats the logic behind the straight arm forearm my coach keeps preaching that you get more power by having your arms closer to the body because you get more leverage however the best forehands on tour are straight arm forehands IE Nadal Federer verdasco(who no one mentioned as a good model), Berdych, Blake who I consider to be straight, I mean Im thinking that in order to generate pace with a straight arm you need to have a completely loose arm to make the forehand more like a swing rather than a stroke. I find that the double bend causes people to have more of a stiff forehand which requires more muscling where the straight arm seems more loose and fluid anyone kind of support what Im saying here.
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TennisAsAlways
Professional
Having a straight-arm forehand doesn't necessarily mean that the arm cannot be close to your body. If you notice some of the more modern straight-arm type of FHs, the upper arm remains close to the body much like the segmented/double-bend FHs. The only difference is that there isn't much elbow bend at all within the forward swing phase.
To simplify it, the straight arms that pros have today aren't like yesteryear's straight-arm fence gate swings.
And there is actually beneficial power with the modern straight-arm FH, since your arm is positioned behind the shot more, thereby adding leverage. Learning the stroke may be more difficult to many however, since preparation is key; you must contact the ball more out in front.
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ufgatorkid
Rookie
JHH... The way she uses her whole body is amazing.
Hi all. Thanks for the advices. Can you guys post some videos of the aforementioned pros hitting their semi-western forehand? It'll be of great help to me and the people who wants to model themselves. I cant find good vids to study on youtube. Their either too short or the quality just doesnt cut.
Thanks.
Thanks.
RoddickistheMan
Professional
Great straight arm forehand right here.
This is basically what my stroke looks like except Im right handed.
http://www.hi-techtennis.com/video_sample/index.php?movie=verdasco_forehand_001.swf&size=wide
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This is basically what my stroke looks like except Im right handed.
http://www.hi-techtennis.com/video_sample/index.php?movie=verdasco_forehand_001.swf&size=wide
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I'm happy you posted this video, my takeback is very similar to this, I just don't straighten my arm out as soon. Plus I use a T-Fight 320, and I'm left handed haha. Of course looks don't mean anything.
Jonny S&V
Hall of Fame
snoopy
Professional
Although his 1hbh is his better shot, I think Tommy Haas is a great model for a semi-western forehand. He's known for having very good technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDiNRVv_0zU&feature=related
EDIT: Upon further review, Haas may have a mild western grip. He still has good technique though. He really uses his non-hitting arm well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDiNRVv_0zU&feature=related
EDIT: Upon further review, Haas may have a mild western grip. He still has good technique though. He really uses his non-hitting arm well.
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i love berdych. favorite forehand.
i love agassi forehand as much as it is old, it still kicks ass for now.
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lordmanji
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Although his 1hbh is his better shot, I think Tommy Haas is a great model for a semi-western forehand. He's known for having very good technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDiNRVv_0zU&feature=related
EDIT: Upon further review, Haas may have a mild western grip. He still has good technique though. He really uses his non-hitting arm well.
i say this as a man completely comfortable with his heterosexuality. but omg what a body!
stormholloway
Legend
Yes but it's very close to SW, and the same principles apply.
Federer has the best forehand to emulate. Sure it's slightly more eastern, but it's THE forehand.
Verdasco's looks very good too.
Simple FHs
The OP is looking for a forhand to imitate. So I would recommend one that is simple. Fed, Roddick, Nadal and Djokovic all have fairly complex FH technique IMO.
I would recommend Blake or Ferrer. Both have very simple technique, both use the body turn very well and both have few moving parts which results in very high consistency.
JMHO.
The OP is looking for a forhand to imitate. So I would recommend one that is simple. Fed, Roddick, Nadal and Djokovic all have fairly complex FH technique IMO.
I would recommend Blake or Ferrer. Both have very simple technique, both use the body turn very well and both have few moving parts which results in very high consistency.
JMHO.
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downdaline
Professional
Im with Blake actually, i saw a slow mo of his and its very textbook. Very good example of the modern forehand and looks very "human", unlike the godlike whip of Fed's.
Agassi's forehand is good only if u have the upper body strength to support it, bcos of his compact swing and short takeback.
Agassi's forehand is good only if u have the upper body strength to support it, bcos of his compact swing and short takeback.
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