Bc it's an amazing tournament
Don't you think both IW and Miami are tournaments that should be scrapped? I mean both tournaments lead to..the CLAY season? Seems pointless to me, might as well start with MC after maybe a couple 500s like Dubai and Rio or whatever?
The French Open is pretty far off and there are already plenty of warm up events for it on clay. I don't see any problem with having Miami and Indian Wells on hard courts in March.
Sure. Why not move up the French Open and include a grass MS for Wimby OR just let this period b/w AO and MC serve as a rest period?
Why does Indian Wells have the same number of rounds as a grand slam and the other masters have 1 less?
Sure. Why not move up the French Open and include a grass MS for Wimby OR just let this period b/w AO and MC serve as a rest period?
Don't you think both IW and Miami are tournaments that should be scrapped? I mean both tournaments lead to..the CLAY season? Seems pointless to me, might as well start with MC after maybe a couple 500s like Dubai and Rio or whatever?
Why don't we just scrap all the clay court tournaments. They aren't real tournaments anyways. This ridiculous statement is a ridiculous as yours. Only difference is I know mine is.
You have got to be being sarcastic here
Actually I wasn't but why is IW and Miami so irreplaceable. :roll:
What do you mean why? Replace them with what? They are the two highest paying tournaments outside the slams. What do you want to replace them with?
They shouldn't be scraped. The WTF is Worthless Tennis Fanfare, however, and should be abolished ASAP.Don't you think both IW and Miami are tournaments that should be scrapped? I mean both tournaments lead to..the CLAY season? Seems pointless to me, might as well start with MC after maybe a couple 500s like Dubai and Rio or whatever?
For me M1000 are tuneups for slams and nothing more. So that's why I want them gone, they add nothing of value to any of the slams. Just two MS tournaments just stuck in the schedule for no real purpose. Either trash them both and have no replacements to give the players rest OR replace them with a grass MS which I'd prescribed in my earlier post.
In short, what are two M1000 HC tournaments doing after the AO and BEFORE the clay season? What purpose do they serve besides ATP points?
I've always found the timing of IW and Miami to be gash, and it's also my least favourite part of the season.
I'd be more excited about them if the tennis calendar was rearranged so that they came before the Australian Open.
But it wont ever happen. The worst part of the season is after wimby when players go around playing weird clay tournaments in europe during the hardcourt season.
True, there is that part of the season, but I prefer the 1000's there as they lead up to the US Open more logically. Tennis does feel dead for a while though after Wimbledon just as it does after the AO, which is why in my dreams the calendar would be somewhat rearranged.
You cant play IW or Miami prior to Aussie. The weather would suck. You would have to move the Aussie. And we know that is not going to happen ever.
I've always found the timing of IW and Miami to be gash, and it's also my least favourite part of the season.
I'd be more excited about them if the tennis calendar was rearranged so that they came before the Australian Open.
Yea my thoughts exactly. If a lower ranked player wins it like say Dolgo or Gasquet or Tsonga then you feel like OK that was cool,nice to a see a young player win a MS. But if say Fed or Nole win it then you feel like "Ok they won but now what? It's the clay season now so who cares". Just feels abrupt and out of place for the slam contenders imo.
For me M1000 are tuneups for slams and nothing more. So that's why I want them gone, they add nothing of value to any of the slams. Just two MS tournaments just stuck in the schedule for no real purpose. Either trash them both and have no replacements to give the players rest OR replace them with a grass MS which I'd prescribed in my earlier post.
In short, what are two M1000 HC tournaments doing after the AO and BEFORE the clay season? What purpose do they serve besides ATP points?
You cant play IW or Miami prior to Aussie. The weather would suck.
The weather is great in the winter in Indian Wells. I'm pretty sure Miami is great in the winter as well. What are you talking about?
I would say IW and Miami are the two most prestigious Masters 1000 tournaments
and certainly above that Elite Exibitionary Event at the end of the year
They shouldn't be scraped. The WTF is Worthless Tennis Fanfare, however, and should be abolished ASAP.
Especially Miami. Never winning the true fifth slam in terrible in a player resume.
way off, used to be...clearly IW has passed it and all the talk about a fifth major is with IW...talk actually has moved on to IW having the U.S. Open (Wertheim wrote about that today)
there is talk about making Miami a clay event now to distinguish it from IW
average trolling btw
The IW court plays as slow as clay anyways.
For me M1000 are tuneups for slams and nothing more. So that's why I want them gone, they add nothing of value to any of the slams.
FoD, you have a banned next to your name, but can still post? What happened this time? And can you actually post while on a ban?
Don't you think both IW and Miami are tournaments that should be scrapped? I mean both tournaments lead to..the CLAY season? Seems pointless to me, might as well start with MC after maybe a couple 500s like Dubai and Rio or whatever?
Ideally, they would be lead up Masters to the Australian Open. And, with the often soaring temps in the Australian summer, the AO could stand to be played, in terms of weather, in March. So, have IW and Miami during February and then the AO. Though, moving IW and Miami earlier, it might be better to have Miami first in terms of warm weather.
But, I doubt the AO would ever change the date. Taking place in the Australian summer with students out of school and people on vacation probably really benefits the tournament.
That said, I think they're fine as stand alone tournaments. There's enough time after they're finished to have a full clay season leading up to the FO.
I think they're fine where they are, puts tennis on television in the few months between the Australian and French. However, if they were to be moved, I guess it would make the most sense to add them to the lead up to the US Open, although that period is pretty loaded as it is.
Ummm the average night temp in Indian wells is 45 degrees in january. Thats the average meaning it gets below freezing alot. No one wants to sit and watch or play in that.
The average low is 45 degrees and the average high is 72 degrees in January and it usually nice and sunny. If you consider that bad weather, then I do not know what to say to you.
If the average low is 45 then that means there are nights when it is below freezing. No one is going to watch that. The play night matches the whole tourney. Have you ever been in the desert at night in the winter? It aint tennis watching weather dude.