Will Nole breaks Roger's 302 weeks at #1 ?

[blablavla]

Federer will become their GOAT then since he is always undefeated in hypothetical/virtual matches.

And I thought that Novak is the king of the virtual DCGS...

 

[Adv. Edberg]

Most likely Djoko will break 400 weeks within 3 years.

 

[demrle]

In 2100 there will be a new sensation sport called virtual tennis and fans will despise the old tennis.

Kyrgios will dominate

 

[Phoenix1983]

By the way, the record that Federer still owns and that Djokovic will quite possibly surpass in a few months, is only from the Open Era.
There are 4 tennis players in the history of tennis who reached more than 310 weeks as number 1 and, therefore, managed to be in that position for longer than the Swiss.
If the Serbian finally reaches week 311 as number 1, it will be cause for applause, praise and admiration from all but he will not have broken the historical record that is held by Bill Tilden (368 weeks weeks as number 1).

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

 

[Hitman]

Novak as it stands is looking to put up some serious numbers here, though I do think he is going to worry less and less about the number one ranking once he gets that record, to basically focus on the slams even if that means dropping events and points with it.

Personally, I think he should aim for that 7th year ending world number one next year to break the tie with Pete. If he gets it, it will be a very long time before we see someone come along and get 8 year ending number ones.

 

[demrle]

Thanks so much for not answering the question. What Fed fans are "in denial" about Nole passing Roger in March? I ask this and there's never one single response. Because there's none of this going on here, it's simple mendacity from the Novak crowd. They want the Fed fans to be in tatters when it simply isn't happening.

Fed fans weren't "in denial" when Rafa tied Fed and they're not in denial about March, 2021 and the weeks at #1 record falling.

Here's denial if I ever saw one:

The weeks record is nice to have. It will always be in question a little though no matter what I post or someone else posts. It's pretty much guaranteed that Djokovic can do whatever he wants including take a vacation. I'm not losing sleep over it. He doesn't have the slams and Nadal doesn't have the weeks or YEC or well, a lot of things LOL. Do I think Covid has helped Djokovic here? Yes I do. Am I going to post about it every single day how it did? No. Only when someone acts like it was a regular season and nothing unusual like a pandemic happened. I only ask for fairness when evaluating the achievement. Federer was there first, therefore Djokovic has a target etc. Another words surpassing Fed's #1 numbers doesn't mean much in the big picture. Fed will still be the lone member of the 300/20 club.

Credit to PeoplesChamp though for having the cojones to say all this straightforward and face the music. Many others just popping up here and there hinting at this stuff.

 

[demrle]

It will always be in question a little though no matter what I post or someone else posts.

You don't really believe this yourself, Peoples. Anyway, it's not true, you'll se in a couple of months.

Do I think Covid has helped Djokovic here? Yes I do. Am I going to post about it every single day how it did? No. Only when someone acts like it was a regular season and nothing unusual like a pandemic happened. I only ask for fairness when evaluating the achievement.

Here's fair evaluation. Djokovic should have broken the record on October 5, 2020. Had Covid not happened Djokovic would have had a chance of anywhere between 1.74 and 2.21% of loosing the #1 between march and october (I'm being generous here). So you should be happy as a Fed fan instead of trying to spin it.

 

[Phoenix1983]

Novak as it stands is looking to put up some serious numbers here, though I do think he is going to worry less and less about the number one ranking once he gets that record, to basically focus on the slams even if that means dropping events and points with it.

Personally, I think he should aim for that 7th year ending world number one next year to break the tie with Pete. If he gets it, it will be a very long time before we see someone come along and get 8 year ending number ones.

He's given up on winning the slam race (the most important stat in tennis) now, which is why he's focusing all his energy on weeks at No 1.

 

[Hitman]

He's given up on winning the slam race (the most important stat in tennis) now, which is why he's focusing all his energy on weeks at No 1.

Oh did he mention that, please provide the link. Thanks.

If the goal of getting to weeks at no 1 is finally within grasp, and looks the more attainable goal at the moment, then aiming for it and getting that in the bag is the right thing to do. He has always said that he wasn't just targeting the slam record, he wants the weeks at number one and year ending record also.

 

[Sabratha]

Foregone conclusion now.

 

[itrium84]

Interesting graphic, logic would say he comes up short, but I think it's more likely he breaks weeks at #1 than Feds 17 slams.

He did break Feds 17 slams first, but you were close.

 

[CYGS]

I've seen a few posters strongly stated that Nole will break Roger's 302 weeks at #1. When comparing his career trend with the other big 4, the realistic chances of him breaking the record is not that good. Nole is playing catch up since he started out late in his career. Currently Nole is 28.5 years old sitting on 172 weeks. Assuming that he doesn't loses his #1 ranking for another 1.5 years or by the time he's 30, he will accumulate 78 more weeks. That would give him a total of 250 weeks and is still behind the other big 4. Connors managed to gain 17 weeks after his 30th birthday, Lendl 25 weeks, Sampras 0 weeks, and Federer 17 weeks. For Nole to break Federer's record, he would have to gain 53 weeks in his 30s to break the record. This has to account for Nole not losing his #1 ranking from now on.

The hypocrisy - thought all that matters is who reached 300 first?

Pathetic.

 

[daphne]

I've seen a few posters strongly stated that Nole will break Roger's 302 weeks at #1. When comparing his career trend with the other big 4, the realistic chances of him breaking the record is not that good. Nole is playing catch up since he started out late in his career. Currently Nole is 28.5 years old sitting on 172 weeks. Assuming that he doesn't loses his #1 ranking for another 1.5 years or by the time he's 30, he will accumulate 78 more weeks. That would give him a total of 250 weeks and is still behind the other big 4. Connors managed to gain 17 weeks after his 30th birthday, Lendl 25 weeks, Sampras 0 weeks, and Federer 17 weeks. For Nole to break Federer's record, he would have to gain 53 weeks in his 30s to break the record. This has to account for Nole not losing his #1 ranking from now on.

Oops!

 

[daphne]

The only chances for Nole to match the weeks at #1 record is when the global pandemic is finally over after we have the vaccine.

As of now, the real record is still held by Roger Federer.

After so many bad predictions you have no authority to state anything on any tennis matter whatsoever. If I were wrong so many times I'd shut up. Yet you yourself dare to try to determine what's what in tennis. Let me

 

[CYGS]

After so many bad predictions you have no authority to state anything on any tennis matter whatsoever. If I were wrong so many times I'd shut up. Yet you yourself dare to try to determine what's what in tennis. Let me

That’s true this poster is well-known for being ignorant about tennis.

 

[daphne]

That’s true this poster is well-known for being ignorant about tennis.

Yep and he cannot say a damn thing about it in his defence! Why? Well because the OP was written in 2015 and the following one that I replied to was written in 2020. So in 5 years the kiddo has not learned a thing yet he feels he needs to explain something with authority and credibility to someone . Imagine you turn up at Yale and a guy that has not completed primary education is standing there giving everyone a lecture!!!

 

[Milanez82]

Yep and he cannot say a damn thing about it in his defence! Why? Well because the OP was written in 2015 and the following one that I replied to was written in 2020. So in 5 years the kiddo has not learned a thing yet he feels he needs to explain something with authority and credibility to someone . Imagine you turn up at Yale and a guy that has not completed primary education is standing there giving everyone a lecture!!!

He sounds more like childcare level though
You are wasting your time and dumbing yourself down arguing.

 

[mavsman149]

He did break Feds 17 slams first, but you were close.

I'm a Djokovic fan, it exciting to see. At least I was right about him being more likely to break Fed's weeks record than slam record, even if the goalposts for slams moved up a bit. Funny to see predictions from 5.5 years ago.

 

[Tarkovsky]

I've seen a few posters strongly stated that Nole will break Roger's 302 weeks at #1. When comparing his career trend with the other big 4, the realistic chances of him breaking the record is not that good. Nole is playing catch up since he started out late in his career. Currently Nole is 28.5 years old sitting on 172 weeks. Assuming that he doesn't loses his #1 ranking for another 1.5 years or by the time he's 30, he will accumulate 78 more weeks. That would give him a total of 250 weeks and is still behind the other big 4. Connors managed to gain 17 weeks after his 30th birthday, Lendl 25 weeks, Sampras 0 weeks, and Federer 17 weeks. For Nole to break Federer's record, he would have to gain 53 weeks in his 30s to break the record. This has to account for Nole not losing his #1 ranking from now on.

I think this was your original graph:

It would be nice if you or someone else can update it...

 

[beast of mallorca]

I've seen a few posters strongly stated that Nole will break Roger's 302 weeks at #1. When comparing his career trend with the other big 4, the realistic chances of him breaking the record is not that good. Nole is playing catch up since he started out late in his career. Currently Nole is 28.5 years old sitting on 172 weeks. Assuming that he doesn't loses his #1 ranking for another 1.5 years or by the time he's 30, he will accumulate 78 more weeks. That would give him a total of 250 weeks and is still behind the other big 4. Connors managed to gain 17 weeks after his 30th birthday, Lendl 25 weeks, Sampras 0 weeks, and Federer 17 weeks. For Nole to break Federer's record, he would have to gain 53 weeks in his 30s to break the record. This has to account for Nole not losing his #1 ranking from now on.

That blew up in your **** face.
Sweet

 

[Tarkovsky]

I've roughly updated the weeks at No1 graph, putting Djokovic at 319 as someone said that's guaranteed for now...the broken bit are the 22 "frozen weeks" in 2020... sorry for the imperfections

 

[Tony48]

I will vote yes. If I'm right, what do I win?

 

[Hitman]

wow....and here we are, where Djokovic is actively adding even more weeks to his record breaking run as the heavyweight champion of the world.

 

[Backspin1183]

I justed voted no. Djokovic isn't a legend and will never break Federer's record 302 weeks at number 1 ranking.

Djokovic doesn't even have 21 Slams!

 

[daphne]

It's quite interesting to see who voted NO and realise how their prognosis is ALWAYS objective when Djok is concerned. So, in the future, whatever they say think the opposite and you will know you are right!

 

[D.Nalby12]

Thanks to vacuum era he finally has got past it. At age of 33-34 when Fed had to battle with Peak 2015 Djokovic - otoh Djokovic has got chumps like Zverev, Medvedev and Sisipas to deal with. That's why he has managed to stay at top for extended time in his thirties. Federer couldn't do it as he always had younger Nadal/Djokovic outperforming him.

 

[CYGS]

Thanks to vacuum era he finally has got past it. At age of 33-34 when Fed had to battle with Peak 2015 Djokovic - otoh Djokovic has got chumps like Zverev, Medvedev and Sisipas to deal with. That's why he has managed to stay at top for extended time in his thirties. Federer couldn't do it as he always had younger Nadal/Djokovic outperforming him.

The majority of Fed’s weeks as number 1 were accumulated during the weakest era of 2003-2007, so your statement, even if true, counts very little.

 

[beard]

Thanks to vacuum era he finally has got past it. At age of 33-34 when Fed had to battle with Peak 2015 Djokovic - otoh Djokovic has got chumps like Zverev, Medvedev and Sisipas to deal with. That's why he has managed to stay at top for extended time in his thirties. Federer couldn't do it as he always had younger Nadal/Djokovic outperforming him.

Salt is corrosive substance... Be careful...

 

[Rovesciarete]

Thanks for the graph and congrats to the Djoker!

 

[Sudacafan]

Votes yes and no are still admitted?

 

[duaneeo]

Thanks to vacuum era he finally has got past it. At age of 33-34 when Fed had to battle with Peak 2015 Djokovic - otoh Djokovic has got chumps like Zverev, Medvedev and Sisipas to deal with. That's why he has managed to stay at top for extended time in his thirties.

Yep. The poll was taken at the end of 2015. The first generation of NextGens (Nishikori, Dimitrov, Raonic, Tomic, Sock, Goffin, Janowicz) had all mugged out, but many were optimistic about the second generation (Thiem, Kyrgios, Chung, Medvedev, Zverev, Rublev, Tsitsipas). Who thought we'd have back-to-back LostGens? Now, we wait and see what comes of the third generation (Shapovalov, FAA, Sinner...).

 

[TMF]

The crappy back-to-back NextGens were shocking and so is the outbreak of covid-19 that ruined the sport.

Records are not easy to break but you need a lot of luck. Djokovic got everything going his way !

 

[Biotic]

 

[Milanez82]

The crappy back-to-back NextGens were shocking and so is the outbreak of covid-19 that ruined the sport.

Records are not easy to break but you need a lot of luck. Djokovic got everything going his way !

Covid took away 22 weeks from his record book.
Live with it.

 

[terribleIVAN]

He's too old to break it.

 

[TMF]

Covid took away 22 weeks from his record book.
Live with it.

The lack of depth and strength of the competition due to players canceled their schedule. No spectators cheering means little intensity, focus, grit and motivation. All kind of competitive sport are hammered with players inability to perform at the highest level, let alone a depleted field.

 

[Biotic]

The lack of depth and strength of the competition due to players canceled their schedule. No spectators cheering means little intensity, focus, grit and motivation. All kind of competitive sport are hammered with players inability to perform at the highest level, let alone a depleted field.

Did you consider filing a complaint? ATP will surely evaluate the facts and decide whether to accept the case for investigation...You never know... If you whine as much as you do here, they might even take few more weeks away from Djokovic.

 

[swordtennis]

The lack of depth and strength of the competition due to players canceled their schedule. No spectators cheering means little intensity, focus, grit and motivation. All kind of competitive sport are hammered with players inability to perform at the highest level, let alone a depleted field.

 

[Villain]

The lack of depth and strength of the competition due to players canceled their schedule. No spectators cheering means little intensity, focus, grit and motivation. All kind of competitive sport are hammered with players inability to perform at the highest level, let alone a depleted field.

He would’ve blown through the record pandemic or not. It was inevitable. Novak is:

 

[Tony48]

The lack of depth and strength of the competition due to players canceled their schedule. No spectators cheering means little intensity, focus, grit and motivation. All kind of competitive sport are hammered with players inability to perform at the highest level, let alone a depleted field.

If this is a serious post, it’s really stupid.

“Little intensity, focus, grit and motivation.” Have you turned on a TV in the past year?

 

[Deleted member 771911]

I think early 2018 this seemed out of the question.

 

[TMF]

If this is a serious post, it’s really stupid.

“Little intensity, focus, grit and motivation.” Have you turned on a TV in the past year?

Do some google search.

 

[Tony48]

Do some google search.

I don't have to. You are the only one making these claims.

Who else has said that players are lacking focus, grit, and motivation? No one.

 

[Hitman]

wow....and here we are, where Djokovic is actively adding even more weeks to his record breaking run as the heavyweight champion of the world.

And three years later.....

What the heck....

He's still the heavyweight champion....

 

[Hitman]

He's given up on winning the slam race (the most important stat in tennis) now, which is why he's focusing all his energy on weeks at No 1.

Imagine that.

 

[Jonesy]

At this point Noleovic world record at the top can only be compared with stick and stone players that ruled the stone age for several years around their region.