Wimbledon’s ridiculous roof policy

[Incognito]

Butt hurt Nadal fans have been preaching this on other message boards.

Also ironic that a VB advocate is telling me to "use my brain".

Keep those insults coming. I know you're annoyed your man didn't convert his set points.

I’m a Nadal fan as well but It’s not about Nadal. I already said 2 days ago that Rafa will not beat djokovic but that If Isner makes the final he will beat Novak.

It’s this rule that is IMO questionable.

 

[SQA333]

I’m a Nadal fan as well but It’s not about Nadal. I already said 2 days ago that Rafa will not beat djokovic but that If Isner makes the final he will beat Novak.

It’s this rule that is IMO questionable.

Whatever your opinion, the rule won't change and they will resume under the roof. Rafa still has a great chance to come back and win this in 5, so I'd save the complaints about this rule for until he actually loses.

 

[Deon Sanders]

What's with the sensible man act now?

Most of your posts here consist of hating a player and talking drivel about a certain surface. Please.

Only fact based discussion on that front

 

[Incognito]

Whatever your opinion, the rule won't change and they will resume under the roof. Rafa still has a great chance to come back and win this in 5, so I'd save the complaints about this rule for until he actually loses.

I know it will not change. Doesn’t mean we cannot discuss it with an open mind though.

On the match: I don’t think Rafa will come back. Novak will play even more freely tomorrow while Rafa will be nervous as hell.

 

[Deleted member 754093]

I know it will not change. Doesn’t mean we cannot discuss it with an open mind though.

On the match: I don’t think Rafa will come back. Novak will play even more freely tomorrow while Rafa will be nervous as hell.

Agree that Djokovic will come out during due to the extra rest. I also think he’ll see that going to Nadal’s forehand on a weak ball was killing him and focus on pummeling the backhand more, like he did later in the tiebreak

 

[WhiskeyEE]

It's not even about tradition. It's about ending the match under the same conditions as when it began. Not an upset Bull fan are you?

The policy is a bit ironic considering the tournament itself doesn't end under the same conditions as it began.

 

[Incognito]

Agree that Djokovic will come out during due to the extra rest. I also think he’ll see that going to Nadal’s forehand on a weak ball was killing him and focus on pummeling the backhand more, like he did later in the tiebreak

I’d be surprised to goes to a 5th. Who knows though, Rafa surprised me today when he won that 2nd set.

 

[zagor]

Wimbledon's bounce is ridiculous. Roof evens things out a bit.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Wimbledon's bounce is ridiculous. Roof evens things out a bit.

It actually played at a decent pace, and we got some great tennis out of both.

 

[SQA333]

Wimbledon's bounce is ridiculous. Roof evens things out a bit.

The fact that we have hard court events with a higher Court Pace Index than Wimbledon's centre court says it all.

 

[zagor]

The fact that we have hard court events with a higher Court Pace Index than Wimbledon's centre court says it all.

It's the bounce that is the main issue. A mythical creature like Isner would never reach SF on old-school grass to gives us a 50 games fifth set.

 

[reaper]

It's the bounce that is the main issue. A mythical creature like Isner would never reach SF on old-school grass to gives us a 50 games fifth set.

I don't know...he's a Masters winner this year and his serve is deadly on a quick surface...I would think.

 

[reaper]

Wimbledon's bounce is ridiculous. Roof evens things out a bit.

The bounce is probably a function of the weather rather than court preparation.

 

[Incognito]

The bounce is probably a function of the weather rather than court preparation.

The weather has been extremely hot last week. Does that help?

 

[zagor]

I don't know...he's a Masters winner this year and his serve is deadly on a quick surface...I would think.

He's a masters winner at Miami, one of the slowest and highest bouncing court around. Even with all the improvements in his game if the ball stayed low I don't see him being few games away from a Wimbledon final.

The bounce is probably a function of the weather rather than court preparation.

I agree which is why I said the roof was the good equalizer.

 

[SQA333]

It's the bounce that is the main issue. A mythical creature like Isner would never reach SF on old-school grass to gives us a 50 games fifth set.

I don't know...he's a Masters winner this year and his serve is deadly on a quick surface...I would think.

Isner has a quick but more-importantly a very spin-based serve (his kicker is among the very best in the business). That's why he can hold his own on a slower hard court (and even clay) but has historically never really done well at Wimbledon until this year, where the conditions are hotter and the balls are bouncing higher than ever.

 

[reaper]

Isner has a quick but more-importantly a very spin-based serve (his kicker is among the very best in the business). That's why he can hold his own on a slower hard court (and even clay) but has historically never really done well at Wimbledon until this year, where the conditions are hotter and the balls are bouncing higher than ever.

They changed the grass in 2001 so Isner never played on the low faster grass of an earlier era. Would be interesting to see if the lower bounce was offset by the faster speed.

 

[zagor]

They changed the grass in 2001 so Isner never played on the low faster grass of an earlier era. Would be interesting to see if the lower bounce was offset by the faster speed.

There were no giraffes and 6+ hour grass matches during the 90s Wimbledon (even when the matches went the distance like the 1998 Goran-Krajicek SF). Low bounce is a killer for such tall guys.

 

[reaper]

There were no giraffes and 6+ hour grass matches during the 90s Wimbledon (even when the matches went the distance like the 1998 Goran-Krajicek SF). Low bounce is a killer for such tall guys.

Yes, but were there any giraffes on the tour? I can't think of any such tall players from that era playing anywhere.

 

[zagor]

Isner has a quick but more-importantly a very spin-based serve (his kicker is among the very best in the business). That's why he can hold his own on a slower hard court (and even clay) but has historically never really done well at Wimbledon until this year, where the conditions are hotter and the balls are bouncing higher than ever.

Yep, there's a reason Isner's performance at the FO was better than Wimbledon up until this year. The kick he can get with that serve when the surface allows it is ridiculous and mainly the function of his abnormal height for a tennis pro.

Remember how Rafter claimed he was better on HC than grass/Wimbledon because his kick serve was more effective?

 

[zagor]

Yes, but were there any giraffes on the tour? I can't think of any such tall players from that era playing anywhere.

Fair point, I can't either. However as I said, I think even lower bounce than today would simply not allow them to contend at Wimbledon. Before abnormally hot weather this year, Isner never got past the 3d round at WImbledon. Of course he also improved his game but not sure he did it to such a degree (I mean he reached masters finals before, he just wasn't facing mighty Zverev in them).

 

[Rafa.the.Magnificent]

Nadal played great with the roof closed today and I expect the same tomorrow. No complaints here.

 

[Mainad]

Nadal played great with the roof closed today and I expect the same tomorrow. No complaints here.

Both of them may play even better in the fresh open air as they should be doing (so long as the weather permits).

 

[GOATzilla]

It will resume Saturday at 1 p.m. local time (8 a.m. ET), ahead of the women's final between Serena Williams and Angelique Kerber. That final will not start before 2 p.m. local time (9 a.m. ET).The Djokovic-Nadal match will resume with the roof closed, a decision that was left to the players to agree upon. The All England Club confirmed that decision had been made late Friday. The women's final, however, will take place with the roof open unless weather intervenes and requires it to be closed. No rain is forecast for the area on Saturday.

So they’ll close the roof for this semi, but open it for women’s final right after. What an absolutely ret*rded rule. GTFO

 

[Rafa24]

I know it will not change. Doesn’t mean we cannot discuss it with an open mind though.

On the match: I don’t think Rafa will come back. Novak will play even more freely tomorrow while Rafa will be nervous as hell.

Agree. I don't think Rafa will win. Novak will be playing free and big. Rafa is always nervous until he gets a break or a set lead. If he gets broke fast its game set match. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Rafa24]

Both of them may play even better in the fresh open air as they should be doing (so long as the weather permits).

Yeah it should be outside...

So they’ll close the roof for this semi, but open it for women’s final right after. What an absolutely ret*rded rule. GTFO

catering to fed even after he is out.....

 

[ohiostate124]

So many salty Rafa fans. Terrified of a roof.

 

[Liam]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand why it's soooo awful that Rafa doesn't get to play on an open court. Three sets are done. Only two more to go. We're talking only two sets left, so being in the sun and worrying about stamina and fitness really doesn't matter at all. Well, unless the 5th set goes to 70-68....

 

[VaporDude95]

So many salty Rafa fans. Terrified of a roof.

I know. It is delicious to watch the VB rage unfold muahahaha

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Fed hating OP continues hating.
Too bad, sucker!

I guarantee I like Nadal more than you losers like Federer. Can't lose, no?

 

[Rafa24]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand why it's soooo awful that Rafa doesn't get to play on an open court. Three sets are done. Only two more to go. We're talking only two sets left, so being in the sun and worrying about stamina and fitness really doesn't matter at all. Well, unless the 5th set goes to 70-68....

Ball doesn't bounce as high in the cool conditions with the roof closed so it negates his massive top spin to a degree. Also he handles heat better than djoker. And it's an outdoor tournament so play it outdoors.

 

[Deleted member 754093]

Ball doesn't bounce as high in the cool conditions with the roof closed so it negates his massive top spin to a degree. Also he handles heat better than djoker. And it's an outdoor tournament so play it outdoors.

At 8 am tomorrow in London it will be 65 degrees. With the roof closed, I doubt it would be any lower

You can’t blame a roof for a loss. PETE would never do that. Grasping at straws like a MUGfan

Rules are rules. Life’s not out to get your favorite player.

 

[Rafa24]

At 8 am tomorrow in London it will be 65 degrees. With the roof closed, I doubt it would be any lower

You can’t blame a roof for a loss. PETE would never do that. Grasping at straws like a MUGfan

Rules are rules. Life’s not out to get your favorite player.

The match is 8am eastern time. Not london. lmao. Match is 1pm london. Legit lol at you thinking they would play a match at 8am.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

I know. It is delicious to watch the VB rage unfold muahahaha

This on Twitter:

Luca Terzi (@LucaRafa3) Tweeted:
@Wimbledon This is an unbelievable decision, if I were you I would be terribly ashamed. You have basically destroyed Rafa's tournament and now you schedule the match under the roof. This is unacceptable. You really disappointed many, think about it. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. https://twitter.com/LucaRafa3/status/1017899443386011648?s=17

What did they mean by this?

 

[VaporDude95]

This on Twitter:

Luca Terzi (@LucaRafa3) Tweeted:
@Wimbledon This is an unbelievable decision, if I were you I would be terribly ashamed. You have basically destroyed Rafa's tournament and now you schedule the match under the roof. This is unacceptable. You really disappointed many, think about it. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. https://twitter.com/LucaRafa3/status/1017899443386011648?s=17

What did they mean by this?

I’m literally having a salt bath right now

 

[mellowyellow]

This will be really weird conditions for Nadal. He has played mid day when the players and sun have dried the court as much as possible. Should be fairly moist, fast and low bounce. Footing will be worse as well...

 

[Deleted member 754093]

The match is 8am eastern time. Not london. lmao. Match is 1pm london. Legit lol at you thinking they would play a match at 8am.

It’s been a long day. 6 hours of servebotting fries the mind

 

[GOATzilla]

Fed hating OP continues hating.
Too bad, sucker!

I guarantee I like Nadal more than you losers like Federer. Can't lose, no?

Are you slow, son? Make sense or GTFO

 

[Deleted member 754093]

The match is 8am eastern time. Not london. lmao. Match is 1pm london. Legit lol at you thinking they would play a match at 8am.

76 and low humidity still isn’t much different. It’s not like it’s going to be mid 90s

 

[flanker2000fr]

This on Twitter:

Luca Terzi (@LucaRafa3) Tweeted:
@Wimbledon This is an unbelievable decision, if I were you I would be terribly ashamed. You have basically destroyed Rafa's tournament and now you schedule the match under the roof. This is unacceptable. You really disappointed many, think about it. Unacceptable. Unacceptable. https://twitter.com/LucaRafa3/status/1017899443386011648?s=17

What did they mean by this?

I liked the world better without social media. Now, every m*ron is lead to believe that airing their opinion actually matters.

 

[Deleted member 688153]

I’m literally having a salt bath right now

Lots of folks saying it's disrecpectful to the Women's final, whatever that means.

Hands up anyone who cares more about that than the final two sets of this match lol

 

[Deleted member 688153]

It’s been a long day. 6 hours of servebotting fries the mind

You actually watched that?
I'm sorry.

 

[GOATzilla]

Lots of folks saying it's disrecpectful to the Women's final, whatever that means.

Hands up anyone who cares more about that than the final two sets of this match lol

Maestronian saying he doesn't care about Wimbledon semifinal after Federer gets knocked out. Just LMAO

 

[VaporDude95]

Lots of folks saying it's disrecpectful to the Women's final, whatever that means.

Hands up anyone who cares more about that than the final two sets of this match lol

I mean, just take a few minutes to scroll through the salt if you haven’t already. It’s delicious

https://mobile.twitter.com/Wimbledon/status/1017897189773922306

 

[VaporDude95]

Maestronian saying he doesn't care about Wimbledon semifinal after Federer gets knocked out. Just LMAO

Where did he say that he “doesn’t care”?

Pure conjecture

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Are you slow, son? Make sense or GTFO

Hahahahahahahahahahahahah

 

[Deleted member 754093]

You actually watched that?
I'm sorry.

An American man in a major semifinal is like a unicorn around here

 

[Deleted member 688153]

Maestronian saying he doesn't care about Wimbledon semifinal after Federer gets knocked out. Just LMAO

Women's final

Hahahahahahahahahah

tfw you're in ruins and also apparently can't speak English

 

[Rafa24]

It’s been a long day. 6 hours of servebotting fries the mind

it ruined my day and i didn't get any work done. was hoping to fastforward thru the bot fest and watch rafa and djoker and it started 3-4 hours later than I planned.

 

[GOATzilla]

Hahahahahahahahahah

tfw you're in ruins and also apparently can't speak English

Are you actually numb in the head?

Lots of folks saying it's disrecpectful to the Women's final, whatever that means.

Hands up anyone who cares more about that than the final two sets of this match lol