miniRafa386
Hall of Fame
Who has more pressure to win in 2009?
IMO:
Aus: Fed
RG: Rafa
Wim: Fed
US: Fed
IMO:
Aus: Fed
RG: Rafa
Wim: Fed
US: Fed
Wimbledon 2009- Fed/Rafa- Who has more pressure?
- Thread starter miniRafa386
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There's no predictions who will win asked, no? He just asks in what tournament the pressure's on who?
Federer at the 3 GS besides FO. FO on Nadal and no. 1 on Nadal.
norbac
Legend
Your sig says it all.
j/k No, I hope they won't meet again at Wimbledon, I want someone new to win it. Even though I did dream last night that Rafa won Wimbledon again.
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TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
What?
Anyway, that list is a dream wish. I don't dare make actual predictions. Also, I did answer the OP's question and set my post to match his.
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
Although I'm not too pleased about it being the Nadal-Fed show on the ATP over the last few years, those two are the most consistent. It will be interesting if, and when we have a major breakthrough besides the top two, or Djokovic and Murray.
tennis08tarheels
Hall of Fame
I think the pressure's on Nadal. If Federer, by some miracle, beats Nadal to win the FO and Wimbledon back-to-back, I don't think Nadal would ever fully recover.
miniRafa386
Hall of Fame
bingo.
fed will always have more pressure on him, to tie and exceed the slam record. i think fed has more pressure on him to get #1 back from nadal than the pressure that nadal has to hold on to #1. everyone expects fed to be #1, and frankly speaking i do to.
for all of 2009, i think that the #1 spot will be bouncing between the two, while 3-4 will be between djoko and murray. also i can see monfils jumping into the mix as well as del potro and tsonga
M
Morrissey
Guest
It's an interesting question. Because if Fed doesn't win it then people will even doubt his chances of winning it again while Nadal is defending champ so pressure is naturally on him. But this is still Fed's favorite slam so if he doesn't win it next year either then every fan of his will get on his case.
JoshDragon
Hall of Fame
That's not going to happen.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
FO Nadal
Wimbledon Federer
US Open Nadal
Australian Open Nadal
Wimbledon Federer
US Open Nadal
Australian Open Nadal
bumblebee
Rookie
i agree with everything here, except the us open going to nadal... i jst dont see it happening as i think Nadal still doesnt feel fully confident at the us open... maybe in 2010 or 2011, but 2009, i still think us open is between fed and an unknown...
SempreSami
Hall of Fame
Pressure's always highest on the defending champion imo.
Yeah sorry, I misread. My mistake.
cucio
Legend
I think the question is largely irrelevant, because both have demonstrated time and again they can handle whatever pressure you put on them.
If they have endured that epic Wimby '08 final without turning into a quivering pile of goo, I don't know what else could you throw at them to make them flinch.
If they have endured that epic Wimby '08 final without turning into a quivering pile of goo, I don't know what else could you throw at them to make them flinch.
tennis-hero
Banned
I think Richard Gasguet needs to start showing at the slams
dudes got the talent....... so typically french of course
talent to beat the world and he somehow refuses, unless he feels like playing well
dudes got the talent....... so typically french of course
talent to beat the world and he somehow refuses, unless he feels like playing well
I'd have to go with:
FO: Federer. He's not getting any younger and he said himself the French is one of the last remaining things he wants to win in tennis.
USO: Federer's already "conquered" the USO winning it 5 times in a row, while Rafa is yet to win a slam on hards. Murray and Djokovic have already gotten to finals here and then of course there's Tsonga and Delpo who aren't bad on hards either.
AO: See USO
Though I doubt they feel any pressure going into these tournaments anyway. The players don't think/prepare in the way some of us think we do.
FO: Federer. He's not getting any younger and he said himself the French is one of the last remaining things he wants to win in tennis.
USO: Federer's already "conquered" the USO winning it 5 times in a row, while Rafa is yet to win a slam on hards. Murray and Djokovic have already gotten to finals here and then of course there's Tsonga and Delpo who aren't bad on hards either.
AO: See USO
Though I doubt they feel any pressure going into these tournaments anyway. The players don't think/prepare in the way some of us think we do.
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
True. I'm not sure any other ATP player could have withstood the pressures of that match.
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
Good answer! (claps hands)
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norbac
Legend
I'd never thought of that, but now that you mention it that is a very true statement.
DoubleDeuce
Hall of Fame
The pressure a player feels is directly related to what is expected from him/her. Named the king of clay, there is enormous pressure on Rafa to defend his title at FO. On the three HC majors, Federer has been either winner or runner up therefore he is expected to perform well. In the case of Nadal and Wimbledon, I remember Federer saying this few months back " This is my side of the season". Federer will no doubt feel more pressure to peform and meet the expectaions where he has been consistently played well.
Throughout 09, as someone else mentioned here, Roger will have more pressure on him than Rafa who is only 22 and persuambly has more time to come up with victories.
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ThugNasty
Guest
Thats for sure, the shots fed and nadal hit in the business end of the fourth set tiebreak where probably the clutchest shots ever produced.
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
I think the pressure depends on certain circumstances such as who one the previous slam.
Going into the AO, the pressure will be mainly on Djoko, because he has a lot of points to defend. Both Rafa and Roger will have less pressure, as they can improve last year's performance.
RG: Rafa
Wimbledon: Rafa defends the title, and much will depend on the outcome of other slams. If Roger wins the AO or RG, he could surpass Pete's record, so that is a huge deal of pressure in that case.
For the USO, I think we would have to wait until after the first slams to know where the pressure will rest.
Going into the AO, the pressure will be mainly on Djoko, because he has a lot of points to defend. Both Rafa and Roger will have less pressure, as they can improve last year's performance.
RG: Rafa
Wimbledon: Rafa defends the title, and much will depend on the outcome of other slams. If Roger wins the AO or RG, he could surpass Pete's record, so that is a huge deal of pressure in that case.
For the USO, I think we would have to wait until after the first slams to know where the pressure will rest.
World Beater
Hall of Fame
federer in every match without a doubt.
nadal doesnt know the kind of pressure federer faces...when everyone expects you to win every match because of the standard you have set the last few years, because of the talent and game, because of the elegance and fluidity that makes it seem so easy, because the past and present anoint you as the GOAT.
nadal doesnt know the kind of pressure federer faces...when everyone expects you to win every match because of the standard you have set the last few years, because of the talent and game, because of the elegance and fluidity that makes it seem so easy, because the past and present anoint you as the GOAT.
Being #1 in your sport adds a certain amount of pressure aswell. We'll see how Nadal handles this over the coming months.
ruerooo
Legend
So well said.
ruerooo
Legend
Plus I think, technically speaking, it's too early to tell, yes?
I mean, depending on what kind of pressure you mean - to be #1? to keep #1? to win depending on what the FO results were? - it's going to bend and flex depending on what happens (Madrid, Paris, Shanghai, A0) between now and then, y/y?
I mean, depending on what kind of pressure you mean - to be #1? to keep #1? to win depending on what the FO results were? - it's going to bend and flex depending on what happens (Madrid, Paris, Shanghai, A0) between now and then, y/y?
miniRafa386
Hall of Fame
come to think of it, i completly forgot about djoko. i think theres even more pressure on him than on fed or rafa because its his only slam. he needs to defend australia to tell the world that it wasnt a fluke, even tho he had the easiest draw out of the top 3 seeds in terms of play, a mono'ed fed, and a treeing tsonga who wasnt even treeing in the finals.
so my revised goes:
AUS: Djoko, and if not him then Fed
RG: Nadal
Wimbly: Fed
USO: Fed
This I don't agree with, only a player determines how much pressure is on himself by having realistic goals and expectations.
When Nadal is just about to start his first match in trying to defend his FO title, he doesn't think to himself: "OK, I'm Rafa the king of clay and I must make sure I don't lose here so I can keep my enormous ego.". No, Never. As fans, we listen to commentators and are surrounded by the media that goes on in the internet, but the players aren't under the same influences. It's why a player like Gasquet will always find it hard, because he had to deal with that kind of thing from a young age. Had he been born or brought up in a country like Belarus, the "media issue" wouldn't be such a big deal. It's when people think they know too much of what goes on in a player's head that becomes the problem.
vtmike
Banned
Are you willing to bet you entire life savings on this claim? Fed could win FO....I mean he has been close in the past except 2008.....
