With their careers near end, what would be best for them to win ?

[Van Der Skljo]

Federer: Is it one more Wimby or is it project 20+ ? Cements his GOAT status, leaves Laver behind.
Nadal: One more RG or AO and RG combined ? Climbs closer to Federer or maybe equals him, leaves Djokovic behind.
Djokovic: One more RG or NCYGS ? Equals with Nadal or with Federer and leaves Nadal behind.
Murray: RG+AO ? Makes term big 4 a bit more meaningful.

If we are to be realistic about it, anything could happen at this moment, but what would be really great to see in these 2 or 3 years ?

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

They do have to really hurry up and win those titles this and next year. Other young players are about to beat them, they are so close now. In 3 years I don't think either of the players mentioned will win any slams at all.

 

[Van Der Skljo]

They do have to really hurry up and win those titles this and next year. Other young players are about to beat them, they are so close now. In 3 years I don't think either of the players mentioned will win any slams at all.

Looking at Federer and his run at 35, why do you think any of young players could actually steal something from them ?

 

[Sysyphus]

Nadal: One more RG or AO and RG combined ? Climbs closer to Federer or maybe equals him, leaves Djokovic behind.
Djokovic: One more RG or NCYGS ? Equals with Nadal or with Federer and leaves Nadal behind.

What would be best for them to win, only one RG, or the RG along with more slams???

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Looking at Federer and his run at 35, why do you think any of young players could actually steal something from them ?

Because they are getting very close beating top players. They are young and will get better. While the older aint getting any better. Novak can't change his game at this age and become a more aggressive player. Fed has a different game and therefor able to have this amazing run now, but won't go on forever.

 

[Van Der Skljo]

What would be best for them to win, only one RG, or the RG along with more slams???

We've seen some Fed fans disagree over future Fed's accomplishments-should he stay playing more winning nothing, or winning one Wimby and retire. It actually means are you down to earth or you are optimistic fan.

 

[Van Der Skljo]

Because they are getting very close beating top players. They are young and will get better. While the older aint getting any better. Novak can't change his game at this age and become a more aggressive player. Fed has a different game and therefor able to have this amazing run now, but won't go on forever.

Novak is weakest link here I think, since he has given Kyrgios some air into his wings, but looking at Roger first and foremost, it really strikes me how long can he last as best around. Stan Wawrinka isn't getting any younger also, but he has proven that Slams could be won even if you past 30. As for youngsters, they are still standing in awe of those 4 and are afraid to push them. Nobody except Kyrgios with Djokovic, has shown any signs he could dethrone those old players and continue some new wave.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Novak is weakest link here I think, since he has given Kyrgios some air into his wings, but looking at Roger first and foremost, it really strikes me how long can he last as best around. Stan Wawrinka isn't getting any younger also, but he has proven that Slams could be won even if you past 30. As for youngsters, they are still standing in awe of those 4 and are afraid to push them. Nobody except Kyrgios with Djokovic, has shown any signs he could dethrone those old players and continue some new wave.

How long do you expect Federer to win slams?

And why don't you think that any younger players will get any better? They are very close now.

 

[LETitBE]

Novak is weakest link here I think, since he has given Kyrgios some air into his wings, but looking at Roger first and foremost, it really strikes me how long can he last as best around. Stan Wawrinka isn't getting any younger also, but he has proven that Slams could be won even if you past 30. As for youngsters, they are still standing in awe of those 4 and are afraid to push them. Nobody except Kyrgios with Djokovic, has shown any signs he could dethrone those old players and continue some new wave.

Kyrgios beat nadal 3 years ago didnt he?

 

[spirit95]

Fed should retire at #1

 

[Chanwan]

What would be best for them to win, only one RG, or the RG along with more slams???

All of them seem very weird to me.
Fed: One more Wimbledon vs. 2+ more slams (20+).
Murray: No choice to chose from??
Novak: 1 slam vs. another NCYGS???
Rafa: One RG vs. RG + AO??

 

[Van Der Skljo]

How long do you expect Federer to win slams?

And why don't you think that any younger players will get any better? They are very close now.

This year and next Fed is good to win Slams. Younger players either don't have what it takes to win Slams with these players around, or they are just too scared. Nobody shown any real progress to be honest.

Kyrgios beat nadal 3 years ago didnt he?

And Federer also, but he is still nutcase and he can't go around thinking beating those 3 is enough thing to do to win a Major.

 

[Van Der Skljo]

All of them seem very weird to me.
Fed: One more Wimbledon vs. 2+ more slams (20+).
Murray: No choice to chose from??
Novak: 1 slam vs. another NCYGS???
Rafa: One RG vs. RG + AO??

Imagine you are a Fed fan... would you like to see things stay the same or would you like to see Fed's buddy Nadal closer to him, or maybe you would like to see Novak ahead of Nadal because you hate Nadal, or you would like to see Murray with better CV when all things end ? There are a lot of combinations we could talk about.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

This year and next Fed is good to win Slams. Younger players either don't have what it takes to win Slams with these players around, or they are just too scared. Nobody shown any real progress to be honest.


And Federer also, but he is still nutcase and he can't go around thinking beating those 3 is enough thing to do to win a Major.

You were mentioning next 2-3 years as Rafa Novak and Roger will win all of the slams.

Well, I think that is highly unlikely. Maybe this year and maybe next year, but in 2 years we will have new slam winners.

 

[metsman]

God these threads...

 

[LETitBE]

Imagine you are a Fed fan... would you like to see things stay the same or would you like to see Fed's buddy Nadal closer to him, or maybe you would like to see Novak ahead of Nadal because you hate Nadal, or you would like to see Murray with better CV when all things end ? There are a lot of combinations we could talk about.

i'd like to find out who the operation peurto bloodbags belong to,is it really too much to ask?

 

[LETitBE]

God these threads...

dont you mean Federer these threads!

 

[Van Der Skljo]

You were mentioning next 2-3 years as Rafa Novak and Roger will win all of the slams.

Well, I think that is highly unlikely. Maybe this year and maybe next year, but in 2 years we will have new slam winners.

Not all, you forgot Murray, and Wawrinka could steal some.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Not all, you forgot Murray, and Wawrinka could steal some.

So, you honestly don't think any other player younger than you mentioned will not win any slam the next 3 years?
Ill bet my liver on that in 3 years we will have different and younger players dominating the tour.

 

[Chanwan]

Imagine you are a Fed fan... would you like to see things stay the same or would you like to see Fed's buddy Nadal closer to him, or maybe you would like to see Novak ahead of Nadal because you hate Nadal, or you would like to see Murray with better CV when all things end ? There are a lot of combinations we could talk about.

Sorry, still don't get it.
As a Fed fan, I would like Fed to get to 20+ more than him getting another Wimbledon (but if it's just 20, it's a tad close, cause hey, Wimbledon is Wimbledon).
As a Fed fan, I wouldn't wanna see Novak get yet another NCYGS nor Rafa with another AO (2 slams at each ain't huge for me, but it is to some. He can have his decima though).
Andy winning all 4 would feel a bit weird given so many past greats, who've fallen short, but I do want him to get an Australian Open

 

[Van Der Skljo]

Sorry, still don't get it.
As a Fed fan, I would like Fed to get to 20+ more than him getting another Wimbledon (but if it's just 20, it's a tad close, cause hey, Wimbledon is Wimbledon).
As a Fed fan, I wouldn't wanna see Novak get yet another NCYGS nor Rafa with another AO (2 slams at each ain't huge for me, but it is to some. He can have his decima though).
Andy winning all 4 would feel a bit weird given so many past greats, who've fallen short, but I do want him to get an Australian Open

Well it wasn't that hard. You gave Rafa 1 RG and Murray at least 1 Slam.

So, you honestly don't think any other player younger than you mentioned will not win any slam the next 3 years?
Ill bet my liver on that in 3 years we will have different and younger players dominating the tour.

In 2-3 years I believe there will be no young player which will take 2-3 Slams in one year. Which means big 4 have a good chance this and next year to win bunch.
But I ain't gonna put my liver at stake , this topic is just for something to talk about.

 

[NGM]

What would be best for them to win, only one RG, or the RG along with more slams???

Lol. OP must be not very smart.

 

[Mazz Retic]

So, you honestly don't think any other player younger than you mentioned will not win any slam the next 3 years?
Ill bet my liver on that in 3 years we will have different and younger players dominating the tour.

That's an extreme bet.

 

[mike danny]

So, you honestly don't think any other player younger than you mentioned will not win any slam the next 3 years?
Ill bet my liver on that in 3 years we will have different and younger players dominating the tour.

Raonic, Nishikori and Dimitrov are not going to get any better. They are lost causes. They have reached their ceiling.

 

[Luckydog]

Big 4 have claimed enough(maybe Murray not ), why not pay more attention to youngsters?Anyway ,they are the future of tennis.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Federer: Wimbledon
Djokovic: 2xRG, USOpen
Murray: Wimbledon, RG
The Nadal: world fishing championships

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Raonic, Nishikori and Dimitrov are not going to get any better. They are lost causes. They have reached their ceiling.

Well, I'm not thinking anyone of those are going to win slams.

 

[mike danny]

Well, I'm not thinking anyone of those are going to win slams.

Good. Those guys are downright terrible. I hope Zverev and Kyrgios beat them repeatedly in slams in the future.

 

[Cenarius]

Murray: FO
Nadal: W
Djokovic: AO
Federer: OGS... Now being serious another FO.
That's how I see it If the answer is limited to just 1 more slam.

 

[Jackuar]

Murray: FO
Nadal: W
Djokovic: AO
Federer: OGS... Now being serious another FO.
That's how I see it If the answer is limited to just 1 more slam.

Same thoughts here.

 

[captainbryce]

Federer: Is it one more Wimby or is it project 20+ ? Cements his GOAT status, leaves Laver behind.
Nadal: One more RG or AO and RG combined ? Climbs closer to Federer or maybe equals him, leaves Djokovic behind.
Djokovic: One more RG or NCYGS ? Equals with Nadal or with Federer and leaves Nadal behind.
Murray: RG+AO ? Makes term big 4 a bit more meaningful.

If we are to be realistic about it, anything could happen at this moment, but what would be really great to see in these 2 or 3 years ?

2017 FO: Nadal
2017 WIM: Federer
2017 USO: Federer
2018 AO: Murray
2018 FO: Murray
2018 WIM: Djokovic
2018 USO: Nadal

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Another French Open or another 4 consecutive Slams...

It's so difficult to choose because Novak already achieved both of these things once before.

 

[TheAssassin]

So basically you are asking is it better to win Slams or more Slams? Dude...

 

[GabeT]

If you can only win one more slam do you go for the one that provides the most diversification (RG for Nole and Fed, AO for Nadal) or the one that maximizes Tourney GOAT status (Wimby for Fed, AO for Nole, RG for Nadal)?

 

[BeatlesFan]

Federer: Is it one more Wimby or is it project 20+ ? Cements his GOAT status, leaves Laver behind.

Laver is "behind" and has been since 2009. Roger has 18 majors, Rod has 11. Yes, the CYGS is the apex of tennis, but Federer's career achievements absolutely shatter Laver's records. Rod is the first to admit it and admits it often. He just said again at IW that Roger was GOAT. Fed doesn't need another Wimbledon, FO or anything else to leave the Rocket "behind." And that's said respectfully, since Rod is deservedly beloved.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Raonic, Nishikori and Dimitrov are not going to get any better. They are lost causes. They have reached their ceiling.

+10. In fact, Raonic is probably declining, as is Nishi.

 

[Van Der Skljo]

Laver is "behind" and has been since 2009. Roger has 18 majors, Rod has 11. Yes, the CYGS is the apex of tennis, but Federer's career achievements absolutely shatter Laver's records. Rod is the first to admit it and admits it often. He just said again at IW that Roger was GOAT. Fed doesn't need another Wimbledon, FO or anything else to leave the Rocket "behind." And that's said respectfully, since Rod is deservedly beloved.

Laver has 19 from 1960-1969. You can call 1963-1967 whatever you like, but they were the top trophies among professionals at that time like Slams are now.
Now what it would look like if Laver didn't say that Roger is greatest player of all times ? Former pros say many things, being humble about their own achievements is just one of them.

 

[Deleted member 742196]

Next 3 years ~

• Federer: one last Wimby and remaining competitive for as long as he plays.
• Nadal: one last French Open and remaining competitive as long as he plays.
• Djokovic: its enough, he's got the all time masters. Constant and equal back and forth with Murray.
• Murray: perhaps a couple more slams. Constant and equal back and forth with Djokovic.
• Wawarinka: Wimby to complete the career slam and WTF year end #1.
• Nishikori: 1 slam to justify all the years of hype. Mini-rivalry with Dimitrov.
• Dimitrov: 1 slam to justify all the years of hype. Mini-rivalry with Nishikori.
• Del Potro: 1 more US open.
• Raonic: 3 years of losses in finals.
• Young Guns: Kgyrios/Zverev trade slams to set up next generation rivalry strong.

 

[ojo rojo]

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Good. Those guys are downright terrible. I hope Zverev and Kyrgios beat them repeatedly in slams in the future.

Me too

 

[Zebrev]

I've been saying this for a while. The big four is done within the next two years. Once 2018 ends, that's it.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Laver has 19 from 1960-1969.

Laver has 11 majors, period. The time before the Open Era doesn't count, whether you want it to or not.

 

[Fedeonic]

Federer: 8th Wimbledon, 7th Masters and keep competitive.
Nadal: 10th Roland Garros (La Décima) and keep competitive.
Djokovic: 3rd US Open, maybe 2 more Slams, make a final assault to N°1.
Murray: 1st Roland Garros or 3rd Wimbledon, keep winning titles, hold N°1 as much as possible.

 

[Van Der Skljo]

Laver has 11 majors, period. The time before the Open Era doesn't count, whether you want it to or not.

Tennis just didn't exist in those days ? OMG.
There will be a time when achievements of today's tennis stars won't count as they count now, and everything will be looked upon from different perspective.

 

[jimmy0slams]

Can't see Nadals career ending anytime soon, there is no young lads coming up to challenge him,
he should be still challenging for slams into his 40's ..

 

[BGod]

Andy Murray has to finish with more Slams than Wawrinka. That's pretty much it.

IF he can manage another Wimbledon, I mean he really isn't going to be well remembered outside of Britain as it is, so might as well shore that up.

 

[Tennisanity]

Fed left Laver behind long ago.