Wozniacki to Serena: "I'm tired of losing to you."

[Fed881981]

"I told Serena: Can you just leave me alone? Like, go away from the court," Wozniacki joked. "I love you, but stay away from the other side of the court. Quite frankly, I'm tired of losing to you."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/25/us-tennis-women-finals-williams-idUSKCN0IE0EC20141025

 

[staceyliving]

That is cute. When Serena reaches her 25th slam I am sure she will let her buddy Woz win a few of them.

 

[Fed881981]

That is cute. When Serena reaches her 25th slam I am sure she will let her buddy Woz win a few of them.

Woz is getting closer and she is lucky to be way younger than Serena, younger than Pova and Na Li is out. If she continues to improve as she did recently, her day will come even before Serena's retirement.

Point with Woz is that she couldn't reach any GS final other than the USO, but the latter became Serena's specialty of late. You know that it's very hard to beat her in New York, so Woz could win a slam if she makes the final elsewhere. For that to happen, she needs to be more lethal with her shots and simply be more aggressive.

 

[HRB]

Rest of the WTA to Wozzy.."JOIN THE CLUB!!!!"

 

[Nostradamus]

"I told Serena: Can you just leave me alone? Like, go away from the court," Wozniacki joked. "I love you, but stay away from the other side of the court. Quite frankly, I'm tired of losing to you."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/25/us-tennis-women-finals-williams-idUSKCN0IE0EC20141025

So like she is saying SERENA should retire.??????

 

[THUNDERVOLLEY]

Woz is getting closer and she is lucky to be way younger than Serena, younger than Pova and Na Li is out. If she continues to improve as she did recently, her day will come even before Serena's retirement.

Point with Woz is that she couldn't reach any GS final other than the USO, but the latter became Serena's specialty of late. You know that it's very hard to beat her in New York, so Woz could win a slam if she makes the final elsewhere. For that to happen, she needs to be more lethal with her shots and simply be more aggressive.

I think she's committed to being the opposite of her earlier self, and the changes are apparent. Now--more than any other point in her career, she seems so aggressive, that a first major no longer seems out of the question.

 

[staceyliving]

Woz is getting closer and she is lucky to be way younger than Serena, younger than Pova and Na Li is out. If she continues to improve as she did recently, her day will come even before Serena's retirement.

Point with Woz is that she couldn't reach any GS final other than the USO, but the latter became Serena's specialty of late. You know that it's very hard to beat her in New York, so Woz could win a slam if she makes the final elsewhere. For that to happen, she needs to be more lethal with her shots and simply be more aggressive.

She was very aggressive in the WTA Championships. It was the best tennis I ever saw her play. Destroying Kvitova on a fast indoor court, and pushing a relatively good Serena to the brink would have been unthinkable for her in the past.

 

[sundaypunch]

She was very aggressive in the WTA Championships. It was the best tennis I ever saw her play. Destroying Kvitova on a fast indoor court, and pushing a relatively good Serena to the brink would have been unthinkable for her in the past.

Yes, she was playing aggressively in the 3rd set and managed to go up a break. Then, when serving for the match at 5-4, she went back to her passive play and couldn't hold. She was 4-6 feet behind the baseline retrieving most of the game while Serena stayed at the baseline and dictated play.

She may not have won if she was more aggressive but should realize by now that it is her best chance.

 

[staceyliving]

Yes, she was playing aggressively in the 3rd set and managed to go up a break. Then, when serving for the match at 5-4, she went back to her passive play and couldn't hold. She was 4-6 feet behind the baseline retrieving most of the game while Serena stayed at the baseline and dictated play.

She may not have won if she was more aggressive but should realize by now that it is her best chance.

Well this playing style is new to her. It is a work in progress. She sure has progressed a lot with it since just the U.S Open though.

I agree with those who say there is a good chance she wins a slam next year. Along with Serena still going strong, Kvitova coming back to form, and the up and comers, that also should comfortably shut Sharapova out from ever winning another again.

 

[THUNDERVOLLEY]

that also should comfortably shut Sharapova out from ever winning another again.

I would not count Sharapova out of being the player to watch at the French Open. The event has become her best surface recently. She is unusually comfortable there.

 

[staceyliving]

I would not count Sharapova out of being the player to watch at the French Open. The event has become her best surface recently. She is unusually comfortable there.

True, could see her winning 1 last French either in 2015 or 2016. Maybe, but could easily see her not winning another even there. What is obvious is that if she has another major in her, it is another Roland Garros, and it has to be in the next 2 years.

 

[Praetorian]

I would not count Sharapova out of being the player to watch at the French Open. The event has become her best surface recently. She is unusually comfortable there.

Sadly, even though I abhor Sharapova, I do respect her enough, that she has a "Puncher's Chance" at any event she plays in.

 

[staceyliving]

Sadly, even though I abhor Sharapova, I do respect her enough, that she has a "Puncher's Chance" at any event she plays in.

Not really. Someone you say that about is someone who can beat anyone on any given day. Obviously Maria who has no chance vs Serena and has lost to her like 15 times in a row, is not someone that applies to.

She is worthless at Wimbledon so that is out for good. On hard courts we have Serena, Wozniacki, and when in form Halep and Azarenka, who are all stronger than her, and in addition to that she is inconsistent on hards and often goes out to nobodies these days too. So that is out too when she only has another 5 hard court majors to play in before turning 30.

Leaving only Roland Garros. However if she faces Serena even there, it is over. Halep and Bouchard were very close to beating her this year, and they are only going to get better, while Maria only gets older. Wozniacki also has a lot of potential on clay, especialy with her new more aggressive game as her past biggest problem was she had too little power to hit through the clay (and not enough spin to compensate).

 

[HRB]

Not really. Someone you say that about is someone who can beat anyone on any given day. Obviously Maria who has no chance vs Serena and has lost to her like 15 times in a row, is not someone that applies to.

She is worthless at Wimbledon so that is out for good. On hard courts we have Serena, Wozniacki, and when in form Halep and Azarenka, who are all stronger than her, and in addition to that she is inconsistent on hards and often goes out to nobodies these days too. So that is out too when she only has another 5 hard court majors to play in before turning 30.

Leaving only Roland Garros. However if she faces Serena even there, it is over. Halep and Bouchard were very close to beating her this year, and they are only going to get better, while Maria only gets older. Wozniacki also has a lot of potential on clay, especialy with her new more aggressive game as her past biggest problem was she had too little power to hit through the clay (and not enough spin to compensate).

Ahh...another thread and another theme of bashing a highly accomplished player commonly know as a never give up fighter and contender in all slams by just about all PAID to comment as opposed to those around these parts! What the hell did the big tall blondes do to you?

Hell, in another thread you repeatedly bashed Genie for being all hype....and now in this one you contradict yourself as you actually use her as an example of someone who is "only going to get better"? Can't have it both ways and gain any creditability Cuz!!! LMAO.

So really why the hate? Jealous of all the pretty ones..who do you like?

Also..name me ANY current player who can consistently beat Serena...I'll give you a hint..NO ONE! Oh and yeah, that 15 times against Serena is a big number, but you know what it takes to play Serena that much for a top player? MAKING SEMI'S AND FINALS A LOT.

I'll go with facts...while Serena is still healthy, she is the hands down favorite of everything she enters against anyone on tour! So yes Caroline, everyone is sick of it, you didn't make a crazy statement out there!!!

 

[90's Clay]

Why doesn't MUGniacki do something about it then (Like improve her game) instead of whining like a sissy.

Serena is what 33 or something? Hardly at a unbeatable dominant form at that age

 

[HRB]

Why doesn't MUGniacki do something about it then (Like improve her game) instead of whining like a sissy.

Serena is what 33 or something? Hardly at a unbeatable dominant form at that age

Ummn...me thinks if Halep was within slapping distance of you she'd wack your face for Wozzy. DID YOU WATCH ONE SECOND OF HER FINAL???

I guarantee tons of WTA players in their early 20's would gladly switch if they could be THAT kinda 33 "or something"! If they had answers for her she wouldn't have STARTED AND ENDED THE YEAR AT #1!!!

Plus is was "tongue in cheek" Wozzy wasn't "whining"....like a "sissy"; albeit a sissy who'd blow you or me off the court any day.

 

[staceyliving]

Ahh...another thread and another theme of bashing a highly accomplished player commonly know as a never give up fighter and contender in all slams by just about all PAID to comment as opposed to those around these parts! What the hell did the big tall blondes do to you?

Hell, in another thread you repeatedly bashed Genie for being all hype....and now in this one you contradict yourself as you actually use her as an example of someone who is "only going to get better"? Can't have it both ways and gain any creditability Cuz!!! LMAO.

So really why the hate? Jealous of all the pretty ones..who do you like?

Also..name me ANY current player who can consistently beat Serena...I'll give you a hint..NO ONE! Oh and yeah, that 15 times against Serena is a big number, but you know what it takes to play Serena that much for a top player? MAKING SEMI'S AND FINALS A LOT.

I'll go with facts...while Serena is still healthy, she is the hands down favorite of everything she enters against anyone on tour! So yes Caroline, everyone is sick of it, you didn't make a crazy statement out there!!!

First off I don't think Bouchard is tennis's next big thing, is even certain to win a slam, and if she does win one it wont be many (1 or 2 only). She will also never be the player prime (2004-early 2008 ) Sharapova was, or come close to Sharapova's career. However that is not inconsistent with saying she is getting better, and can easily be another to stand in the way of Maria winning any future slams.

First off Sharapova is already well past her prime. This is something you as a fan should be the first to admit, since to suggest otherwise is a total insult to Maria, to even potray any tennis she has produced of late as her best standard of tennis in her career. As I mentioned her real prime ended over 6 years ago now. She is not going to get better at this point, only older and weaker. Bouchard nearly beat her at Roland Garros this year, and unlike Maria who will only further olden, will only improve. So yes it is quite plausible she will win some future encounters with Maria should they play late in a major. Meanwhile I stand by that Bouchard is unlikely to win a slam herself the next several years, yet that I would give her good odds in a future match with Maria should both be playing well enough to reach that deep, only puts Maria's odds in perspective.

 

[cc0509]

Not really. Someone you say that about is someone who can beat anyone on any given day. Obviously Maria who has no chance vs Serena and has lost to her like 15 times in a row, is not someone that applies to.

She is worthless at Wimbledon so that is out for good. On hard courts we have Serena, Wozniacki, and when in form Halep and Azarenka, who are all stronger than her, and in addition to that she is inconsistent on hards and often goes out to nobodies these days too. So that is out too when she only has another 5 hard court majors to play in before turning 30.

Leaving only Roland Garros. However if she faces Serena even there, it is over. Halep and Bouchard were very close to beating her this year, and they are only going to get better, while Maria only gets older. Wozniacki also has a lot of potential on clay, especialy with her new more aggressive game as her past biggest problem was she had too little power to hit through the clay (and not enough spin to compensate).

What are you talking about? Halep has never defeated Sharapova anywhere let alone on a hc! Sharapova is a better player than Halep is by a large margin. Forget Halep, she is overrated and dumb too thinking she could beat Serena twice in the same event.

Sharapova is still one of the favorites to win any event outside of Serena. Why do you find this so difficult to admit? If Serena is out of the way, Sharpaova always has a good chance, even an aging declining horrible serving Sharapova.

 

[staceyliving]

What are you talking about? Halep has never defeated Sharapova anywhere let alone on a hc! Sharapova is a better player than Halep is by a large margin. Forget Halep, she is overrated and dumb too thinking she could beat Serena twice in the same event.

Sharapova is still one of the favorites to win any event outside of Serena. Why do you find this so difficult to admit? If Serena is out of the way, Sharpaova always has a good chance, even an aging declining horrible serving Sharapova.

You keep dissing Halep yet she far outperformed your hype target Bouchard at the latest big event. Halep very nearly beat Maria on her best surface, in the best tournament Maria played all year. Of course Halep now back in form has a very good shot to beat Maria on hard courts today, especialy as she just keeps improving and an already way past her prime Maria keeps aging (and don't be so foolish to think Maria is ever going to be another Serena and winning slams in her 30s, ROTFL).

Sharapova has lost early (round of 16 or sooner) in her last 4 non clay slams she has played, and by the time the upcoming Australian Open rolls around it will be 2 years since her last non French quarterfinal. That is not speculation, but fact:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Sharapova

and just in case you didnt know none of those losses were to Serena or even a somewhat impressive opponent (apart from maybe Woz at the U.S Open). Your claim she is a big favorite for any slam she enters, is wishful thinking on your part, just as your desire to see Halep evaporate completely and Bouchard to be tennis's next big thing.

 

[SLD76]

The funniest part of this year's WTA finals was how Bouchard got destroyed by eveyone.

I have to agree with staceyliving ' s assessment of Sharapova. She has been inconsistent at every slam but the FO the last few years. Clay has become her best surface. She doesn't have the wheels to defend on a faster hc and her grass game has declined.

AO should be her best slam outside of FO but she done nothing there but suffer embarrassing beatdowns

 

[staceyliving]

The funniest part of this year's WTA finals was how Bouchard got destroyed by eveyone.

Yes, I quite enjoyed it. I think in the long run it is actually good for her though. She needed to eat some humble pie. It is pretty obvious to me she began thinking she was way better than she really was around the middle of this year. She still has a lot to work on, and I am sure now knows t his.

 

[cc0509]

staceyliving;8820228]You keep dissing Halep yet she far outperformed your hype target Bouchard at the latest big event.

Yes, Halep outperformed Bouchard at the latest event. EVERYBODY outperformed Bouchard. I am not particularly a Bouchard fan but I think for a 20 year old she had a great year at the slams and I like her attitude. Obviously she is now having a meltdown and we will have to see if it is temporary or not.

With respect to Halep, yes I think she is extremely overrated.

Halep very nearly beat Maria on her best surface,

You don't get points for "very nearly" beating somebody. The bottom line is Halep did not beat Sharapova.

Of course Halep now back in form has a very good shot to beat Maria on hard courts today

I will believe it when I see it.

especialy as she just keeps improving and an already way past her prime Maria keeps aging (and don't be so foolish to think Maria is ever going to be another Serena and winning slams in her 30s, ROTFL).

When did I ever say Sharapova is another Serena. Serena is much more talented and is one of the greatest players of all time.

Your claim she is a big favorite for any slam she enters, is wishful thinking on your part,

I said outside of Serena, Sharapova is always "a" favorite, not "the" favorite.

just as your desire to see Halep evaporate completely and Bouchard to be tennis's next big thing

I don't wish to see Halep evaporate but I do think she is overrated and that many players are better. Obviously Sharapova is a better player than Halep is. That is a no-brainer even if you hate Sharapova.

As for Bouchard, I don't know where her career is going to go or end up but I think her year at the slams this year was impressive, that is all. No more, no less. She could be a Gasquet type player, i.e. all hype or go on and win some slams.

 

[cc0509]

Yes, I quite enjoyed it. I think in the long run it is actually good for her though. She needed to eat some humble pie. It is pretty obvious to me she began thinking she was way better than she really was around the middle of this year. She still has a lot to work on, and I am sure now knows t his.

She needs to get herself a new coach.

 

[Midaso240]

I think Sharapova needs a new coach. Her game has shown no signs of improvement this year. Even on clay,she wasn't playing as well as previous years but somehow still cleaned up. I still wouldn't want to count her out of any slams though,she will fight to the bitter end...

 

[HRB]

The funniest part of this year's WTA finals was how Bouchard got destroyed by eveyone.

I have to agree with staceyliving ' s assessment of Sharapova. She has been inconsistent at every slam but the FO the last few years. Clay has become her best surface. She doesn't have the wheels to defend on a faster hc and her grass game has declined.

AO should be her best slam outside of FO but she done nothing there but suffer embarrassing beatdowns

Yup..that was "funny" how Genie was "destroyed by everyone"?...So let me see here, by "everyone" you are of course describing the reigning WORLD #1 and arguable the woman's GOAT, who won the whole thing, the World's new #3 and the most rapidly rising star who made the final, and a slam champion who has made a great comeback in her own right and is always a contender of late, Ana, who actually is one of 5 players to beat Serena this year. Gee..she should be so ashamed of herself? LMAO!

Did you even put one ounce of thought into your hater statement?

Apparently not.

Here's the thing, I don't mind the blatant haters, you're all kinda funny in your attempt to hide it with antidotes, but my question is, when Genie does breakthrough, or Maria does win another slam in the near future..are you going to be big boys and girls and eat your words or just never come back and face the music?

 

[ibbi]

Spoken like a true loser.

 

[SLD76]

Yup..that was "funny" how Genie was "destroyed by everyone"?...So let me see here, by "everyone" you are of course describing the reigning WORLD #1 and arguable the woman's GOAT, who won the whole thing, the World's new #3 and the most rapidly rising star who made the final, and a slam champion who has made a great comeback in her own right and is always a contender of late, Ana, who actually is one of 5 players to beat Serena this year. Gee..she should be so ashamed of herself? LMAO!

Did you even put one ounce of thought into your hater statement?

Apparently not.

Here's the thing, I don't mind the blatant haters, you're all kinda funny in your attempt to hide it with antidotes, but my question is, when Genie does breakthrough, or Maria does win another slam in the near future..are you going to be big boys and girls and eat your words or just never come back and face the music?

Dear god the butthurt. Frankly she should be embarrassed by getting demolished by all the top players. I would be if I was supposed to be a future slam champion and future top player.

Stop making excuses. You can't excuse away her beatdowns in one breath and tout her as the future of tennis in the next breath.

And I don't hate Bouchard but the hype machine was working overtime for her for the wrong reasons. Halep proved she is the real deal this tournament. Hell, she proved it last year and this year.

Also just to further rub it in...it shouldn't be a shock she got destroyed so badly in the tour finals. Her record against the other 7 women heading into the WTA finals was 4-12. 3 losses for every victory. What happened in the actual tournament was business as usual.

 

[cc0509]

Dear god the butthurt. Frankly she should be embarrassed by getting demolished by all the top players. I would be if I was supposed to be a future slam champion and future top player.

Stop making excuses. You can't excuse away her beatdowns in one breath and tout her as the future of tennis in the next breath.

And I don't hate Bouchard but the hype machine was working overtime for her for the wrong reasons. Halep proved she is the real deal this tournament. Hell, she proved it last year and this year.

Also just to further rub it in...it shouldn't be a shock she got destroyed so badly in the tour finals. Her record against the other 7 women heading into the WTA finals was 4-12. 3 losses for every victory. What happened in the actual tournament was business as usual.

But Bouchard proved she was the real deal too by making a F and two SF's of a slam at age 20. She did better than Halep at the slams and defeated Halep at Wiimbledon.

What was Halep's record vs the other seven women going into the WTA Finals? Not good for sure. I think the only women out of the seven that Halep had a winning record against going into the WTA Finals was Kvitova? I am too lazy to look it up to confirm.

Be consistent at least. Both of these women need to regroup, maybe get new coaches and assess their futures.

 

[HRB]

Dear god the butthurt. Frankly she should be embarrassed by getting demolished by all the top players. I would be if I was supposed to be a future slam champion and future top player.

Stop making excuses. You can't excuse away her beatdowns in one breath and tout her as the future of tennis in the next breath.

And I don't hate Bouchard but the hype machine was working overtime for her for the wrong reasons. Halep proved she is the real deal this tournament. Hell, she proved it last year and this year.

Also just to further rub it in...it shouldn't be a shock she got destroyed so badly in the tour finals. Her record against the other 7 women heading into the WTA finals was 4-12. 3 losses for every victory. What happened in the actual tournament was business as usual.

"Dear god the butthurt"...Are you 13...hope so..making excuses for you..you're welcome!:twisted:

Ahh..yeah, I'm making excuses for her? How is calling out haters that use use phrases like "beat downs" to top players, and imply that these results prove she is over hyped and not a future contender, making excuses for her? I have plenty of things I think she can improve on, however none of these are keeping her off my future contender list. You clowns have selective reading skills...my point is, and always has been, why all the hate for a 20 year old guilty of nothing but playing at a level that moved her into the top 8. Sure she still has to learn to beat the top players, but so does every FUTURE SLAM CONTENDER! If not they'd be called champions, not contenders!! Those aren't excuses Pea Brains, those are facts, and facts that don't make me and many others take her off our up and comer list..along with Halep, Benic, Muggy, Keys and others!

Go ahead and call her over-hyped if she tanked it against a bunch of chumps consistently, and you wouldn't get a peep out of me, but that isn't the case, so you simply come across as haters (which is fine BTW, I was just curious why). If you don't think she isn't ****ed off about this and wanting to improve then you've simply never watched her compete. So I'll ask again, if she wins a slam in the next few years will you all be big enough to admit you were wrong, because if she doesn't I will!

 

[Vanhool]

Sure she still has to learn to beat the top players, but so does every FUTURE CONTENDER! If not they'd be called champions, not contenders!!

That's what gets me mad. I was watching her play some match second half of this year (on ESPN or TTC) and the announcer referred to her as a "great champion." I almost fell off my chair. The girl has won one piddly little 280 pt tournament and that's it! She had some good slam runs (sometimes due to lucky draws but also making some of her own luck), but that's it. She's bombed out early from many other tournaments this year (I acknowledge she has had some injury part of the year). That's what annoys me: the relentless hype when she hasn't even won anything of significance yet.

I don't hold that against her; why shouldn't she take advantage of her marketable appearance? I do think she did herself a disservice by believing it (much like Stephens, except at least Genie has won a little tournament). And Montreal flying Genie's Army out to throw stuffed animals at her? Embarrassing.

However, I don't think there's a shame in her losses at YEC...it's the top 8 players ffs, and someone was bound to get clowned. My stance has been that this cake is not fully baked and people should quit opening the oven door every two minutes and pronouncing how good it's going to be. I think it's safe to say she won't be a GOAT, or she would have won a slam by now or at least some premier mandatories, but beyond that, ??? She could win several slams or be a Kournikova. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. I am not a naysayer, I think she is talented, but I do think she is overhyped, and it annoys me sometimes. Maybe she will live up to it, maybe she won't.

 

[The_Mental_Giant]

The most beautiful and angelic looking girl out of the WTA losing to the ugliest one, truly heartbreaker.

 

[HRB]

That's what gets me mad. I was watching her play some match second half of this year (on ESPN or TTC) and the announcer referred to her as a "great champion." I almost fell off my chair. The girl has won one piddly little 280 pt tournament and that's it! She had some good slam runs (sometimes due to lucky draws but also making some of her own luck), but that's it. She's bombed out early from many other tournaments this year (I acknowledge she has had some injury part of the year). That's what annoys me: the relentless hype when she hasn't even won anything of significance yet.

I don't hold that against her; why shouldn't she take advantage of her marketable appearance? I do think she did herself a disservice by believing it (much like Stephens, except at least Genie has won a little tournament). And Montreal flying Genie's Army out to throw stuffed animals at her? Embarrassing.

However, I don't think there's a shame in her losses at YEC...it's the top 8 players ffs, and someone was bound to get clowned. My stance has been that this cake is not fully baked and people should quit opening the oven door every two minutes and pronouncing how good it's going to be. I think it's safe to say she won't be a GOAT, or she would have won a slam by now or at least some premier mandatories, but beyond that, ??? She could win several slams or be a Kournikova. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. I am not a naysayer, I think she is talented, but I do think she is overhyped, and it annoys me sometimes. Maybe she will live up to it, maybe she won't.

Gee..very fair, well thought out, and non biased? You must be new to these parts!:twisted:

 

[SLD76]

That's what gets me mad. I was watching her play some match second half of this year (on ESPN or TTC) and the announcer referred to her as a "great champion." I almost fell off my chair. The girl has won one piddly little 280 pt tournament and that's it! She had some good slam runs (sometimes due to lucky draws but also making some of her own luck), but that's it. She's bombed out early from many other tournaments this year (I acknowledge she has had some injury part of the year). That's what annoys me: the relentless hype when she hasn't even won anything of significance yet.

I don't hold that against her; why shouldn't she take advantage of her marketable appearance? I do think she did herself a disservice by believing it (much like Stephens, except at least Genie has won a little tournament). And Montreal flying Genie's Army out to throw stuffed animals at her? Embarrassing.

However, I don't think there's a shame in her losses at YEC...it's the top 8 players ffs, and someone was bound to get clowned. My stance has been that this cake is not fully baked and people should quit opening the oven door every two minutes and pronouncing how good it's going to be. I think it's safe to say she won't be a GOAT, or she would have won a slam by now or at least some premier mandatories, but beyond that, ??? She could win several slams or be a Kournikova. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. I am not a naysayer, I think she is talented, but I do think she is overhyped, and it annoys me sometimes. Maybe she will live up to it, maybe she won't.

ETA: I attributed this post to HRB . Sorry for that


I must say I am in agreement with your assessment. Someone who is buying into their own hype should be embarrassed. By being clowned by every top player she faced.

 

[Vanhool]

...........

 

[AngieB]

The expectations for the Canadian were too high. Finally, a young player from North America was consistently getting to the semifinals of grand slam events and the intense pressure was clearly too much for the girl. Such a shame because she is what the sponsors are looking for to attract fans to the sport.

Well, let's just hope that she can get a win down Major Highway one day once she gets settled into her head.

#PTL

AngieB

 

[SLD76]

But Bouchard proved she was the real deal too by making a F and two SF's of a slam at age 20. She did better than Halep at the slams and defeated Halep at Wiimbledon.

What was Halep's record vs the other seven women going into the WTA Finals? Not good for sure. I think the only women out of the seven that Halep had a winning record against going into the WTA Finals was Kvitova? I am too lazy to look it up to confirm.

Be consistent at least. Both of these women need to regroup, maybe get new coaches and assess their futures.

Wow..so you are gonna just conveniently forget that Halep rolled her ankle during their Wimbledon match? Really? How about the fact that she played sharapova tougher at the FO than Bouchard? You are truly drinking the Bouchard Kool aid and you are usually one of the most unbiased posters here

How about the fact that Halep beat Serena..and badly at that during the tour finals and made it past RR stage. Halep was a house of fire last year and made good on thst promise this year.

why does Halep need a new coach when she has made a slam final and a slam semi and was runner up in the tour finals, destroying many top pla5ywrs along the way?

Really?

I hate to say it but. .you are full of it with this post.

 

[staceyliving]

cc0509 really hates Halep with a passion. Halep must have kicked his puppies one day.

I didn't know about commentators calling Bouchard a "great champion". Truly a riot. I would still be splitting my side laughing had I heard it live. Probably commentators who once called Kournikova a great champion too.

I will mildly defend Bouchard's epic flop here though. Even Nadal has had a couple tournaments like this in the YEC, and if he can do it, she who will never be 5% as great a player as he is can be allowed it once anyway. Maybe like Nadal indoors is her worst surface. I am not even familiar enough with her yet to know what her better or worse surfaces are TBH.

 

[cc0509]

SLD76;8821023Wow..so you are gonna just conveniently forget that Halep rolled her ankle during their Wimbledon match?

Oh come on! Now you sound like a Nadal fan. She was fine during that match vs Bouchard and Bouchard beat her. No excuses.

Really? How about the fact that she played sharapova tougher at the FO than Bouchard? You are truly drinking the Bouchard Kool aid and you are usually one of the most unbiased posters here

I am not drinking any Kool Aid. I have no idea what is going to happen with Bouchard in the future and she could flop but the reality is she did better at the slams this year than Halep did. You can make excuses and try and dress it up however you like, but that is what happened. You also said that Bouchard had a poor h2h vs the other seven women before entering the WTA Finals and I responded by saying Halep also had a very poor record vs the other seven women prior the WTA Finals. What excuses do you have for that?

How about the fact that Halep beat Serena..and badly at that during the tour finals and made it past RR stage. Halep was a house of fire last year and made good on thst promise this year.

Yep, Halep did very well to beat Serena in that first RR match but unfortunately what will be remembered now is what Serena did to Halep in the revenge match in order to win the tournament.

why does Halep need a new coach when she has made a slam final and a slam semi and was runner up in the tour finals, destroying many top pla5ywrs along the way?

Really?

I read it on Twitter from one of the tennis journalists that Halep said she will consider her future and her coaching options. Actually here it is:

"Simona says she has to make some decisions about her future, coach etc, but after her holidays. "I'll do as I feel, as always"#WTAFinals

https://twitter.com/LumiPaul/status/526371416375951360

 

[SLD76]

Oh come on! Now you sound like a Nadal fan. She was fine during that match vs Bouchard and Bouchard beat her. No excuses.



I am not drinking any Kool Aid. I have no idea what is going to happen with Bouchard in the future and she could flop but the reality is she did better at the slams this year than Halep did. You can make excuses and try and dress it up however you like, but that is what happened. You also said that Bouchard had a poor h2h vs the other seven women before entering the WTA Finals and I responded by saying Halep also had a very poor record vs the other seven women prior the WTA Finals. What excuses do you have for that?



Yep, Halep did very well to beat Serena in that first RR match but unfortunately what will be remembered now is what Serena did to Halep in the revenge match in order to win the tournament.




I read it on Twitter from one of the tennis journalists that Halep said she will consider her future and her coaching options.

Gtfoh. Unlike Nadal it was obvious Halep had rolled her ankle and her movement was diminished aftwerward. You've lost your mind for bouchard.

I don't need an excuse for Halep. She showed up and made the tour finals while Bouchard bombed out in flames.

If Halep wants to change coaches fine, but it won't be because she is flopping and failing. If she feels she needs a new coach to reach the next level good on her. But you made it seem like Halep needed to make a change because of a lack of results which is nonsense.

Again, it's obvious you are biased for bouchard

 

[cc0509]

Gtfoh. Unlike Nadal it was obvious Halep had rolled her ankle and her movement was diminished aftwerward. You've lost your mind for bouchard.

I don't need an excuse for Halep. She showed up and made the tour finals while Bouchard bombed out in flames.

If Halep wants to change coaches fine, but it won't be because she is flopping and failing. If she feels she needs a new coach to reach the next level good on her. But you made it seem like Halep needed to make a change because of a lack of results which is nonsense.

Again, it's obvious you are biased for bouchard

Buy you are not biased towards Halep? In all seriousness, I really don't care much one way or the other for Bouchard but her results in the slams this year speak for themselves, don't you think? Why are you trying to ignore her results in the slams?

As for Halep being injured during that W Bouchard match, she seemed perfectly fine to me. You take to the court , you play. If you sustain an injury and can't play you retire. She did not do that and she seemed fine. Bouchard beat her. That is the result in the record books.

I think Halep does need a new coach to reach the next level. She is losing to too many of the better players such as Sharapova, Serena, etc. in too many big matches/finals. I doubt she will ever beat Serena again in a big final.

 

[SLD76]

Buy you are not biased towards Halep? In all seriousness, I really don't care much one way or the other for Bouchard but her results in the slams this year speak for themselves, don't you think? Why are you trying to ignore her results in the slams?

As for Halep being injured during that W Bouchard match, she seemed perfectly fine to me. You take to the court , you play. If you sustain an injury and can't play you retire. She did not do that and she seemed fine. Bouchard beat her. That is the result in the record books.

I think Halep does need a new coach to reach the next level. She is losing to too many of the better players such as Sharapova, Serena, etc. in too many big matches/finals. I doubt she will ever beat Serena again in a big final.

And Nadal beat nishikori in madrid, same as bouchard beat Halep at wimbledon.

Halep made a slam final and a tour final. As far as I am concerned she had just as good a year if not better than Bouchard. I'm not biased for Halep but what you are saying is nonsense. And the fact remains that against the top competition bouchard got blown out of the water in the tour finals.

Halep may not have the best record against top players but at least she shows signs of reversal.

 

[staceyliving]

I doubt she will ever beat Serena again in a big final.

Maybe so, but I would favor Serena even at age 40 over Bouchard in a major final. If forced to bet money you would too, even if you wont admit it here.

 

[cc0509]

And Nadal beat nishikori in madrid, same as bouchard beat Halep at wimbledon.

Halep made a slam final and a tour final. As far as I am concerned she had just as good a year if not better than Bouchard. I'm not biased for Halep but what you are saying is nonsense. And the fact remains that against the top competition bouchard got blown out of the water in the tour finals.

Halep may not have the best record against top players but at least she shows signs of reversal.

Yep. Nadal deserved the win just as Bouchard deserved her win but there is no way Halep was as injured in her match vs Bouchard as Nishikori the walking injury was vs Nadal in Madrid.

Halep has not had a better year than Bouchard. She had a better ending to the year at one tournament than Bouchard did but Bouchard was more consistent at the slams. Why are you having a hard time admitting this fact?
I agree with you that Bouchard has done very poorly since Wimbledon and she needs to regroup big time but her year was a success overall and she did better than Halep did up until the end of the year.

Re Halep's record vs the better players I am not sure how she is showing signs of reversal when she still lost a big final to Serena and failed to win a tournament yet again. I don't see what weapons she has vs some of the top ten players. She needs to make changes to her game. To me it looks like Wozniacki has made the most changes to her game out of all of the top ten women.

 

[SLD76]

Yep. Nadal deserved the win just as Bouchard deserved her win but there is no way Halep was as injured in her match vs Bouchard as Nishikori the walking injury was vs Nadal in Madrid.

Halep has not had a better year than Bouchard. She had a better ending to the year at one tournament than Bouchard did but Bouchard was more consistent at the slams. Why are you having a hard time admitting this fact?
I agree with you that Bouchard has done very poorly since Wimbledon and she needs to regroup big time but her year was a success overall and she did better than Halep did up until the end of the year.

Re Halep's record vs the better players I am not sure how she is showing signs of reversal when she still lost a big final to Serena and failed to win a tournament yet again. I don't see what weapons she has vs some of the top ten players. She needs to make changes to her game. To me it looks like Wozniacki has made the most changes to her game out of all of the top ten women.

Halep made a slam final and a slam semi and a tour final.
Bouchard made 3 semis

As I said in my book their seasons were pretty even but I give Halep the slight edge for showing up against the top competition.

And Halep was more competitive in her slam final unlike bouchard who got demolished by Kvitova

So why do you keep insisting that Bouchard was head and shoulders above Halep in the biggest tournaments?

It's almost not worth discussing with you anymore.

Not showing signs of reversal? She made a tour final destroying top players along the way and beat Serena soundly in the RR. She is making better strides than Bouchard who got horse whipped as usual by the top players and didn't get past the RR

 

[Vanhool]

Speaking of Woz, I first started noticing her making changes in Miami 2012 when she surprised Serena with more pop on her serve (and beat her). Last year I saw her coming into the net at Cincy. She has been trying to be more aggressive for a while and it's finally starting to pay off and work for her. I'm very happy for her. People were writing her off, but I didn't. She was still quite young and I thought she had enough talent and time to fix her game and still be relevant. She'll never be an all time great, but she's putting herself back in the conversation of contender for titles, so congrats to her.

 

[cc0509]

SLD76;8821126Halep made a slam final and a slam semi and a tour final

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Halep made a QF, SF, F and 3R in the slams.

Bouchard made 3 semis

No she didn't. She made 2 SFs, a F and 4R at the slams. Hence Bouchard did better at the slams than Halep.

As I said in my book their seasons were pretty even but I give Halep the slight edge for showing up against the top competition.

Halep definitely has done better than Bouchard at the end of the year and obviously at the WTA Finals vs the other seven.

And Halep was more competitive in her slam final unlike bouchard who got demolished by Kvitova

That is true but it hardly matters when neither won the slam title so they are really in the same boat.

So why do you keep insisting that Bouchard was head and shoulders above Halep in the biggest tournaments?

I don't think Bouchard was head and shoulders about Halep at the slams but she did do better than Halep.

Not showing signs of reversal? She made a tour final destroying top players along the way and beat Serena soundly in the RR.

Where she was soundly thrashed by Serena in the final and did not win the event. I don't see the reversal. If she can go on next year and win a final vs one of the best players in a Masters 1000 and or slam then I will say she has made a big reversal.

She is making better strides than Bouchard who got horse whipped as usual by the top players and didn't get past the RR

Again, yes Halep did much better than Bouchard at the end of the year but I am not sure we can say Halep has made better strides overall since she did not go on and win the title. We will have to wait until 2015 to see where they are both at and what kind of results they will have. I don't really care much about either as there are many other players I like a lot more than both of them.

 

[cc0509]

Speaking of Woz, I first started noticing her making changes in Miami 2012 when she surprised Serena with more pop on her serve (and beat her). Last year I saw her coming into the net at Cincy. She has been trying to be more aggressive for a while and it's finally starting to pay off and work for her. I'm very happy for her. People were writing her off, but I didn't. She was still quite young and I thought she had enough talent and time to fix her game and still be relevant. She'll never be an all time great, but she's putting herself back in the conversation of contender for titles, so congrats to her.

Yes. Plus she is always a great competitor and very professional on court and off.

 

[Man of steel]

Halep had a better year than bouchard. The points race doesn't lie.
Bouchard nearly has 10 first round losses on the Wta Tour. The only place she did well was the slams but on tour she was abymal. Losing left,right and centre.

 

[Vanhool]

Halep had a better year than bouchard. The points race doesn't lie.
Bouchard nearly has 10 first round losses on the Wta Tour. The only place she did well was the slams but on tour she was abymal. Losing left,right and centre.

Points race can definitely lie. Any way in hell you think Serena wasn't the best player of 2012? But the other stuff, yeah...

 

[Man of steel]

Points race can definitely lie. Any way in hell you think Serena wasn't the best player of 2012? But the other stuff, yeah...

In those cases winning 2 GS+OG+Yec and a couple other titles i don't know how she wasn't no1. I think the fact that she completely missed the asian swing that year didn't help