So very sorry friend. You sat down and watched this?Saw most of the second set.. it was painful to watch
Ouch. I am sure Billie jean king and whoever wta is (willie tean a-ing?) are both cringing a painful cringe.The losing team of Chan and Niculescu earned £200,000 for their 0-6, 0-6 effort ...
Hail WTA, Hail BJK !!!
So what when Nadal bagels Fed in RG final, or Fed bagels Djokovic in the Cinci final ?Women don't deserve equal pay for a low class product.
Easy. Get paid per minute out on court. Nadal would be rich asfSo what when Nadal bagels Fed in RG final, or Fed bagels Djokovic in the Cinci final ?
Tennis Intelligence Unit?I wonder if the so-called Tennis Intelligence Unit will deign to have a look at the betting patterns for this one.
Very odd, considering how it's so much harder to break in doubles. I'm thinking some match fixing was at fault.
Its called equal pay for equal work,,which is not the case,obviously.
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It was. Started fairly late but finished quickly.Saw the scoreline for that one, must have been painful to watch.
Yes. RF once doublebageled gasto gaudio at the year end atp masters cup in houston. It was unusual. Just a rr match. Comprehensive beating. No outrage here, nor there.Federer double bageled del Portro, the 9th seed, after the first set in the Australian Open a few years ago. You'll be hard press to find the same level of outrage.
The contempt for women here is at Norman Bates level.
There are rational people in favor of equal pay. I do not think rational people would disagree with your accurate, factual assessment of the lower level of play as compared to men's tennis.Women don't deserve equal pay for a low class product. Clisjters and Navrat played a couple of local open guys here, and lost to both, although neither had any atp points at all. They were number one at the times they played. Tsurenko, the guy who has a house in sacto, is #700 world ranked. Serena would not win a game against him period nor would venus or any other woman, and they don't play 3-5 so only pc morons argue for equal pay.
Yeah, correct. Problem is, i do NOT want to see MOAR women's tennis. Who does? 2 out of 3 is fine! Long 3 out of five set wta matches is not what most people want. I am tired of that argument.Its called equal pay for equal work,,which is not the case,obviously.
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Niculesco is Junk baller, that is what Junk ballers get sometimes,,, BAGELED.....................LOLThe losing team of Chan and Niculescu earned £200,000 for their 0-6, 0-6 effort ...
Hail WTA, Hail BJK !!!
Haha, such a junkballer, niculescu loves that slice forehand! Hmmm, we will have to come up with a fitting moniker for uhmmm...Monica.Niculesco is Junk baller, that is what Junk ballers get sometimes,,, BAGELED.....................LOL
Having said that though I think Slice Forehand is a good shot to mix in during long rallies in Singles court play. I seen this work like a charm even in 4.5 level USTA singles match. Guys love ripping that big topspin forehands crosscourt and have a decent rallie. They usually try to be macho and see who can rip a bigger forehand,,,,,,if you mix in a Hard slice forehand in the middle of the rallie,,,it usually produces a Misshit shot that lands short............. then you move in for the kill...Haha, such a junkballer, niculescu loves that slice forehand! Hmmm, we will have to come up with a fitting moniker for uhmmm...Monica.
Dare i say...
Slice FH compliment?
is she really using that OLD pure strike ?? That racket really stinks.Even Larry cringed at the score!
The women use smaller, faster balls and use juiced radar guns. Why is that? The top women average more than 1000rpm less than men do, even with the smaller, faster balls. Why is that? They are weaker, slower, and use the wta style of tech., all of which is inferior to the atp style and reality. Why aren't the women taught the same tech as the men are? Because they can't do it? No.Yes. RF once doublebageled gasto gaudio at the year end atp masters cup in houston. It was unusual. Just a rr match. Comprehensive beating. No outrage here, nor there.
There are rational people in favor of equal pay. I do not think rational people would disagree with your accurate, factual assessment of the lower level of play as compared to men's tennis.
The thing they hang their hat on is value. These are not pc morons. They are correct about the wta's Entertainment value. They are right about Subjective thngs like interest, drama, story, tension, and overall product. Maybe Approximations of gate receipts? These are generally hard to prove though, so chauvinists get all norman bates up in here.
Admittedly, I personally would not pay as much to see top women's tennis as i would for ncaa men's tennis or the qualies of an atp challenger. But as much as i believe men's tennis partially does fund women's tennis...and i wish they paid journeymen a lot better than they did when i was out there trying (sadly, marginally greater prize money now compared to the early 90s...weak!)...
There's no question, tennis is a better product when both genders compete. At the same venue -- even better. I think this is where the women really earn their keep. Again, a little subjective here, but...Overall value, big picture. Family interest. Hollywood q ratings. The PC morons, and the smart free market types alike can all agree, tennis is better when it is bigger in profile. Inclusion works. This is what BJK got right. And women's tennis is a part of that, at all levels. Women's tennis -- I don't watch it a ton, but it is a good thing!
Now, if some sports marketers empirically analyzed gate receipts in a free market way, we could put an end to this fruitless discussion. i would be curious to see the results of that study! But i do not think a study like this would be very popular, if the results were damaging to the cause of equal pay.
Equal pay....hmmm.....
Yeah, correct. Problem is, i do NOT want to see MOAR women's tennis. Who does? 2 out of 3 is fine! Long 3 out of five set wta matches is not what most people want. I am tired of that argument.
Otoh...
Tennis is so physical now, I would welcome the idea of two out of three in all matches, and 3 out of five in davis cup and in the qtrs, semis an finals of slams for men. Maybe the finals of the atp 1000s and yr end atp wtf in London.
Summary:
Love both tours.
Pay fair.
Not more tennis. Quality is what we love. Not quantity. Health of the players and health of the game.
Pay a bit more for futures and challengers.
is she really using that OLD pure strike ?? That racket really stinks.
Here is some footage from the match:
Vesnina stopped using that old pure strike a long, long time ago and uses the updated cosmetics.
so she is using the NEW pure strike. that is a good racketHere is some footage from the match:
Vesnina stopped using that old pure strike a long, long time ago and uses the updated cosmetics.
Epic levels of LSD detected in this post And also... butterfly alien invasionThe women use smaller, faster balls and use juiced radar guns. Why is that? The top women average more than 1000rpm less than men do, even with the smaller, faster balls. Why is that? They are weaker, slower, and use the wta style of tech., all of which is inferior to the atp style and reality. Why aren't the women taught the same tech as the men are? Because they can't do it? No.
yes. All true. Even the women's tennis lobbyists will agree. But .... missing the point. BJK, Martina, Ted Tinling, and the very intelligent and opportunistic suits behind the WTA and virginia slims circuit.... they built this thing in the early seventies to be the first women's sport that makes big money, and awards real prize money all year round.The women use smaller, faster balls and use juiced radar guns. Why is that? The top women average more than 1000rpm less than men do, even with the smaller, faster balls. Why is that? They are weaker, slower, and use the wta style of tech., all of which is inferior to the atp style and reality. Why aren't the women taught the same tech as the men are? Because they can't do it? No.
And if the women played a long 5 setter everyone on here would be ******** about how they play too long.
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